I admire Ben Shapiro's stance on boiling down complex issues
― The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:13 (five years ago) link
Conservatism means being furious, scared, and horny all at the same time pic.twitter.com/4ozTbtPphI— Ryan Boyd (@ryanaboyd) March 14, 2019
― Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:15 (five years ago) link
a bold stance from mr ben 'facts don't care about your feelings' shapiro xp
― mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:16 (five years ago) link
I agree with Mordy that arguments intended to expose the libidinous frailty of yr enemy are, at best, double-edged
― The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:17 (five years ago) link
claiming that her opponents find her hot is degrading to her even if you think you're safely imputing those beliefs to the opposition and not touting them yourself if you can't see that idk even if it's true (maybe especially if it's true) maybe they are obsessed with her bc she's v charismatic (aka appealing) and is promoting policies that they hate something that wouldn't reduce her to a sex object but make her like any other politician someone who is hated bc of what they stand for not bc of how they look. obama was a v handsome man but u didn't see ppl continually claiming that he was hated bc they just found him too sexy + it confused them (which is such a fucking stupid claim on its face - ben garrison is using her "sex appeal" to degrade her not bc his loins are so on fire he cannot but daydream over her visage).
― Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:19 (five years ago) link
like give her the minimum credit that they hate her bc she is a political threat and not bc they want to fuck her
― Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:20 (five years ago) link
Mordy OTM
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:21 (five years ago) link
whynotboth.jpg
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link
yeah, weird that a bunch of straight white conservative men weren't claiming that obama was too sexy, good point
aoc is a very charismatic personality who has been a tireless, and very effective, advocate for a lot of leftwing policies that have been kept out of mainstream american political thought for too long
she's also an attractive young woman who has been just as effective in rebutting a bunch of shit thrown her way by those same straight white conservative men, and i don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine that those people, who by and large expect suberservient treatment from women, have found it confusing in their bathing suit area
― mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link
There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time. And when the attacks on AOC has consisted of stuff like her dancing to Lisztomania, with the accompanying tweets claiming this showed she was completely incapable of being a politician, it's quite straightforward to think they drew that conclusion because they thought sexy = unpolitical. Which is basically saying their horniness confused them.
― Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:28 (five years ago) link
i can't find it within myself to take umbrage at the implication that ben shapiro is a hypocrite of low moral character
― Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:45 (five years ago) link
it's not about giving _her_ credit, it's about giving _them_ credit for being motivated by anything beyond personal feelings, and truthfully i don't think they deserve that credit
― Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:53 (five years ago) link
I...agree with Fred
― Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 12:55 (five years ago) link
otm xp
― mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:56 (five years ago) link
xp about making men horny all the time?
― Neil S, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:56 (five years ago) link
keeping men horny and confused is just good praxis
― Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link
right-wing memes consistently portray AOC as a ditz (90% of them are just recycled "dumb blonde" jokes), I think Fredrik is right here
― frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:14 (five years ago) link
They’re monsters. I think it’s inappropriate to talk about who might find her attractive and whatever though—even from the standpoint of being critical of the alt right. She isn’t inviting this kind of attention. She is just trying to be a member of congress and advocate for her constituents.
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:16 (five years ago) link
She’s facing gender based attacks from the right. Period. Their psychological motivations aren’t worth discussifn.
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:17 (five years ago) link
It’s gross to think about and irrelevant.
i just assume that we're affirming fred's statement that he is constantly making men horny.
― Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:36 (five years ago) link
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I'm at a point in my online life where my mind is so broken I genuinely can't tell if the artist believes this is a good or bad thing pic.twitter.com/tuCfRsoSzY— please @ me for access to my powerful brain (@ChrisCaesar) March 31, 2019
― mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link
There might be a bit of projection at work here too, given how the conservative movement has deployed/manipulated the sexual attractiveness of women on their side
― rob, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link
― Simon H., Monday, April 1, 2019 6:11 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
updating my entry for fred on my xls with this new info
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link
Is Alessandra Mussolini alt-right?
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 April 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link
i think being a direct descendant, and fanatical admirer of, benito mussolini makes you about as trad-right as it’s possible to be
― mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link
There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time.
ILX politics threads being exhibit A of this most unlikely phenomenon.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link
I actually think the horniness is really caused by their sublimated attraction to left-wing political ideas.
I am serious about this--a lot of conservatism boils down to a kind of Protestant disciplinary project (both disciplining others and oneself). Resisting AOC's "hotness" as a principle of how serious (ie, Elected and not Damned) they are is very important.
