AOC doesn’t need to condemn anyone
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
Also it is sort of comical that his immediate reply to her correcting his misleading tweet about tax rates was to say “hey look, some people who aren’t you were mean to me”
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
They're all Russians anyway.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
yeah fair i shoulda said "lib"
xxposts
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link
I think a big reason why @AOC is so much better at politics than so many older, more experienced Dems is that she's never known a world where Republicans aren't cartoonish villains who reliably act in bad faith. So she treats them as what they are.— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) January 6, 2019
― resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link
Not getting a ton of attention today, but IMO Julian Castro's answer to a question about @AOC's tax talk was striking. "George, there was a time in this country where the top marginal tax rate was over 90 percent."and *woosh* goes the Overton Window. pic.twitter.com/OsTd1T3RAq— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 6, 2019
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 6 January 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link
he's running
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 6 January 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link
Ok this Paygo stuff - its really just AOC and Ro Khanna against it, thats it? I read the thing that says oh it doesnt actually matter but idk - is there a more positive slant to this I'm not seeing?
― anvil, Sunday, 6 January 2019 23:30 (five years ago) link
Omar is also against.
― suzy, Monday, 7 January 2019 00:15 (five years ago) link
Haven't watched the AOC interview on 60 Minutes in full but this clip popped up on Twitter:
.@AOC says Trump is a racist, “no question.” pic.twitter.com/CSQnmCVJi2— jordan (@JordanUhl) January 7, 2019
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 7 January 2019 03:14 (five years ago) link
Paygo is intended to undercut Republicans ability/threats to cut taxes. No Dem legislation was hampered by it when it was in effect previously. The argument seems to be about the symbolism of it.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 7 January 2019 03:49 (five years ago) link
I was about to post the AOC clip. She doesn't flinch.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 January 2019 03:57 (five years ago) link
Any one who panders to racists as much as Trump does, counts as a racist. No question.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 7 January 2019 03:57 (five years ago) link
She’s incredible. When she won I was excited based on her platform and background, but I didn’t expect her to be this good of a communicator right out of the gate.
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 7 January 2019 04:08 (five years ago) link
On any given night you can see a CNN panel starting with this premise, yet here it's received as if AOC questioned whether jet fuel can melt steel beams. TV news is weird. https://t.co/p9vTpawV9c— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 7, 2019
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 7 January 2019 04:17 (five years ago) link
Trump tweeted this once
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 7 January 2019 04:19 (five years ago) link
He led the birth certificate thing AND the college transcript thing for several years. Of course he’s racist. jfc
― Karl Malone, Monday, 7 January 2019 04:47 (five years ago) link
Not to mention the fucking Central Park Five.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 7 January 2019 04:58 (five years ago) link
It was exasperating if anyone expressed doubt about it during the campaign
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 7 January 2019 05:21 (five years ago) link
as long as we're posting clips
“There's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right,” @AOC says in response to criticism that she’s made factual errors. https://t.co/sKf3sHl9F6 pic.twitter.com/xKc2eB7GEk— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) January 7, 2019
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 7 January 2019 05:45 (five years ago) link
just to add to the list that I'm sure everyone here knows, he lost and had to settle housing discrimination lawsuits
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Monday, 7 January 2019 05:57 (five years ago) link
anyone who is as racist as the frothing, shrieking racist Donald Trump counts as a racist. what was the question
― sans lep (sic), Monday, 7 January 2019 06:11 (five years ago) link
Then there was that meeting where he talked about not wanting to accept immigrants from shithole countries in Africa, but immigration from Norway was fine and dandy with him.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 7 January 2019 06:22 (five years ago) link
do we not already have a "100+ racist things trump did/said" thread
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 7 January 2019 06:33 (five years ago) link
Let me list for you the examples which convinced me that water is wet.
― Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 January 2019 06:34 (five years ago) link
Lol @ Biden. Guy who loses in 84, 88 and 2008 is sceptical other Democrats can win in 2020. this hubris of this prick
― anvil, Monday, 7 January 2019 07:48 (five years ago) link
AOC is like a Messi, game changer straight out the gate
― anvil, Monday, 7 January 2019 07:49 (five years ago) link
― suzy,
Thanks Suzy, missed that for some reason!
I'd read this but...idk, I'd like to be convinced its ok and its not something that comes back to bite. You think AOC and Ro (and Omar!) got this one wrong?
