US Politics March 2019: “I can’t say I’m happy. I can’t say I’m thrilled”

^^^ otm, also pushing for voting reform everywhere i.e. vote by mail not the dumb "election day holiday" idea

i confess that part of my desire to see this vermin squashed is not just revulsion at trump’s disgusting and abusive and actually harmful core qualities, but wanting to remove the social and political impulses to install stronger larger fash policies and extractions. and also to deny his type greater access to actual levers of power. systems can fail worse than this. If you think it cant be worse, you are mistaken. If you think there’s a better oppty to eradicate it than now, i actually fear you may be wrong.

indeed!

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/435681-trump-campaign-sends-memo-asking-tv-producers-challenge-past-guests-who?#_=_

Honestly this is such a gift to his campaign

I guess, but are any of the current dem candidates the ones that focused on collusion?

Funny you should ask. Charles Pierce is following a few candidates:

Put simply, anyone who's telling you that the Democrats are in danger of overreaching in their criticism of El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago is selling you wooden nutmeg. In my first weekend following the 2020 election around, I heard general questions and answers about the president*'s character. (Pro tip: he has none.) And I heard a lot of talk about prying the presidency loose from the brigade of grifters, temp workers, and clucks he's installed in those executive branch jobs he's deigned to fill. But, mostly, I heard dialogue about a lot of problems and possible solutions that stretch beyond the green rooms of cable news—an environment, I admit, not unknown to me, and even less unknown to Cory Booker, truth be told. For example, remember criminal justice reform? Remember the carceral state? It's still out there as an issue.

no shit

Remember the carceral state?

never seen someone identify his audience so clearly in so few words

I had to talk a white male acquaintance off a Facebook ledge yesterday after he moaned that Donald Trump was re-elected.

Put simply, I'm really fucking tired of some of you guys on this thread implicitly begging Trump to win so you can return to moaning about how awful things are.

Those of us who are brown and gay in a state that Ron DeSantis barely won thank you for the leftist solidarity.

before the internet, you'd bury the lachrymose drivel in a spiral bound notebook. Congratulations.

White House spokesman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday that media figures and Democrats who accused President Trump of working with Russia were guilty of treason — and could face the death penalty.

“They are literally, the media and Democrats have called the president an agent of a foreign government. That is an accusation equal to treason, which is punishable by death in this country,” she said on NBC’s “Today” show.

The fuck

Oh maybe she is just saying the dems accused trump of treason. The paper of record (nypost) is suggesting she is saying schiff and co committed treason

No, "media figures and Democrats who accused President Trump of working with Russia were guilty of treason — and could face the death penalty" means "media figures and Democrats who accused President Trump of working with Russia were guilty of treason — and could face the death penalty."

"Anyone I don't like and that has said mean things to me...BOOM! DEATH PENALTY!"

what's new guys ?

I think at this point charging Schiff with treason would be an interesting test of our country's health.

It’s not cool

You know that this would never happen right guys

Like I'm not saying inflammatory language as such isn't alarming but uhh it's also what the Trump admin does daily and we're not going to wake up to guillotines tomorrow

yeah I'm just saying it'd be interesting for them to try

guys isn't it weird how everyone, including basically all mainstream media, is taking this as a total exoneration of Trump, despite the fact that all we got was a 4-page summary written by a guy specifically installed to clear the President's name

Honestly this is such a gift to his campaign

people are gonna forget about this in 2 weeks

he's going to keep reminding them

She’s a piece of shit but that’s obviously not what she meant, she was emphasizing how serious the accusations were. lol that it’s the nypost though.

yeah, her line was "the media and democrats have called the president an agent of a foreign government...that is an accusation that is equal to treason, which is punishable by death in this country."

people are gonna forget about this in 2 weeks

― frogbs, Monday, March 25, 2019 5:26 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup. or at least the republicans will stop doing their victory dance if they have any sense. it's clear from barr's letter that the report is full of evidence that trump obstructed justice. it's in their interests to move on.

p.s. schiff should be primaried from the left. he fucken sucks.