― ryan, Monday, 1 April 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link
― Frederik B, Monday, April 1, 2019 8:28 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i love this so much
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 23:14 (five years ago) link
i didn't catch it before when i swooped in to scold everyone
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/white-power-symbol-found-after-fire-destroys-social-justice-center-n990271
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 13:08 (five years ago) link
checking out a later period Steven Stapleton record on Youtube and hey look there's fawning videos about how Peterson and Shapiro DESTROY their critics right there in the recommendations for no fucking reason at all
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-04-02/youtube-executives-ignored-warnings-letting-toxic-videos-run-rampant
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:56 (five years ago) link
I use youtube exclusively for watching footage of vintage jazz performances on dutch TV and I get the exact same thing. I don't even know who the fuck Peterson is, and I barely know Shapiro except to know that they're both pricks.
― pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 5 April 2019 00:00 (five years ago) link
i live in hope that at some point somebody will enforce some accountability on google for their extremely broken site. it's a farfetched hope, but still important to have.
i guess i might theoretically at some point quit using youtube the way i quit using facebook, but i don't see it happening anytime soon. it's unlikely enough that i am unwilling to even pretend it's a practical option.
― Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Friday, 5 April 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link
when i go to youtube logged out in a private browsing window the #1 thing it invariably suggests i might enjoy is videos of black men receiving large prison sentences
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 5 April 2019 03:42 (five years ago) link
obama was a v handsome man but u didn't see ppl continually claiming that he was hated bc they just found him too sexy + it confused them (which is such a fucking stupid claim on its face
― Mordy, Monday, April 1, 2019 1:19 PM (four days ago
4 years ago I would have thought it was crazy, but now the idea of lots of right wing straight white men finding him kinda sexy and being infuriated about that doesn't seem so far fetched. Oftentimes in right wing paranoid sex fantasies about wives being stolen, the man is the centre of obsessively particular attention, the woman matters a lot less.
Take advice from someone who has endless morbid curiousity, never type into a search engine Rule 34 followed by Trump, Obama or Nicki Minaj.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 April 2019 19:24 (five years ago) link
there was a right-wing thing that obama was a gay sex worker and michelle obama was a trans woman so i think we can assume that a lot of republicans are psychosexual nightmares
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 19:26 (five years ago) link
See also: I believe dominatrixes that look like stereotypical "SJWs" are popular because some men find them scary.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 April 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link
Also, just read Robert E. Howard's story "The Hyena" last week. Full of racist/masochist fantasy.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 April 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link
I guess he needed an outlet from his usual work
― Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 April 2019 21:10 (five years ago) link
"Cannibal!" I ejaculated, involuntarily.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 5 April 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link
It's possibly more pronounced in "the Hyena" than anything else. I haven't read all his stories (just scratched the surface really) but some REH scholar listed a bunch of his sorta s&m stories and this one stood out.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 April 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link
― Robert Adam Gilmour
i have no idea which paranoid right-wingers are queer (though i have my suspicions about milo)
but there is, for the record, a long historical tradition of not considering women to be people
― Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Friday, 5 April 2019 23:55 (five years ago) link
in DC
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/White-Nationalists-Interrupt-Author-Chant-This-Land-Is-Our-Land-at-Politics-and-Prose-509170021.html
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 April 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link
New Zealand: alt right terrorist attacks house of worship of religious minority -- country immediately changes gun laws.
USA: alt right terrorist attacks house of worship of religious minority -- meh.
― viborg, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:45 (five years ago) link
B-b-but maybe this time Trump will actually backpedal on his equivocating over alt right terrorism. Or was it really just about a statue all along?
― viborg, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:46 (five years ago) link
I think i was a bit set off by the Guardian's fawning interview with Bret Easton Ellis:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/28/bret-easton-ellis-millennials-white-interview
Stfu old dude, your ideas are 30 years out of date. "I TRIGGER millennials. Out there sticking it to the man. Or the woman of color. Whatever, they're TRIGGERED."
― viborg, Monday, 29 April 2019 00:02 (five years ago) link
nice gammon reference though:
His manner is warm, and his face – pinker and heavier now than at the height of his literary fame, and topped with hair that is silver – bears a near-permanent smile.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 29 April 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/04/28/ignore-the-poway-synagogue-shooters-manifesto-pay-attention-to-8chans-pol-board/
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 April 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link