Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

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Isn't that supposed to be the 'family' at one brief point as the camera scans past?

piscesx, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link

No Pacino means what.. he isn't in it much i'm guessing?

piscesx, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link

xp: the group of girls at 0:46?

☮, 🐸 (peace, man), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link

Never mind that, Manson's in the trailer!

Carmel Sprout (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

xp Yeah. I wonder if this is going to be like that ep of Mad Men where there's this creepy vibe and a strAnge guy but no one says who it is.

piscesx, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link

can QT just die on an island in the South Indian Ocean?

No:

"As long as I'm alive, and as long as I'm rich, the New Beverly will be there, showing double features in 35mm," Tarantino said.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link

tough to tell from the trailer what this would be about but the movie *looks* good, certainly.

As far as IG I recall my wife got pretty emotional about it, surprisingly even for her; her dad escaped the Germans, barely, about four or five times. He never talked about the holocaust, she never dealt with it herself, it’s too tough for her. The movie was a sort of way to deal with it, unexpectedly? She cannot watch more realistic holocaust films, Schindler’s and The Pianist and others are no-go’s. I doubt her reaction was the same as others, my reaction was more a visceral one to the story and several outstanding scenes. So her POV on her viewing experience was interesting.

omar little, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link

DiCaprio's character lives next door to Sharon Tate in the movie

I'm sure he'll encounter Charlie at least once

Number None, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:00 (five years ago) link

Never understood the love for Inglorious Basterds.

i like IG just fine. never understood the hate for Django. prob my favorite of his since the 90s w IG coming in at a close 2nd. (but tbf did not see Death Proof or KB2)

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link

I'm in.

Incredible cast listing. My fave credit:

Nicholas Hammond as Sam Wanamaker

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link

Why is Sam Wanamaker in it?

Carmel Sprout (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link

Luke Perry plays Wayne Maunder, the real-life star of the Western TV shows Custer and Lancer.

Nicholas Hammond plays Sam Wanamaker, the actor and director. Wanamaker mostly worked in the UK having fled America during the McCarthy hearings. But his occasional forays back to the US included directing Maunder in Custer.

Number None, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:55 (five years ago) link

xp Yeah. I wonder if this is going to be like that ep of Mad Men where there's this creepy vibe and a strAnge guy but no one says who it is.

Not going to happen, but would love it if Roger Sterling or Don Draper or more realistically Megan Draper featured in this.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:58 (five years ago) link

We need Harry Crane carousing w/a hooker somewhere in the background.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 20:46 (five years ago) link

Dakota Fanning ... Squeaky Fromme

what a time to be alive?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link

a lot of children of hollywood in this film:

Harley Quinn Smith
Margaret Qualley
Rumer Willis
Maya Hawke

probably some more. i suppose this is what you call "meta" casting (although i guess casting always is)

also, this is most millennial name ever:

Hayley Malia Johnson

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:34 (five years ago) link

There's also someone named "Parker Love Bowling" in this, but that's more weird sounding than millennial.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link

a plurality of current hollywood stars under 30 or so are, in one way or another, legacy cases

Simon H., Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

Weird trailer--didn't know what to make of the end of it. If a trailer leaves you puzzled, that's a good thing.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link

keep reading this thread title as

"Quentin Tarantino murders Manson movie"

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:39 (five years ago) link

Damon Herriman (born 31 March 1970) is an Australian actor known for his film and television work in Australia and the United States. He is perhaps best known for his portrayal of Dewey Crowe in Justified. He will portray Charles Manson in both the Netflix series Mindhunter and the Quentin Tarantino film Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (both 2019).

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:12 (five years ago) link

franchise crossover!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:13 (five years ago) link

shades of out of sight/jackie brown

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:14 (five years ago) link

He doesn't look like him so God knows what's going on there.

Carmel Sprout (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link

I agree clemenza, it's a shit trailer, his teaser trailers used to be great, this is practically an outtakes roll. it doesn't even work as a vague/mood piece teaser. Whatever there's probably going to be 70 of them

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:41 (five years ago) link

He could release the whole film as trailers!

