Are we living in a simulation?

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that's true joan. the idea of the simulation question is interesting to me basically for that reason--this is really about metaphysics not technology

Trϵϵship, Monday, 14 January 2019 12:25 (five years ago) link

fuck washing a virtual toilet then

rip van wanko, Monday, 14 January 2019 12:27 (five years ago) link

actually a very interesting and good q imo which occupies not-non-adjacent ethical space with "how would you live differently if you knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that a divine Being existed"

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 14 January 2019 12:20 (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do i know what they want?

topical mlady (darraghmac), Monday, 14 January 2019 12:48 (five years ago) link

Microsoft Fight or Flight Simulator

A Nugatory Excrescence (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 January 2019 12:53 (five years ago) link

Roll the booooones
Roll the boooones

The night has a thousand saxophones?

MarkoP, Monday, 14 January 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link

voted no

the real nature of the Universe is kooky enough as is without having to invent this stupid backstory

zwei dunkel jungen (crüt), Monday, 14 January 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link

If we live in a simulation, it’s less “overlord pushing buttons and changing settings to see what happens in a controlled environment”, and more me repeatedly reloading a Civ game I saved way too late to untuck my bad decisions.

gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link

unfuck ffs

gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link

I agree with Louis. There is too much in our culture that pushes against the experience of awe.

Ftr i do not agree with the simulation hypothesis, but I like that it is getting people to face the fact that we don’t really understand the nature of the universe.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 14 January 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link

is there even an r/awe?

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 January 2019 15:07 (five years ago) link

I don’t use reddit

Trϵϵship, Monday, 14 January 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

Nor twitter. I’m ilx all the way

Trϵϵship, Monday, 14 January 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link

of all the irrelevant hypotheticals to consider, this is one of the least interesting

ogmor, Monday, 14 January 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

There’s an option for you on the poll!

Trϵϵship, Monday, 14 January 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link

I appreciate your open-mindedness on this matter

ogmor, Monday, 14 January 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link

one reason treesh is a good messageboard poster because even when people vehemently disagree with the entire concept of the thread, they still contribute something

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 January 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

(sorry for tangent, going to repost that in the appropriate space)

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 January 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link

To the extent that the subjective impact of reality remains unchanged, I'm fairly blasé re: the possibility of actually being somebody's GTA avatar.

A Nugatory Excrescence (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 January 2019 15:34 (five years ago) link

what if you are bill simmons' son's fortnite avatar though

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 January 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link

no

flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link

i kinda think we do tbph. idk if it's a material simulation or a metaphysical simulation but in either case

Mordy, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

but is it a collective simulation, or are we each in our own individual simulation and you are all just my sims

rip van wanko, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:02 (five years ago) link

1 0 0 1 0 0 1
S.O.S.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:03 (five years ago) link

I definitely do not believe in solipsism. There are other minds in the simulation, if it’s a simulation.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link

It's like the Truman Show except when you finally wise up and sail your boat to the edge of the world you find that there's no exit, sucks 2 b u.

A Nugatory Excrescence (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link

We're living in something or other. It's going to be really weird no matter what. My guess is that our metaphors (dream, computer simulation) are too crude to be useful.

jmm, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link

Or it's like the Matrix except that Morpheus is actually more like Werner Herzog grousing about the perversity of nature and you wind up wishing you could've just stayed jacked in and ignorant.

A Nugatory Excrescence (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

If we're living in a simulation, someone's using pirated software

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link

dude in my sim was i was a carbon based life form on this spheroidal rock called a planet and we used these machines called computers linked in a vast network called the World Wide Web and on it I visited this message board called ILX on it was T✧✧@K✧✧.E✧✧ it was a trip!

rip van wanko, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link

I want to live in the simulation where there is an actual kfc.edu

A Nugatory Excrescence (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

there's only one mind but it's an infinite mind that experiences itself as refracted individuals interacting with one another

Mordy, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link

for more information google panentheism

Mordy, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link

I knew we’d get to Spinoza!

Trϵϵship, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link

i was a panentheist for a little while back in the day

Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link

you only get spatial separation from refraction if we aren't all on the same wavelength, guys!

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link

my point was that optics metaphors are almost always bad. not saying we aren't interpenetrated by god. that sounds right to me.

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:33 (five years ago) link

metaphors: a necessary evil

Mordy, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

I am getting deja vu from this exchange, and everyone knows what that means

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 January 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link

ctl-f Baudrillard

Brad C., Monday, 14 January 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

Furthermore, ideas from information theory keep showing up in physics. “In my research I found this very strange thing,” said James Gates, a theoretical physicist at the University of Maryland. “I was driven to error-correcting codes—they’re what make browsers work. So why were they in the equations I was studying about quarks and electrons and supersymmetry? This brought me to the stark realization that I could no longer say people like Max are crazy.”

as if there's some template for "actual reality, not a simulation" that he can compare our reality to???

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 January 2019 19:02 (five years ago) link

"I know all about Reality-reality...and it shouldn't be ruled by mathematical laws" ???

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 January 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link

Well, historically the fact that the universe was governed by discoverable natural laws was used as evidence that there was a Creator. This is the same argument.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 14 January 2019 19:05 (five years ago) link

All of this is old wine in a new bottle with a trashier label.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 14 January 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

new ship in an old bottle

difficult listening hour, Monday, 14 January 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link

meh sage in a bottle

topical mlady (darraghmac), Monday, 14 January 2019 19:26 (five years ago) link

you could use the fact that the universe is NOT governed by "discoverable natural laws" as evidence that there was a Creator too! "we can't explain why things operate the ways in which they do...clearly there is someone or some thing behind the scenes pulling the strings"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 January 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link

^ tbf, that was the main reason why so many primitive religions projected their deities as being driven by human-like emotions like jealousy, anger or lust.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 14 January 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link

this doesn't really belong here but i wanted to share it somewhere and it kinda does belong here?

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-if-true-this-could-be-one-of-the-greatest-discoveries-in-human-history-1.6828318

Mordy, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link

Wow—have to say, i felt relieved when they said that thing was moving out of our solar system.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

why they making me work this shit job, fucking turtle shit heads

Ste, Saturday, 11 May 2024 17:52 (two weeks ago) link

Did you miss the "break things" part?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 11 May 2024 17:56 (two weeks ago) link

oh yeah, sorry

Ste, Saturday, 11 May 2024 18:53 (two weeks ago) link

It's run by turtles. Who learned to program. Their purpose is to move fast (fast for turtles, that is) and break things.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless)

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i feel that if this were a simulation then that guy that plays maverick in those movies, you know about whom i'm talking, given that his unnamed and therefore unactionable affiliated religious organization's super-duper powers center is trying way hard to prove a point, that guy would have developed the ability to fly like neo and bend the artificial construct that we think of as time and space, and he'd already be telling us all about it. that ain't happened. also i believe keanu reeves of all of us would actually innately have this predisposition to superpowers if such actually existed, but keanu being keanu, he'd think it immodest to show off thusly and so we'll never know. keanu can probably fly irl, but he's just as happy taking a bus, because someone on that bus might need his help like in that one movie where he takes that bus.

idk where i'm going with this but it's more that likely about how we're blessed to live in the era of keanu than about simulation theory.

― slugbuggy

i have good news slugbuggy there is a way to develop the ability to fly like neo

it's called estrogen

(if people are going to call me a social contagion i'm going to fucking _earn_ the title)

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 11 May 2024 19:02 (two weeks ago) link


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