Things you were shockingly old when you learned

I am a haribo sommelier. Don't tell me it's a sham.

Wait, why would eggs even be part of a dairy food group?

I always thought of it as part of the "meat/meat alternatives" group, which is also the first thing that comes upwhen I Google "4 food groups".

Cows continued to lay eggs until sometime during the Middle Ages, hence the confusion. History, folks. Look into it.

I suppose proximity in the supermarket might have also facilitated my childhood confusion.

I always had some confusion about whether eggs were 'dairy' and eggs are in their own special section in the supermarket here (which you can never find), far away from the milk.

vague notions of eggs and dairy being in some similar category of something or other in the 80s

Things you don't consume 'raw'?

What, like chicken?

'Animal-derived products that aren't meat'? Honey is also dairy.

(I don't think I ever thought that eggs were dairy but they were definitely put in the same food group as milk in those old infographics.)

Have yrself a hunka' quiche

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Look, a wagon wheel!

1844 H. Stephens Bk. of Farm II. 709 Meat is then set down to them on a flat plate, consisting of crumbled bread and oatmeal.

Where I live we have long-since galaxy-brained into "lacto-ovo", "dairy" seems so old-world (apologies old-worlders).

They played pretty fast and loose with food groups back in the day. Butter/margarine, for instance, was once a group unto itself. Not sure how many servings they recommended.

Four sticks a day keeps adulthood away!

eggs are in their own special section in the supermarket here (which you can never find)

seriously

every time

lol i knew this would happen

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Expand on that, flappy

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I want to believe

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I'm getting over a cold and have been avoiding dairy (I usually do anyway). the other day I thought twice about getting eggs for breakfast, because they would contribute to my congestion. in other words, i am a Stupid man

I know where they are in my local Morrisons but I couldn't tell what section they are in and what's shelved alongside them. I will have to investigate this.

Eggs are next to the sugar and flour in our Sainsbury's for obvious cake related reasons.

the association of the milkman's cargo must be where the confusion comes from

Not sure whether this explanation from Quora was machine-translated or just ESL but I like it.

The misguided judgment that eggs are dairy items is regularly an aftereffect of perplexity between the terms dairy item and creature repercussion. While eggs are, in reality, delivered by creatures and, in this way, a creature side effect, they are not a dairy item or a subsidiary of dairy items.

Albeit numerous persons who don't devour dairy items likewise don't expend eggs as a consequence of sensitivities, dietary confinements, moral convictions or different reasons, persons who have milk hypersensitivities or are lactose narrow minded yet don't have a sensitivity to eggs can devour eggs as a piece of their eating routine without the antagonistic results connected with dairy intolerance or hypersensitivity.

LACTOSE. NARROW. MINDED.

I am using it from now on.

Eggs are in the vegetable/fruit section at my supermarket. Beside some nuts.

...creature repercussions!

After reading back over this thread I have just discovered that Crabtree & Evelyn was founded not in some quaint Cotswolds village but in Cambridge, Mass. I am a marketing man's dream.

i'm about to devour some beans as a piece of my eating routine

Wait, people still have milkmen delivering!?

it's rather less quaint but in the city I live now and the city I lived before now there have been local/regional dairy companies that will deliver milk on a weekly schedule

I always wondered why milk and papers were delivered, but nothing else. My little bro used to do the milk run back in the 80s, seems so oldschool to think of now.

I think it was a timing thing - milk, news, post delivered before breakfast.

Milk deliveries were quite ahead of their time, really - electric vehicles, reuse of bottles...

But, yes, mostly killed off by supermarkets.

it should be the other way round, we have just started a daily delivery and having milk magically appear on your doorstep every morning >>>> trudging to a supermarket to pick it up.

yeah I know several ppl who are getting milk delivered now

There was an association between milk and health that maybe made the idea of having the stuff delivered lack stiugma.
THough you would have other things delivered at the time, coal was delivered door to door and there are hatches in old houses for teh process. butchers would send their delivery boy around with meat delivery, probably other merchants/grocers/tradespeople/ whatever would too. It probably only fell away with the decline of the help level service industry and the subsequent rise of the supermarket etc. & now supermarkets deliver.
But there was a drive to have people drink milk to help growth in the wake of the first world war finding a lot of the conscripted men being seriously undersized. hence free school milk which i think Thatcher stopped.

The milk delivered at home would also magically *dis*appear - there was a lot of theft from doorstops apparently, to the point where the milkman was talking about giving up.

Feel sad for people who have never experienced cream-top milk sitting outside their door when they wake up in the morning.

Then again, the House Of Pain lyric "I'm the cream of the crop/I rise to the top" must have rang hollow in their youth.

I've been having milk delivered in N London for 20 years. When I started it was from a chap in a blue overall jacket and an electric float who gave me a cheery wave when he saw me walking to work. These days its from a bloke in a tracksuit who comes three times a week in the middle of the night with the bottles in the boot of his beemer. Real England.

i re-signed up to milk delivery about 6 months ago and they have still never given me a bill, despite continual emails, phone calls, notes left with the empties etc. I am slightly dreading the reckoning!

> Feel sad for people who have never experienced cream-top milk sitting outside their door when they wake up in the morning.

Blue tits pecking through the aluminium caps. Enduring image. Frozen milk coming out of the tops of the bottles in winter, isn't it?...

I grew up all over the eastern half of the US but never anywhere where this was a thing. I feel bereft.

Tracer, that sounds like a mob front tbh

i thought milk delivery had to do with freshness - getting it from the farm to the dairy to your door asap. can imagine the appeal of that lasting even after electric refrigeration.

Our house was built in 1946, and by the side door, which opens into the kitchen, there is one of these things for the milkman to make deliveries. It has a corresponding door inside the house so you didn't have to go outside to retrieve the delivery. I need to see about having it removed and bricked up, because all it does is bleed heat out of the house in the winter.

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newspapers and milk, the consumables with the shortest shelf life

by law milk is pasteurised now so I'm not sure it makes much of a difference. and i expect it's coming from the same dairies that supply supermarkets anyway. also not that fresh when it gets loldelivered at 8:45, after you've left for work. a little milk safe in the wall sounds perfect actually, particularly if it were insulated!

Ice was also delivered of course.

Not in the UK afaik.

When I was a kid in the 70s in Glasgow there was a guy who sold fruit door to door, I called him the Bananaman coz he carried a string of them around his neck, like the stereotypical "Onion Johnnies" of old. There was also a van that sold fish & meat that came round our street once a week - more importantly it sold crisps that were gulp not one of the usual 3 flavours, blowing my childish mind.

Did you have the ginger van?

naw but did have an icey, had a painting of the Fonz down the side haha