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Oh, I don’t agree with Josh - there was an Xpost in there

IME Marie Kondo helps people create an environment in which they “unstick” themselves from various life issues by way of examining their physical possessions. It’s a kind of self-directed occupational therapy, I think.

There might be something more to the show or her philosophy, but again, literally, before and after: trash and then no trash. And everyone was in awe of her witchcraft.

there's definitely something to her philosophy beyond surface level improvements, it also extends to facing a bit of the psychological unease from clutter and dealing with it, clutter both seen and unseen. i'm at present on a months-long project of cutting out extraneous shit from our house, and it's reached the point of being aware of what little is left and how objects we own not having a place to go can be a little annoying at best, anxiety inducing at worst. this project was kind of spurred on by the full-on disaster my FIL is dealing with at 88, having never thrown anything away for the past decade-plus and refusing to part with expired grocery store coupons and what not.

speaking of that issue, this show is not a full on cautionary tale like Hoarders, which is a bit more rubbernecky albeit fascinating, but she gets at certain issues that i think everyone faces.

I hate clutter and am constantly cleaning up after myself and others. A tidy house is definitely more chill. But even I came to the realization long ago that if things are getting messy just, you know, put shit away! Takes like 10 minutes.

This scans like parody, too:
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/on-and-off-the-avenue/the-marie-kondo-effect-reaches-beacons-closet

it's not just about putting things away it's about throwing things away instead of just constant accumulation

maybe don't buy so much garbage in the first place, did she ever think of that

I have said this before but I am constantly telling my mom she is a bad buddhist because she won't toss anything. "You are not taking this stuff with you when you die/get reincarnated!" I didn't read the book but isn't it kind of basic japanese mindfulness, living in smaller spaces and being considerate of your surroundings? All the places I have stayed in japan were very purposeful and organized even when there were 3 young children.

it's not just about individual choices but about the culture you live in too. almost every birthday party my kids get invited to they get some little plastic bag full of cheap plastic toys and stickers and crap as a gift bag to be potentially spread out over the house. you have to be constantly vigilant.

There's a moment in the next-to-last episode where an expectant father culls his sneaker collection from just south of two hundred boxes to about forty. That's not interesting on its own, until he off-handedly mentions having racked up 10K debt to buy the shoes over the last decade. Which –– yikes. But as the father's unboxing the shoes on Kondo's instructions, he discovers that some of the pairs are unworn, sealed, and destroyed by age. And it clearly upsets him. Later the context of some family photos, he reveals that he grew up low-income in a working immigrant family. As he goes through the boxes, I think he internalizes the way in which these possessions (which he didn't wear, didn't want to wear, and bought semi-compulsively) helped him feel insulated in a social class different and preferable to the one in which he was raised. When he purges himself of ten dozen shoes, I think he's breaking through his class baggage.

that's OTM, i don't know about you but every single day i find one of those little mini animal erasers lying around the house. xp

Some of my friends think I am crazy because I will deliberate for weeks over buying anything non-consumable no matter if it's only $5 or something. I have to envision how I will use it where I will put it, do I have something like it already, do I think I will toss it the next time I move. It drives me crazy when I go over to a friends' house and they have such nice or expensive things and they keep wanting more but it's so cluttered and dusty that it's like, what's the point.

every time i take the kid to Trader Joe's they ask him, "hey you want some stickers??" and of course he says yes and later i have to surreptitiously toss them in the bin.

she would have a field day with the number of books and LPs in this house. I'm trying, Marie!

lol omar we share the same problems

I am down to 2 white cubes of books and 3 of LPs.

put the stickers on things, don't toss them

or give them to a children's hospital?

This is kind of shady but a couple of years ago we got these super cool metallic kiddie tattoos for my nieces for us to do for when i visited. They totally ended up strewn about on the floor. Like the third time we picked them up my spouse was so annoyed he just kept them. I still have a couple that I break out on occasion.

yeah for sure. it's not nearly as confrontational or as dark as Hoarders, and she's like a magic elf woman who comes in and inspires people Jiminy Cricket-style to like get over the physical/mental baggage

everyone sold me on You and it might be the “cringe and yell noooooo” show i have been looking for

I'm on epi 6 or 7 of You. Even all of the living in NY details are so bonkers.

