Your 2020 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

I mean I know who they are, but idg the Franken fuckbois. Dems should be absolutists on harrassment/misbehavior, and MN still has a Dem senator. Where is the great and unforgivable damage?

also she's unlikable and uncharismatic.

obv a lot can change between now and 2020 but it feels more and more like harris every day

I like her and she has charisma. WTF are you on about?

i don't particularly want a democratic prez who once had a 100 percent rating from the NRA

She hasn't skirted talking about that in the last few years, so I don't know why she'd start now. Her gun position movement is believable.

She gonna switch back to pro-gun?

i have yet to speak to a person irl who likes her but maybe she just hasn't been around enough and when she is debating + giving press conferences etc ppl will warm up to her

i love ppl seeing an aura of inevitability when no votes have been cast yet

(I mean the fix was in 4 years ago and she still almost crashed... in the spring)

hey it could be anyone i don't know the future maybe there won't be an election at all maybe edward snowden will win.

obv a lot can change between now and 2020 but it feels more and more like harris every day

― Mordy

Mordy otm, I've reluctantly come around to her even though she was/is a prosecutor

all the rest of them suck even more

Gillibrand has the most anti-Trump voting record of any Democratic senator. https://t.co/KO8vWSoYIr

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) January 15, 2019

I don't understand the Gillibrand revulsion. She's been solid in the last two years.

to be clear, I am totally fine with Gillibrand, she's my age and I am on her side re: Franken.

yeah she's fine. I think Harris has advantages she doesn't (more charismatic, obvious appeal to minority demographics etc.) but we'll see

xp

plus no prosecutor baggage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJEaJR5HI_Q

Brown apparently making some kind of announcement on Chris Hayes' MSNBC show next hour.

Brown as in Jerry??

As in Sherrod.

oh right that guy

Gillibrandberders

I dig Sherrod Brown but he's gonna have to tighten up his suit game. Guy dresses like he manages a shoe store.

w apologies to shoe store managers

Gillibrand is pretty charismatic. I mean she is no Adam Driver.

Brown might make this a hoarse race.

lol

heck of a job, brownie!

hoping some more candidates make this case as well

Bernie Sanders: Democrats Need to Rein In Our Out-of-Control Military Spending https://t.co/pcJslXrNV3

— In These Times (@inthesetimesmag) January 15, 2019

Hard to do when MSNBC hasn't reined in its military spending on advisers, consultants, etc.

don't starve Our Great Military, Democrats

(not a chance)

lol Sherrod Brown is doing a "listening tour" in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina.

Just some random states

I wonder how much more attention Wisconsin will enjoy this round

CA gonna be a big deal this time

would be nice, for once

Careful what you wish for.

Gillebrand is fine. I like her. surprised to see every post about her on social media being people enraged about Franken though (and a lot of them are midwestern rust-belt liberal women, and they don't appear to be fake accounts either) but I don't actually see this hurting her in general. But I still feel like Harris/O'Rourke is what we're going to be looking at in a few years, and that's a good matchup to me.

the franken thing with gillibrand is even dumber than warren's DNA test as far as potential negative non-issues go, anyone who has a real problem with that is just telling on themselves

I still can't figure out if people are mad because they don't think Franken did it or they think it was fine what he did.

Both of those people are extremely disappointing.

I wanted him to be properly investigated, as he requested when the allegations came out. I’m also friends with his brother, who had a differing account of the USO tour than was offered by that particular accuser. Most Minnesotans who voted for him regret that (even though his replacement is good).

I still can't figure out if people are mad because they don't think Franken did it or they think it was fine what he did.

― Yerac, Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:45 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the main objection afaict from facebook comments is that calling for franken to resign was letting the republicans win

yeah it's stupid as fuck

His ass grabbing thing had been circulating for years before this. He probably would've been allowed to stay on if there had been an investigation because there is nothing people like more than bartering with how much shit you are allowed to do to women. But whatever, he's gone, maybe he can do something productive still.

But yeah based on what I am seeing people/democrats really hate Gillebrand because of Franken.

idk I just think nobody who is photographed making the bazoom-honking gesture at a sleeping woman has a lot of credibility as a sitting senator regardless of anything else

^^^This is exactly why I will never run for public office.

that's not funny, if it's supposed to be.

well it's a bit funny to me since women don't generally take these types of pictures with other women like that ^ because we are not generally as garbage as men. I can't go through my old slumber party pictures to check.

This also goes back to shady guys that still have the ego/manifest destiny to think they should run for public office without addressing these things completely. Like Sherrod Brown.

I think there should have been an investigation, regardless, because afaict the accusations were brought up, he was pressured into resigning, and that was the last I heard of it, him or the victims. If he was innocent and somehow set up, that would have been good to know. If he was guilty, and resigning was the right thing (at least), that would have been good to know, too. An investigation would have provided some closure/answers. I think what irked so many people is that he was one of the louder, more liberal, more aggressive voices in the senate, and he was pushed out for a fraction of what the fucking president has done even more definitively, which makes it tough to feel good about even doing the right thing. That's where we're at, thanks Trump.

Come to think of it, I don't even know what his successor even looks like. Has she done anything at all since getting in office?