and it’s a huge point at the climax that Miles does indeed learn to say I love you to his dadyou’re gonna be in trouble when yr kids are 13 if you’re so “WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE FATHERS???!” already, at a rad cartoon
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 08:58 (five years ago) link
haha no no sorry, I'm saying it was all unnecessary. there was nothing that needed fixing in their relationship. but in a movie script something always has to Get Fixed in order for the hero to realise their true potential etc
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 09:12 (five years ago) link
Well, a case could be made that his relationship with his father *is* good, but it's the imposition of spider-problems that, for the first time and for a few different reasons, cuts off the line of communication in a healthy relationship. The movie could be seen as his (Miles) struggle to retain his identity when fate is forcing him to be someone he's not. He spends the entire time more or less getting Spider-splained, right up until that scene when he is literally tied and gagged, and it's only the final ignominy of being unable (literally, not figuratively) to speak with his dad that forces him to become his own Spider-man. That is, a Spider-man that above all else wants to keep it *real* - with Brooklyn, tagging, his school, his cool uncle, a dad who is spider-man dubious - while fighting against the forces trying to make it unreal (superpowers).
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 12:56 (five years ago) link
Dads are badKites are funThis derail is dumbI want gum
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link
How is it a derail? I'm saying it's not a flaw of the film, which was even better the second time, but a further take on a central theme.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link
don't mean you specifically, was talking about the "daddy theme" derail before yours
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link
i was speaking to the point of this being a "perfect movie" and explained why i think it isn't! maybe i should have started a new thread..
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link
I vote perfect.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
Or at least as good as Paddington 2.
checks out
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link
Wait, Paddington 2 was good?
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:36 (five years ago) link
Very good tbh
― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link
And I have v little patience for kiddie shit
paddington 2 and paddington 1 are both great.
― akm, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link
Yeah, they really are.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link
Paddington 1 is v good, Paddington 2 is perfect
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link
Loved both movies but I found the end of P2 really stressful (not including the prison dance sequence). It was like the Passion of Paddington! I needed another five minutes of toothbrush jokes or something to bring me down from the ceiling.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link
finally got around to seeing this and yeah it's fucking magical, loved everything about it, every frame is bursting with invention and it nails the heart of every single one of the spider-men (and spider-gwen!) it puts onscreen
― “Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 February 2019 09:36 (five years ago) link
otm
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 February 2019 09:53 (five years ago) link
oscar isaac was spider-man 2099?!?
― “Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 February 2019 10:12 (five years ago) link
Paddington 2 was indeed good
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 22 February 2019 12:10 (five years ago) link
Oscar is essentially a cameo after the credits.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 February 2019 12:37 (five years ago) link
exactly!
― “Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 February 2019 12:41 (five years ago) link
You people are a bunch of worthless pieces of shit for not emotionally preparing me to see "Spiderman: Into the Spider-Verse." A MOTHER FUCKING THREAD— amber ruffin (@ambermruffin) February 8, 2019
― Nhex, Friday, 22 February 2019 23:53 (five years ago) link
Idly browsing some article about Gerard Way after watching Umbrella Academy on Netflix, and it turns out that the dude also created Peni Parker. o_O
(iow MCR continues to be the most important band in the world.)
― Roz, Friday, 1 March 2019 09:38 (five years ago) link
sorry i guess this was prob known to comics fans - i just thought it was cool.