I've only dipped into the Kondo book, but it has some unusual stories about how when she was a girl at school she would daydream about what she would throw out when she got home, the way most people would daydream about something new they wanted to buy. Not sure if she was being entirely serious.

She’s Shinto-adjacent, so I kind of think... she might be?

i'd be more interested in someone that went round very tidy houses and helped ppl work through their issues with control

Have any UK/Ireland posters been watching Sunderland 'Til I Die?

can the lady on you pls just get one (1) set of curtains

I want to see a show where people sneak into the homes of neat freaks and mess things up, then wait for their reaction.

My neighbor is nice but is also a self-professed neat freak. I have seen him sweeping the street before. Like, literally in the street, sweeping. I once saw him sweeping the trees in his backyard. Yes, the trees. His house always looks like it has been staged for a showing, and his trash bins in the back yard are always parallel and perfectly lined up. He gardens at night with a headlamp on. He would be a great candidate.

Just finished up the third (and presumably final) season of El Chapo. The first two seasons were pretty good, this one was, eh, alright. I mean there probably wasn't a way around this but the second half of the season were just Chapo prison episodes, then Chapo on the run, getting raided, escaping through a tunnel, over and over and over again. The actor who played Chapo looked like he was wearing a pillow under his shirt the last few episodes. Also the American agent who plays the DEA agent was one of the worst actors I've ever seen in a drama like this.

xpost, none of these things your neighbor does seems weird!

I watched the first episode of Tidying Up, and it was all weirdly vague. It didn't seem like they really did much. Also, the family was horrible, it would've been more satisfying if she just burned their house down.

I think they led off with the absolute worst couple to pull you in because the other ones I saw everyone else was fine.

I am a little scared to watch that Marie Kondo show.

One of the things she said in her book is that as a child she would sometime throw out family members' belongings without asking. In the book she says how wrong she now realizes that is. But of course she would say that, wouldn't she.

I am with her. My entire life, whenever something goes missing, 40% of the time it's because I've sneakily gotten rid of it. I am better about it now.

I live with a thrower-outer and let me tell you it's a struggle

I can’t think of a single thing I’ve thrown out that I (really) regret. But SO much of what I keep is ... totally useless.

well this doesn't look great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdAR-lK43YU

I watched the first episode of Tidying Up, and it was all weirdly vague. It didn't seem like they really did much. Also, the family was horrible, it would've been more satisfying if she just burned their house down.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles),

ok, this is my favourite post of all time.

xpost lol I had the opposite reaction. Killer art + Jake Gyllenhaal doing a goofy voice is exactly the kind of trash I live for.

i could do with a smart, pulpy/trashy sendup of the art world, why do the paintings have to come alive :/

The thing that gets me about this Tidying Up show is that their house was not horrifically cluttered, just kind of normal cluttered, yet even with the help of poor Marie Kondo, who had to smile through all of their entitled bullshit, it still took weeks for them to fold up a bunch of clothes and organize their kitchen drawers. I don't see how this couldn't get done over the course of a weekend.

the spoiler-averse should probably avoid that trailer, sheesh xps

Seriously. I was intrigued but regret watching it.

xpost That's what I'm saying! These aren't hoarders with piles of newspapers, these are just people who need to clean their fucking rooms, like little kids.

OTOH, I'm intrigued by the glimpses we get of her methods, but also frustrated that they don't go into more detail. It just feels like a teaser for the book rather than a something meant to stand on it's own and educate.

I am not a fan of her vertical envelope folding except for underwear. I basically fold everything like I live in a boutique.

It is nice to be able to see the edges of every shirt in the drawer, but I don't think it actually saves any space or anything.

none of these things your neighbor does seems weird!

counterpoint: most of those things are pretty weird but also extremely sweet

Also everyone should have a headlamp. They are so great. I have two. One to carry in my purse/bag at all times and one for the house.

rolling>>>>>folding

agreed a headlamp is a good thing

do you anticipate delivering a baby during a power outage idgi