― anvil, Monday, 7 January 2019 07:54 (five years ago) link
Biden is pissed that the DNC told him to step aside so Hilary could run in '16.
― nickn, Monday, 7 January 2019 07:54 (five years ago) link
I mean yeah this "70% tax on income over 10m" seems to already be shifting the Overton window which is something Dems have always been really bad at
― frogbs, Monday, 7 January 2019 14:52 (five years ago) link
lol
Paul Krugman’s positive (and correct) article about Ocasio-Cortez’s tax ideas is perplexing. He slammed Bernie Sanders for similar ideas in 2016. pic.twitter.com/KECU6gWwb3— Emma Vigeland (@EmmaVigeland) January 7, 2019
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 7 January 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link
Yeah, that's completely untrue. Read the columns in question: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/opinion/varieties-of-voodoo.html and https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/05/opinion/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-tax-policy-dance.html. He slammed Sanders for idiotic claims about growth. As he said:
Mr. Sanders is calling for a large expansion of the U.S. social safety net, which is something I would like to see, too. But the problem with such a move is that it would probably create many losers as well as winners — a substantial number of Americans, mainly in the upper middle class, who would end up paying more in additional taxes than they would gain in enhanced benefits.
By endorsing outlandish economic claims, the Sanders campaign is basically signaling that it doesn’t believe its program can be sold on the merits, that it has to invoke a growth miracle to minimize the downsides of its vision. It is, in effect, confirming its critics’ worst suspicions.
Basically, AOC is so much better than Sanders, and people should stop trying to use her to make Sanders seem good.
― Frederik B, Monday, 7 January 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link
When yer right, yer right.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 7 January 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link
nobody wants to say this but I have no tact, so: when is someone going to fling a bullet at AOC. this election cycle?
obviously I'm rooting for her hard but I think some form of Kevlar should be in permanent use by now
or am I being too cynical about dear old America
― imago, Monday, 7 January 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link
I will forever be amazed that no one managed to take a shot at Obama during his tenure
― Οὖτις, Monday, 7 January 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
you'd hope she already has shit-hot security
― imago, Monday, 7 January 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
I'm amazed nearly every day no-one has tried to take out Trump yet tbh
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
― imago, Monday, January 7, 2019 10:35 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Nah. It's just that the shots being constantly fired over here seem to rarely have coherently political intent. It's probably more likely that someone will shoot up a Foot Locker because the commies are overtaking us.
― Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link
I don't think she's any more likely to be targeted than any other visible member of congress.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link
Secret Service protection of the president is 100x greater than any security provided to members of the House of Representatives. afaik, representatives have zilch once they step away from the Capitol or their offices, unless they pay for it themselves. Look at Gabrielle Giffords.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link
yeah I don't think they have any security detail at all
― Οὖτις, Monday, 7 January 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link
well, according to Fox News, the AOC dancing "controversy" was a false flag. no conservatives were actually outraged. actually they were laughing about it, about how not-outraged they were. checkmate, libs.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
Dear Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @AOC I ask that you guide my thoughts, my feelings and my perceptions. AMEN pic.twitter.com/ztY0GIuuqb— RuPaul (@RuPaul) January 6, 2019
between this and Cher she really is getting the heavyweight endorsements
― frogbs, Monday, 7 January 2019 22:51 (five years ago) link
btw Ilhan is pretty much just as good
🙄 https://t.co/CzU0blv9kW— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) January 7, 2019
― frogbs, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:02 (five years ago) link
I'd read this but...idk, I'd like to be convinced its ok and its not something that comes back to bite. You think AOC and Ro (and Omar!) got this one wrong?― anvil, Monday, 7 January 2019 07:54 (fifteen hours ago)
IDK does that mean the shit ton of republicans who voted the way they did got it right? From AOC’s perspective and other Dems who voted w her it was a futile vote but meant to maybe signal to leadership “hey we got big progressive legislation planned don’t try take a side against it”.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link
The republicans had different reasons for voting against this bill.
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:42 (five years ago) link
Also i really hope aoc has a secret service detail. I think they know she has more enemies than other members of congress and adjust accordingly, as I expect they also do with pelosi et al. However, who knows?
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link
she does not
we went over this
― Οὖτις, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:50 (five years ago) link
Pelosi does because she's in the line of succession for the presidency
― Οὖτις, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:51 (five years ago) link
AOC does not have any kind of Secret Service detail. That's not how it works.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 7 January 2019 23:51 (five years ago) link