Brits - Who are you voting for in the European Elections?

Yeah, Greens edge UKIP for 4th, Lab get two seats, BNP nowhere.

When is the North West declaring?

North West is the one that's really been worrying me.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8088477.stm
he seems like he would be a dreadful teacher

the bnp bring out the ultra-authoritarian in me. how the fuck does one of them get to be a teacher?

Suspect Dimbleby hasn't done any research on the Greens.

"I've heard that Mr Brown is considering doing with this election what they've done with the Irish referendum, and that is to call another one and possibly another one until they get the right answer — that's democracy in the 21st century "

^ there was applause at this but it was sparse

he also manages to suggest his fellow members of the BNP are incapable of understanding the MEP allocation system.

(I think that bit of what he said is meant to be a joke.)

Toynbee now pointing out that the LibDems' weak showing is potentially very bad indeed for Labour at the next election. That's only bad given the assumption that they'll corrode the Tory vote, not the Labour vote, but still...

Just when I was feeling nice and depressed, I come across Lex Pretend's stream of hate. That's what I get for coming back to ILX.

WTF Italy has swung behind Berlusconi?! How the hell did that happen?

LibDems beaten into third place behind the Tories and UKIP in the South West is really bad for them, right? Labour nowhere so obviously appalling for them. At least nothing for the BNP. I'm going to bed.

South East being announced now

"1.12am: It now looks as if Nick Griffin may have won a seat in the North West, according to the Westminster grapevine. That would give the BNP two seats in the European parliament."

Haha dude shouting 'FASCISTS! FUCKING FASCISTS!' well done.

the camera quivered with unease

Best commentator of the night, that dude.

guy announced Lib Dem's Bowles as "Bowels" and got a laugh

This Terminator shit is the worst acceptance speech I have ever seen.

wow this Tory is a supreme cock

And now he's quoting Dr Seuss WTF?!!

i hope people now wake up and realise that is the sort of wanker that IS the tory party and you dont want them in charge

I think he is mental even by the standards of the Tory party.

Farage still butthurt about the ballot fold

Hannan is a fucking twat.

Also, lol at UKIP supporters electing an Argentine-born Spanish accountant.

North West coming up

BNP CUNTS have won another seat, there's been an unofficial announcement and Griffin is grinning .
here's the official result

Griffin got in. And on a pretty small chunk of the vote. Fucking shite turnout.

Greens 5000 short of preventing it. As with Yorkshire fewer votes for BNP than in 2004.

Really hope when he turns up in Brussels they tell him to fuck off home.

Griffins speech live now on Sky News

lots of people have turned their back on him and are leaving with just the journos left

fuck one Griffin

As a Yorkshire resident, I'd like to apologise for having 100,000+ cunts living in my constituency.I'd gladly throw them into the North Sea.

*cough*

When he rolls up in Brussels they should send him back where he came from.

― Scrum of the Earth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 June 2009 19:59 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

good luck england with your right wing paradise

blah blah had one of those for last 12 years blah blah

Griffin being interviewed there on Today. Incoherent, blustering buffoon: I'm confident he and his scummy pal will make total, total cunts of themselves in Europe as they do elsewhere.

But, as Stet says, another key set of cunts here are the ones who didn't even haul their arses down to the polling station. My next-door neighbour, for instance. Sure, most British politicians aren't exactly an inspiring bunch. But look what happens when you shrug and give up. Not sure what we do about this, but I sincerely hope this is a wake-up call for a whole heap of silly fuckers.

Point being made now on Today that the BNP's share might be up but the actual number of votes has fallen. Which is small comfort, I guess.

(ie "actual number of votes cast for the BNP")

Just typed out that same point having heard it too. I think a lot of those silly fuckers probably won't care that they've just passively elected some comedy Nazis tho.

Problem here is that, having failed to make a counter-case, I'm not sure how productive it is for "mainstream" politicians to get a sanctimonious group-wank going and castigate hundreds of thousands of voters for being evil and racist. However true that might or mightn't be.

on Radio5 this morning, Campbell compared his election record to Oswald Moseley's, to which Griffin replied "I like to see it much more like Keir Hardy winning his first seat for Labour" Radio v v close to going out the window. So fucking angry right now.

Problem here is that, having failed to make a counter-case, I'm not sure how productive it is for "mainstream" politicians to get a sanctimonious group-wank going and castigate hundreds of thousands of voters for being evil and racist. However true that might or mightn't be

Yes, exactly: if non-voters are going to use the "disenfranchised by shit politicians" excuse as opposed to "too fucking stupid and lazy to go to the polling station" then the last people they're going to listen to are those politicians. Hell, it'd annoy me if they started up with that.

It'll be interesting to see how the debate goes over the next few days, though: whether the not-interested-in-politics brigade carry on as if nothing's happened, or whether a couple of them perk up and think: "Shit."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCb2Le3wtIk

^^^Looking forward to the "devastating satirical piece" from Brooker in the Guardian...

Woody Allen otm

Curiously I'm optimistic about the future in that it's the sort of result which will focus minds on both the left and the right in dealing with the fascist threat. Difficulty is knowing just how much of it is a temporary protest vote against the Westminster machine and how much is a genuine swing to the far right. Some comfort in knowing that their actual numbers fell last night despite their share going up.

Where it leaves Brown, I don't know. At the moment leading Labour is such a poisoned chalice that they'll probably stick with him for better or worse. Though anything may happen over the next few weeks from someone crossing the floor to another cabinter minister resigning or even Brown throwing the towel in.

whether the not-interested-in-politics brigade carry on as if nothing's happened, or whether a couple of them perk up and think: "Shit."

It'll be the latter, but it will be precisely two people.

None of this is helped by interviews like Harriet Harman's on Today this morning, continuing to insist this is a protest vote over expenses. It's exactly that sort of attitude, that the Government are as knee-jerk as the would-be voters that would be influenced by those sort of media storms, that turns off voters for two reasons; firstly, those who expect more and better of our politicians and secondly those who, on that basis, are upset because said politicians haven't knee-jerked with them on whatever their particular issue is this week.

I still think, however, the fundamental issue with voter apathy is the almagamation of NuLabConLibDem into one identikit conglomerate - with nothing to choose, essentially, policy-wise between them it's difficult to criticise people for failing to make that choice. (I'd argue also that this is why Cameron is perceived to have no policies: he probably does, but they're not sufficiently different to NuLab to amke an issue of.) It's also the key, arguably, to mobilisation of the minority electorate just because they're saying something different and do represent and actual choice as opposed to a different shade of the same.