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sock suspenders or gtfo
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 14 January 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link
Generally I wear a hole in the heel of the sock before the elastic goes, so it’s a nonissue for me. xp
― o. nate, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link
Fwiw, my personal OCD cleanup methodology is mostly indistinguishable from Kondo's (though I find the animism of 'saying thank you and goodbye to your shirt' insufferable and the dogma of folding to be overkill) and, after a cursory reading, generally cosign her approach. It's the people she's working with on the shows I watched that I find insufferable: middle class acquisition minded basics lacking aesthetic taste or curiosity, hoping for a magical savior.
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 January 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
yeah, I am aligned with this as well. I don't say thank you to the things I get rid of but I usually have a quick process of acknowledging that the items will exist in another home ( I try to feel out if anyone I know wants it first), that they served their purpose with me and that I don't want to move on with them further/I am no longer a person that needs it. Perhaps it's easier for people in cities where space is limited and moving such a bitch? The couple that wanted a third child almost made me lose my mind with the amount of shit they had in their really lovely house but they pulled it out in the end.
― Yerac, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
It seems like such a generic reality show, from its format to its "casting" but also beat to beat, that some of the more mundane or quotidian strategies or approaches she brings perhaps come off more glaring in their obviousness. I wish the show itself had a bit more style and novelty. Also, my wife hates her wardrobe.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link
(though I find the animism of 'saying thank you and goodbye to your shirt' insufferable and the dogma of folding to be overkill)
my 8 yr old was actually the one who got into the show and i kept putting shirts in the donate bag and she would bring it back and say daddy you forgot to say thank you! and it was so goddamn cute i couldn't stand it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link
She had on a couple of full/bell sleeved blouses that I was really into. I think her wardrobe silhouette is part of her brand. It was actually kind of hard guessing how old she is. I went for early 40s, but I think just based on her clothing and that I knew she had books out awhile ago.
― Yerac, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link
Based on how she dresses I'd say she's around ... 12.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link
I’m down with the folding stuff, it creates more space in the drawers. The “thank you and goodbye” thing is totally okay too, I would imagine that is a cultural thing and I find it interesting in how it recognizes the attachment we have to physical objects but also gives us an out, and a way to break away from them while giving respect to both that attachment and the object.
― omar little, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link
Folding is definitely smart, but on the flip side, well, duh.
I know she only wears white, that is her thing.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:22 (five years ago) link
Lots of people only wear white it’s fine. She’s an adult obviously.
― omar little, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link
xpost that is so funny that you think she dresses young and i think she dresses old for her age.
― Yerac, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link
Granted what she is wearing is pretty basic/conservative/nice and would work for like anyone.
― Yerac, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link
I haven’t watched the Marie Kondo show yet, but I read the book and I don’t think talking to stuff before getting rid of it is something everyone or even most people need to do, but I do think it addresses a psychological hang-up some people have about getting rid of things.I also think her target audience is obviously people who want to get rid of stuff but have trouble doing it on their own. The book -backlash comments I have seen seem to be mostly from people who don’t know what it’s really about but don’t seem to care. I am a pack rat and I think people should for the most part keep what they want to even if other people think it’s garbage let alone books, but I also think it’s good if she is encouraging people to be more mindful about not just what they keep but more importantly what they acquire in the first place, which is the bigger problem.
― MrDasher, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link
as someone who has very few personal possessions but who has spent the majority of the last decade living in cluttered apartments (i lived consecutively with my brother as a roommate, and then my ex, and now my current partner. all of them have lots of stuff, my brother is a borderline hoarder) i hope this show can have a positive effect in the world
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:33 (five years ago) link
It's all kind of captured too with our parents who grew up during/after the depression or who were immigrants or poor and just never, ever threw anything away, because it might be useful one day or the children might want it when they grow up. I've had to tell my parents a thousand times over the years that I do not need or want anything and they need to maintain and enjoy their house for themselves only.
I think having roommates well into adulthood also made me ocd about my living space now that I have full control of it.