― Roz, Friday, 1 March 2019 09:47 (five years ago) link
I didn't know - if asked I would've guessed that he was DC exclusive, what with him curating the 'new Vertigo' imprint for them.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 March 2019 09:51 (five years ago) link
holy shit how amazing is this
― ~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link
:)
― imago, Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:13 (five years ago) link
t/s: this or isle of dogs. i can't decide tbh
― imago, Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link
uh
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link
sorry i hate it when people do that but seriously
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:45 (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
marginally prefer 1 but both are 10/10
― ~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link
Spider-Verse > Paddington 1 > Paddington 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isle of Dogs
― Number None, Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:38 (five years ago) link
unfair on isle of dogs but otherwise yes correct perhaps
anyway back on topic this movie absolutely killed on every level possible
― ~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link
Post Malone was unnecessary and the quote at the end was fucking repugnant, but otherwise yes
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link
watched it again last night, enjoyed it even more the second time around - so much incredible physical comedy in this, from big broad strokes like miles getting pigeons stuck to his hands as he careens around the outside of the school and the ‘kid dressed as spider-man dragging a homeless corpse’ train sequence to the little things like the ‘BAGEL!’ sound effect and the aforementioned spider-ham smashing a plate over his own head moment that is so fucking funny
they do such a great job of making the prowler of all people, a solid c-lister at best in the comics, actually scary too
it’s pretty much perfect
― invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link
Post Malone was unnecessary
post malone is always unnecessary
― invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link
eh, the guy just died. I don't think a dumb quote is "repugnant" (and I'm well aware of Stan's crimes)
― Number None, Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
the guy in the next slide just died too
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:55 (five years ago) link
fuck, post malone is dead? rip big man
― kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:05 (five years ago) link
posthumous malone
― Number None, Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:08 (five years ago) link
I have a much larger Post Malone tolerance than most of ILX but I don’t think it’s overstating things to say “Sunflower” is not only his best song, but is a legitimately good song regardless of whether you like dude or not.
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2019 01:44 (five years ago) link
" the quote at the end was fucking repugnant" how so?
― akm, Monday, 11 March 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link
i just pre-ordered the blu-ray of this and noticed that it will include an 'ALL NEW MINI-MOVIE “Spider-Ham: Caught In A Ham”' which has basically made my year
― kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 13:36 (five years ago) link
This is a very good film but the pacing has all the flaws that come with an origin story, plus having to accomodate a pretty huge supporting cast. The act structure seemed pretty uneven and I would gladly pay extra for less of the dayglo Akira climax battle, especially the gratuitous drubbing our hero apparently has to take at the hands of Kingpin so we can be reminded that Spider-Man gets back up.
Loved Doc Ock, not enough Spider-Ham, and what sort of bad guys are running around in Peni Parker's world if SP//dr is rendered combat ineffective so easily?
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 14 April 2019 03:22 (five years ago) link
can you explain what you mean by an uneven act structure? it seemed evenly tuned to me but maybe there are screenwriting nuances i didn't get
this movie looks incredible and rules so hard. as corny as it is, the twin themes of "the greatest responsibility is to yourself" and "anyone can be spiderman" really got me.
"dayglo Akira climax" is my new favourite w33d strain
― closed beta (NotEnough), Sunday, 14 April 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link
On rewatch it makes me want to fast forward through the beginning and get to the middle 50 minutes or so, and then I find other stuff to do during the final battle. TBH, this is true of tons of movies, many of them good, and origin stories almost always have this problem.
Raimi's first Spider-Man movie cheated a little bit by having Peter Parker get into an extremely low-stakes fight early on, just to show what his powers could do even without mastery; this one takes the more realistic (ha!) approach of having Miles suck at spider-powers until we're nearly at the end.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 14 April 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
Finally watched this last night on blu-ray - had hoped to see it in the cinema but it was out at a crappy time for me, so didn't manage it. Gutted to have missed it on the big-screen because it is, as everyone has said, absolutely visually amazing. Unlike anything else I've ever seen, and I hope it proves to be massively visually influential.
Do agree to an extent with Tombot - the neon-2001-meets-Akira climax pushed about 10% too far for me, and it definitely had that first-act 'get to the plot' issue that a lot of origin movies have. BUT the first act was also beautiful and there was a lot of eye-candy to soak in (it gave you time to get used to the visual language, which is good), and there were plenty of funny and humane moments in it too.
Can't wait to watch it again, and eager to return my borrowed copy so I can but it myself.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 2 May 2019 10:31 (five years ago) link
i just pre-ordered the blu-ray of this and noticed that it will include an 'ALL NEW MINI-MOVIE “Spider-Ham: Caught In A Ham”' which has basically made my year― kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 13:36 (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 13:36 (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this was great btw, would watch the shit out of a saturday morning spider-ham series
― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 May 2019 10:43 (five years ago) link