I've read two pretty lengthy pieces on Pete Buttigieg in the past two days yet I can't say I really learned much of anything about where he stands on any specific issue. So that's not great.
haha xp
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:41 (five years ago) link
However unfair it might be, no one with the last name 'Buttigieg' will ever become president.
― E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link
he seems like a nice guy
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:43 (five years ago) link
the two articles both took pains to inform us how to pronounce his last name yet came to different conclusions somehow (Boot-uh-judge vs. BOOTY-jidge)
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:44 (five years ago) link
Whatever the correct pronunciation is, a sizable portion of the electorate is probably just going to wind up him Butt Gauge.
― E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link
"booty judge" seems, alarmingly, most likely
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:58 (five years ago) link
BUTTMENTUM
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:12 (five years ago) link
I would feel compelled to employ gentle dissuasion if any of the Butz-es in my extended family considered a run for public office.
― E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link
His Twitter bio says "BOOT-edge-edge"
― jaymc, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:30 (five years ago) link
Getting people to remember a correct pronunciation isn't the problem. That'll just be a phonetics shortcut.
Getting people to remember the spelling will be impossible.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link
He should get people to start calling him by a snappy nickname and try again in 2024.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link
Boot-O
― Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link
OTOH, someone with a name like that may have the requisite experience in dealing with bullies to make him a formidable Trump opponent.
― E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:58 (five years ago) link
lil boots, bootsie, bootsie collins, giggles
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link
cool
I hate AIPAC but there's pretty much no candidate that crosses the Israel lobby. Sanders comes the closest.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link
i'm sure Trump and his crack team of nicknamers would find a way to give Mayor Pete a sobriquet that was coded gay-bashing.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link
i think i've said this before but i really like buttigieg's run for the dnc chair, he said a lot of the right things to get my attention -- a run to raise his national profile & set him up for bigger things than small town mayor is a good thing in my book even if he's a longshot
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link
i've listened to interviews with him and he seems pretty great
reminds me of Obama in the sense that he has a technocratic bravado, "why can't we just do this?", seems unafraid (for now) of crossing entrenched Dem powers
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
technocratic bravado married to what feels like a legitimate 'just folks' ability to communicate with everyday people without coming off as too high minded
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link
('just folks' here being my pretty thoughtless stand-in for 'small-town middle aged white people')
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:44 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the booty judge is running for president baby
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
come to think of it I'd vote for Diamond Joe if he ran as a single-issue trains candidate
― Norm’s Superego (silby), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:02 (five years ago) link
every year in SE DC there's an MLK day march/parade and this year featured a Go Go band on a float naming bandmates & passerby with big butts ("GEORGE...has a big ol butt...FELICIA...has a big ol butt") and concluding triumphantly with "MLK...HAD THE BIGGEST BUTT"
take that booty judge
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
Clearly he should have been the one to announce on MLK Day
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link
sad lol at stuff like this coming out before he even announces
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/426626-biden-made-paid-speech-for-michigan-gop-ahead-of-midterm-elections-report
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link
Opinion on Medicare-for-All is highly elastic (in both directions) to messaging. When you tell respondents it would eliminate private insurance, support goes from +14 to -21. https://t.co/JYdFqYCCJg pic.twitter.com/pTpgcmdf05— Josh Barro (@jbarro) January 23, 2019
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link
that's not true tho.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link
places with nationalized healthcare still have private healthcare
Can confirm
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link
medicare for all, as currently proposed, would indeed eliminate private insurance iirc
I'd like to call for a ban on josh barro tweets tho
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
Noted
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link
"Opinion on _____ is highly elastic (in both directions) to messaging" is something I learned in high school government class, it's incredible to me how often people present this as a novel observation
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link
Those are still bad numbers for M4A, which indeed will lead to some of those things that make it unpopular.
I've been wondering a bit if the Green New Deal is meant to take over the role of M4A, as an election promise that can actually probably get through the legislative progress in a still very popular form.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
those numbers do not really concern me -- those are all pretty misleading prompts. it shouldn't be shocking that a plan so ambitious is going to require a concerted messaging effort on the part of democrats. it's a fight worth fighting
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link
Sure. But it might be the second budget reconciliation bill under president Harris, instead of the first, is all I'm saying.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link
how would M4A eliminate something like Kaiser Permanente? I can see how it would eliminate their *insurance* business, but not the entire company, which could still run its healthcare service network and be paid through Medicare... right?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:17 (five years ago) link
wait until Deez Nuts make a formal announcement imo
― rob, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:05 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i deeznuts do solemnly swear
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:06 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
DC scuttlebutt sez Hungry4Ass has launched and exploratory committee
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link
No it wouldn't. We still have AFLAC and Met Life and Geico and whatevers.
Socialized medicine will get you a hospital bed. Private insurance can get you a private room.
― pplains, Thursday, 24 January 2019 00:32 (five years ago) link
The Daily Beast reports:
Billionaire former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz says he can’t run for president as a Democrat because he doesn’t like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal to slap a 70-percent marginal tax rate on income above $10 million.
In an interview with CNBC Monday night, he shed some light on why he feels he would not run as a Democrat: Because he could end up having to argue for massive taxes on the super-rich like himself.
“I respect the Democratic Party. I no longer feel affiliated because I don’t know their views represent the majority of Americans. I don’t think we want a 70 percent income tax in America,” he said.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link
he's not running as a democrat bc he's running as a spoiler to throw the election to trump
― Mordy, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
I hope he continues to get viciously heckled at all of his appearances
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link
yeah the Presidential nominee of a party usually has to adopt the policies of individual House members
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link
not a fan of Mr Coffee, but isn't it possible he'd draw more votes from Yam a la Ross Perot?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link
Are there really a lot of Trump supporters out there dying to vote for someone who describes himself as "socially liberal?" The whole Trump phenomenon is in part a reaction *against* social liberalism!
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
lmao this guy rules
I love telling this story:When Howard Shultz bought the Sonics, my friend worked there in sales. For Christmas, Shultz gave everyone a Starbucks gift card, for $3. Back then you couldn't buy a Sbx card for less than $5. He had those $3 cards custom made. Merry Christmas!— Chirping from the bench (@taterpie) January 28, 2019
― maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link
yes, college educated suburban voters in VA
― Mordy, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
He doesn’t pay any fucking taxes. What’s his strategy? Open a Howard Schultz either side of Donald Trump to shut him down?
― suzy, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
i don't know Eliza, but there were all those NYT Trump Voter profiles that quoted them as saying, "He shouldn't say those things, BUT..."
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link
Krugman has had some good tweets on this today, specifically this one:
More generally, the socially-liberal/economically conservative position -- the lower right quadrant in this figure -- is basically the Empty Quadrant of American politics -- except in green rooms 5/ pic.twitter.com/fNXcxLV9bg— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) January 29, 2019
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link
otoh
ha that would be nice - let the plutocrats fight it out and make way for social democracy - the benefits of a fractured ruling class https://t.co/z9yoAAHgbT— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) January 29, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link