― Yerac, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
maybe she should get her own thread. I have not watched, but I do think that for ppl who are specifically annoyed with aspects of the show, "you didn't read the books, clearly" is an annoying response (that I have actually seen online)
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
I do hope that at some point in the series someone flatly refuses to address an inanimate object
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link
there is a marie kondo thread. if people want to take conversation over there
the life-changing magic of tidying up
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
Back to what I said, I think it's the show and its generic format that's the problem. I'd never heard of her before (though my wife had), but clearly this new series is having a relatively big impact, at least as far as introducing (or reintroducing) her and her ideas to people. Yet it's got such a hackneyed familiar vibe to it that it just feels like any other home makeover sort of show, which undersells what she has to offer. It'd be like if I told someone that "Flip or Flop" would change their life, and then they saw it and it's just another reality show. I can imagine this person's ideas working as a self-help book, but seeing it manifested on screen strikes me as faintly ridiculous, like an infomercial or something, or parody of the same.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link
Which is to say, it'd be a bad show, imo, no matter her personality or ideas. Just like something you'd flip around to in a hotel room. As opposed to, say, Salt Fat Acid Eat, which is great, and somehow feels fresh despite being yet another cooking/travel show.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link
I read a great essay recently on how SFAH changes the image of who gets to eat for enjoyment on tv: a woman, moreover a women of color, moreover a not-thin, not domestic woman, and the format of her show is that she really ENJOYS savoring and devouring things.
Oh here it is: https://www.eater.com/2018/10/24/18014782/salt-fat-acid-heat-samin-nosrat-eating-cooking-food-tv-netflix
Sorry if that was already linked here, I forget where I saw things.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 14 January 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link
Huh. I thought that would be about the news (maybe not news?) that Netflix apparently changes the thumbnail/cover/icon of what you might want to watch based on what you have watched before. For example, if you have watched, say, Atlanta with Donald Glover, it might put him in the icon/cover of a movie he's barely in just to catch your eye.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link
Two eps in on Sex Education, and a stoned, blonde Gillian Anderson caressing the words "Man Milk" is the hero we need.
― Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 07:09 (five years ago) link
Yeah, halfway through Sex Education, really enjoying it.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link
It's good, yeah. Close to the platonic ideal of an undemanding Netflix watch
― Number None, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
I did have to look up where it was shot because that house is amazing.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
I want to punch Marie Kondo in the face. (Actually the ones coming up w the show.)Kid and I are watching Atypical. It's fantastic.
― nathom, Sunday, 20 January 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link
(I'm annoyed because of course in Japan, with smaller living spaces, people need to be "tidier" than in the US. Also hell no when it comes to speaking to my clothing.)
― nathom, Sunday, 20 January 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link
I like Marie Kondo. She is very american in her branding though.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:17 (five years ago) link
Yeah, she just wants to spark joy, no need to punch her just because you enjoy wallowing in your own filth.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link
people are really bad these days at just shrugging and thinking “hmm, not for me”everything has got to have a commentary track
― mh, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link
She seems nice, and a bit kooky. not sure what anyone's objection is.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link
you have to like, dislike, or have a convoluted long-winded opinion on things!the best day of my life, which the clickbait industry will never have, was when I realized “it’s fine” and “sure, whatever” are actually the best default positions. life’s too short to weigh in with such emphasis
― mh, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:50 (five years ago) link
and that's okay
― omar little, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:51 (five years ago) link
People feeling attacked by innocuous things shocker. She is very cute.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:53 (five years ago) link
xpost "emotionally supportive relationships based on mutual affection" are really boring and no one wants to hear about them.
― Yerac, Monday, 21 January 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link
whoops wrong thread.
fist bump omar
― mh, Monday, 21 January 2019 00:03 (five years ago) link
I thought I was going to hate the Kondo show but it's having a peculiar effect on me - particularly the still moments where she blesses the houses. It's probably an obvious point but what she's really doing is giving people space to contemplate their relationships and actually be together for a bit. Even if it is only an incidental aspect of the 'method', it's a hell of a trick.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 21 January 2019 15:34 (five years ago) link
And I think I probably fancy her a bit: I like her angles and her posture.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 21 January 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link
Haha people attacking me for my MK hate. Shrug.
― nathom, Monday, 21 January 2019 16:11 (five years ago) link
― nathom, Monday, 21 January 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link
it's not for you, I guess
― mh, Monday, 21 January 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
Heh. True. Shlda smoked some weed while watching.
― nathom, Monday, 21 January 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link
I think the disconnect between classical "this should be for me due to topic/genre but it ended up disappointing" took a weird route through forums of classic geek crap ("I'm going to watch every star trek series and just criticize the hell out of stuff I don't like, although I still must know every detail of every episode!") to the point where now the default thinkpiece is now something like "I read every article in this issue of Vanity Fair and disagree strongly with how Bono was portrayed (but I don't even like Bono)"
― mh, Monday, 21 January 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link
and Bono was only mentioned in a blip about some charity thing in the front part of the magazine
Guys, 'You' is so awful. Just absolute shite.
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Monday, 21 January 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link
fine more for us
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 21 January 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link
I quit after 3 episodes, I just found it unpleasant & weird, and well, dumb
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 January 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link