I liked The Root's take on it.
https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/green-book-has-great-acting-a-misleading-title-and-pa-1830572839
I think it's very well shot, very funny, has a lot of great dialogue and acting and reminds me of a good odd-couple buddy flick. I also think that a lot of the racial stuff is well-meaning but deeply flawed. You can't really make a HotTakeable opinion out of that so it gets lost in the noise
There's a huge gulf between "oh-so-important racial justice tearjerker" and "white savior garbage shitshow" and the movie definitely exists in it, imo!
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 02:35 (five years ago) link
My 60+ coworker who is v sweet but a total ditz LOVED it said i HAD to see it and i was like sure đMy Mum saw it and her review aside from generally liking it was âyouâd enjoy the musicâ
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link
old white ppl, basically
Whiney, what are examples of fine dialogue in GB?
― Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 02:40 (five years ago) link
huge gulf is right
thought that the screenplay was kind of ham-handed but that the acting was really good
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 02:55 (five years ago) link
The fifth time in six years a Mexican director has won best director. That's some kind of progress at least. Or lack of progress?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:05 (five years ago) link
I wish Roma had won best picture
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:10 (five years ago) link
Olivia Colman's speech was so much better than the rest of the show
âMy kids, if youâre home and watching â well, if not, well done! But I sort of hope you are. This is not going to happen again!â
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:11 (five years ago) link
Green Book was a big crowd pleaser. I saw it opening weekend, packed matinee full of older white people, all of them in stitches throughout. I agree with comments above about it being an enjoyable, perfectly fine broad comedy very clearly from the minds that brought you There's Something About Mary and Me, Myself, and Irene. Its racial outlook is retrograde. I didn't see Boho, but I assume Green Book is better. A Star is Born is anodyne but fine for what it is, the thing about Green Book is it's a blinkered, immature comedy positioning itself as a message movie, and it fails for obvious reasons. It won BP because old white Academy voters, like the audience I saw it with, resented being made to feel bad about liking it, and voted for it out of "rage" (quoting one anonymous Academy voter) and as a response to what they would call "SJW outrage culture." This embrace of the movie for nasty reasons (that email from the producer to the journalist is infuriatingly stupid) doesn't prevent it from sitting in the same canon as Road Trip, American Pie, Dude Where's My Car?, Drop Dead Gorgeous, Harold & Kumar, and all of the previous Farrelly brothers movies. But to see it used as a cudgel for white resentment by the Academy is upsetting, especially considering the circumstance of Spike Lee sitting there 29 years later lose to another Driving Miss Daisy.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:21 (five years ago) link
The irony is that Black Klansman (which I didn't think was that good) was, at its most basic, about a black guy in the south ... enlisting the help of a white guy to overcome racism.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:30 (five years ago) link
also ironic that Netflix, the champion of small screen home comfort film-watching, put forth a film that was really best-appreciated in theaters with good sound systems and big screens
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:38 (five years ago) link
xp agree that the Green Book win may have been about a backlash to the backlash
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 03:46 (five years ago) link
I def thought Green Book would have been a lot better if it just went full Blazing Saddles/Putney Swope instead
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:06 (five years ago) link
Like especially after Get Out and Black Panther proved you can do real, deep criticism of racism in hugely popular genre movies
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:08 (five years ago) link
Vallelonga jr. is now making a romcom about pizzeria worker meeting a woman named Patti Amore. It's titled That's Amore!
― adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:09 (five years ago) link
Patti Thats
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:09 (five years ago) link
i think i'm okay never seeing green book or the freddie mercury film or any version of a star is born ever
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:10 (five years ago) link
anyway, the thing people should be losing their shit about is "Skin" winning the oscar for best short film; that was the most irredeemable, tryhard powertrip, boneheaded wrt racism thing I've seen this year.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:11 (five years ago) link
Skin sounds and looks cringeworthy.
― TimothĂ©e Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:28 (five years ago) link
impressed that you would have seen Skin but not Green Book or Bohemian Rhapsody! I think I want to be in that world
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:46 (five years ago) link
My stepmom asked me what I thought of the Oscar winners, and I said, "I haven't seen Green Book and don't plan to, but based on what I've heard about it, I was disappointed that it won." She was surprised because a friend of hers had seen it and loved it. Then she said that she'd gone with that same friend to see The Favourite and they both hated it so much they walked out halfway through. I asked what she didn't like about it, and she mentioned the naked dude being pelted with oranges, the "graphic" lesbian scenes, and the fact that it was "inauthentic."
― jaymc, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:48 (five years ago) link
I couldn't even imagine my parents watching it, but that said, I think your stepmom and friend shouldn't have walked out, it had a great ending
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:08 (five years ago) link
I saw it with erstwhile ILXor carl agatha and we both really liked it and stayed to the end.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:10 (five years ago) link
and the fact that it was "inauthentic."
i assume your stepmom is a noted scholar of 18th-century britain?
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:16 (five years ago) link
although maybe it became more authentic halfway through and she and her friend will never know! :(
i saw precisely one of the BP nominees, blank panther, and thought it was mediocre.
the number of people i know dunking on green book has become so large, the reaction so seemingly reflexive, that i'm inclined to want to like it (or give it a try) just to be ornery.
that said, i don't know why anyone is bothered by a shitty movie winning best picture, it's a grand tradition!