We should probably give up on 2020 as a lost cause, given that something good happened for trump 19 months before the election and he’ll be steering a tight ship with the utmost competence for the rest of his term.

Clinton's final "exoneration" in the emailgate cost her the election because it brought back up ugly associations. If the Pubs are wise, they'll take their victory lap and move on.

Dems should not let it happen tho. Make Barr and Mueller testify. Get the whole report released. Continue with your investigation.

Lol Joe

This is getting pretty... funny I guess?

JUST NOW: McConnell blocks Schumer measure calling for Mueller report to be made public

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) March 25, 2019

Goddamn Trump called for it to be public. Put the fucker out there and stfu.

Myrtle speaks:

No collusion. No conspiracy. No obstruction. It’s good news that we can conclusively set aside the notion that the president and his team had somehow participated in Russia’s interference in our electoral process.https://t.co/OAfiDBeZ8d

— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) March 25, 2019

here's what some very smart and sincere left-wing activists are saying on my fb feed:

watching the media and other bloviators tie themselves in knots is something to behold. As Matt Taibbi said, its this decades WMDs. Sad.
Time to talk about what's going on in peoples lives and the destruction of the federal government from within thats happening in plain sight every day. And then work to change it.

i can't help but feel that making this an either/or thing (we either concentrate on the russia stuff, or we work together to make the world a better place, or whatever) suggests a lack of imagination. no, mueller was never going to don a cape and save us. only idiots and grifters put any faith in that. but if you think that trump and the GOP's mercenary corruption and alliance with wordlwide bad actors isn't congruent with--a basic part of--the essential challenges we face toward achieving progressive goals, then... well like i said it suggests a lack of imagination.

i mean, i'm certainly more sympathetic to that view than to the louise mensches (sp?) of the world, though frankly i haven't really encountered those sort of "it's mueller time!" people in the wild and kind of doubt they exist in great number (even if some folks here have testified to their mothers brothers uncles workmates etc. being susceptible to that sort of wishful thinking). but again, the fact that our president is both a grifter and someone easily manipulated by flattery, a man whose instincts draw him to authoritarians, despots, and bigot -- all of which is part of the "russiagate" stuff--is a central fact of our political moment. and it's congruent with the antidemocratic, authoritarian MO of the contemporary GOP and the fascist media driving that.

I especially love how the Taibbi fans boy use Trump lingo ("Sad!"). But to be fair they're not alone -- a credulous media loves its presidents' language. Hence my avoiding "shellacking" and "normalcy." I only respond to "Fourteenth Amendment."

McConnell blocks Schumer measure calling for Mueller report to be made public

This was as predictable as the sun rising. Every attempt will be made to block the release of anything beyond Barr's summary.

tbf i don't think trump ever had a copyright on "sad!"

mcconnell might be the single worst actor in our entire contemporary political drama. he's certainly worse than trump, who at least has the excuse of being an addled syphilitic idiot.

i wonder if mcconnell even pretends to any aspiration beyond the accumulaton and exertion of power for its own sake, to himself.

maybe he'll choke on his own cock tonight

"it's mueller mcconnell choking on his own cock time!"

or y'know, die of old man with uncured mumps disease

still have no idea where McConnell's ex-boyfriends are

people are gonna forget about this in 2 weeks

well, certainly by the election, unless they don't

from the nyt:

MUELLER REPORT
Trump and Republicans Seek to Turn the Tables in Post-Mueller Washington

President Trump and his allies vowed to pursue those behind the Russia inquiry after the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, found no conspiracy.
Mr. Trump denounced adversaries, calling them “treasonous” people who are guilty of “evil deeds” and saying they should be investigated themselves.

great job, america!

Feel like this is familiar but I can't beng my hazi on why

“treasonous people who are guilty of evil deeds”

I think he's been watching Advise and Consent: (Charles Laughton) "You're dealing with devious men, senator, yes sir. Devious, powerful men."

just our luck that this syphilitic goblin who doesn't exercise and eats 16 hamburgers a day would beat the actuary tables

Would one valiant KFC employee be reckless in his or her application of toxic chemicals while cleaning, the odds would change