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:48 (five years ago) link

this will be up-Quentin's-asshole shit

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:50 (five years ago) link

The trailer makes it look very boring, visually - like its promoting the wardrobe instead of the film. Makes it seem like it'll be yet another 2010s movie that just looks like an expensive TV show.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:06 (five years ago) link

this will be up-Quentin's-asshole shit

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 20, 2019 11:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's almost guaranteed!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link

For what it's worth, I said the trailer was weird, not terrible--it wasn't what I expected...I don't even know what I expected. It seems to be less about Manson than I maybe thought. And I didn't get the final thing where the girl whispers to DiCaprio that he's a great actor, and DiCaprio starts crying. So it left me a little puzzled, and that's better than a trailer that spells out the film from start to finish.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link

idk i think it looks fun

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:58 (five years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/tarantino.jpg

Charlie looks very friendly.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:30 (five years ago) link

I'm not getting interested in this until I find out if it's shorter than 2:30.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:41 (five years ago) link

Quentin up his own ass mining for Hollywood / hippie shit in 1969 >>>>>>>>>>> Quentin up his own ass mining for Westerns

xp I would put $100 on this being at least 150 min.

flappy bird, Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link

shades of out of sight/jackie brown


this is kinda what I was thinking, which seems good to me

gbx, Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:34 (five years ago) link

He's crying at the end because he's a conceited actor

Number None, Thursday, 21 March 2019 07:56 (five years ago) link

I agree that it's nice for once to have a trailer that doesn't reveal the whole plot and best jokes/moments and instead leaves you wondering what the thing is even about.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 21 March 2019 08:39 (five years ago) link

Maybe those are the best jokes/moments?

Carmel Sprout (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 09:17 (five years ago) link

ahah touché !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 21 March 2019 09:33 (five years ago) link

Not that there were any jokes I could spot.

Carmel Sprout (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:11 (five years ago) link

That's the point !
Anyway, for all the Manson talks, I get the impression it's mostly a movie about... making movies ?

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:23 (five years ago) link

regarding his latest movies, I really enjoyed Death Proof, liked some moments in IB and Django was OK.
I haven't bothered watching The Hateful Eight...
Overall, at this point, I think my favourite movies of his are Jacky Brown and Death Proof.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:38 (five years ago) link

He's crying at the end because he's a conceited actor

I thought it might be that he's a stuntman who's overcome by someone taking him seriously, even if it looks to be by a 10-year-old.

Anyway, for all the Manson talks, I get the impression it's mostly a movie about...making movies?

Same impression.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 March 2019 11:26 (five years ago) link

Brad is the stuntman, Leo is the actor

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 21 March 2019 11:28 (five years ago) link

Oops. Not so puzzling anymore.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 March 2019 11:42 (five years ago) link

I really liked Death Proof at the time. Besides jibing (again at the time) with my appreciation for boring for boring's sake, it contains one of my favorite visual jokes, when this hard-boiled gritty '70s pastiche spills over into the contemporary world, and this grimy muscle car chase starts sharing the road with mundane minivans. Don't know if it was intentional, but I could have sworn the movie itself also shifts from affectations like fake film artifacts to something clearer and more pristine, too, but tbh I just saw it once.

IB, I pretty much like all the parts that don't involve Brad Pitt and his titular rag-tag crew. I also appreciate the cathartic audacity of its conclusion.

Django and Hateful Eight I thought were indulgent and offensive and stupid and lazy.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 March 2019 12:13 (five years ago) link

Yeah, this seems to me to be less "a Manson Murders movie" and more "a Hollywood 1969 movie which happens to include the Family." I wonder if Tarantino has read this book, Creepy Crawling: Charles Manson and the Many Lives of America's Most Infamous Family -- it's a kind of anti-Joan Didion look at not just Manson, but out how the counterculture generally, and the Family specifically, easily insinuated itself into the movie and music industries in the late 60s, and how quickly everyone shut the gates and stopped "slumming" after the murders. (Terry Melcher, e.g., was a *lot* more involved with the Family then he let on later, and at one point was interested in having Sandra Good move into his house and act as an, um, "domestic servant" to him and Candace Bergen.)

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 12:16 (five years ago) link

Kind of surprised Dennis Wilson isn't popping up in this actually

Number None, Thursday, 21 March 2019 12:28 (five years ago) link

I suspect there's no way his estate would let them use his name, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a Wilson-like character show up.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link


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