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:18 (five years ago) link
wait, i lie. i did see the favourite. so that's two of the nominees.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:21 (five years ago) link
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Still sucks every time. and Oscars winners/losers have a material effect on the industry. When bad films or bad filmmakers win, they'll get to make more, and with more money.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:31 (five years ago) link
yes, otm
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:38 (five years ago) link
There was a good Green Book discussion on CNN tonight between Kierna Mayo and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:45 (five years ago) link
Get Out was not deep. Its best scenes were the social embarrassment stuff, not the horror.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:52 (five years ago) link
speaking of horror and of best endings, I thought First Reformed had a spectacular resolution, and as insane as the film was I thought Suspiria also had one of the great final moments of any film this year
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 06:09 (five years ago) link
Its best scenes were the social embarrassment stuff, not the horror.
These are not discrete elements of the film.
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 07:02 (five years ago) link
Sorry i can't let this go but this is an atrocity and should be called out in advance of its inevitably shitty full length version so people can avoid it.
https://slate.com/culture/2019/02/oscar-winning-short-film-skin-review.html
But even in a lineup of nominees in its category that this year included a child slowly sinking to his death in quicksand and another film that reenacted the kidnap and torture of a toddler, Skin was the piÚce de résistance, an idiotic parable about racist violence so breathtakingly vulgar that the audience in the theater where I saw it laughed out loud in incredulity when the lights came up.
slate synopsis edited for brevity/clarity:
Skin opens with a portrait of a father, a mother, and their young son, attending backwoods shooting sessions and joyriding a couch tied to the back of a truck. At first, the film reads as an affectionate portrait of a particular flavor of blue-collar whiteness. Then one night at the supermarket, a black man in line smiles at the son, and when the white father sees this, he fires off a racial slur, and the two men exchange words. The father and his white power gang then brutally beat the black man nearly to death in the parking lot as his own wife and young son watch, screaming, in a nearby car. Some time later, the Nazi father falls for a trap in the road and, as his son looks on, is kidnapped and thrown in the back of a van. Heâs brought to a garage, where a group of black men - pointedly including the young son of the man the skinheads beat - cut off his clothes and hook him up to an IV. Then one of the men fires up a tattoo needle. After a long, smoky and creepily lit tattoo session, the group dumps the Nazi in the street, and we and he realize that his entire body has been tattooed pitch black. The man then goes to his house, where his young son shoots him dead. The end.
Some time later, the Nazi father falls for a trap in the road and, as his son looks on, is kidnapped and thrown in the back of a van. Heâs brought to a garage, where a group of black men - pointedly including the young son of the man the skinheads beat - cut off his clothes and hook him up to an IV. Then one of the men fires up a tattoo needle. After a long, smoky and creepily lit tattoo session, the group dumps the Nazi in the street, and we and he realize that his entire body has been tattooed pitch black. The man then goes to his house, where his young son shoots him dead. The end.
https://deadline.com/2019/02/oscars-best-live-action-short-skin-guy-nattiv-news-1202564333/
âI donât think we were trying to make a political statement necessarily. In the short, we explored [how] what you teach your children is going to influence the next generation,â Newman reflected. âI think the beauty of Guy as a filmmaker is he doesnât pound anything over your head. [Itâs like] âI donât have the answers, but these are the questions.ââ
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 12:04 (five years ago) link
I think I want to be in that worldâ Dan S
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 12:07 (five years ago) link
omg that synopsis!!
― imago, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 12:13 (five years ago) link
Distant xpost, but for a remake of a remake of a remake "A Star Is Born" is far from boilerplate and worth seeing. Or at least, not worth aggressively resisting, like "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Green Book," both of which seem like cheeky parodies of '80s Oscar bait reborn as made for TV movies. Anytime I see even a still from "Bohemian Rhapsody" I think of the VH1 Def Leppard film. Hell, give that one an Oscar for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEIMfrFVFpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 13:15 (five years ago) link
bo rhap has parts that feel like hollywood made a pg-13 blockbuster out of fox and his friends... and other parts that are exactly as you describe.
― adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 13:37 (five years ago) link
i saw Bohemian Rhapsody and Can You Ever Forgive Me on the plane last night. BH is a great plane movie and I like the woman from Sing Street in it. I had low expectations.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 13:53 (five years ago) link
Boremian Hhapsody
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link
I just got off a ten hour flight and posting about the movie Restoration Hhapsody was very pressing.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:02 (five years ago) link
my resistance to the new Star is Born comes out of a real lack of interest in bradley cooper as leading man/director and - much moreso - a decade of deep-seeded antipathy toward Gaga's voice, persona and schtick. i'm not stubbornly prejudicial against too many pop artists but she's an exception.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:02 (five years ago) link
BorHap: Cultural Leanings of Oscar for Make Benefit Glorious Actor of Mister Robot
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link
âI donât think we were trying to make a political statement necessarily.â
This is incredible (if that synopsis is accurate.)
― Trϔϔship, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link
I thought Mr Robot was good in the movie despite the flippers. I don't get Bradley Cooper at all. If soaps were still popular, his career would've landed there.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link
xp that synopsis (which, again, i tinkered with for clarity based on my recollection of the film) is dead accurate.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:09 (five years ago) link
Lmao
― Trϔϔship, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link
What an insane movie
It seems like the feature version is a completely different story, a biopic of an ex-skinhead. That's confusing.
Nattiv went on to direct a separate feature, also called âSkin,â about a former skinhead (played by Jamie Bell) who had a change of heart and went on to have all of his white-power tattoos removed.
― jmm, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link
that sounds like a more reasonable and potentially interesting project
― Trϔϔship, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link