2020 Democratic presidential primary

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These Pod Save people might want to do a Learning Annex class on their highly skilled methods of persuasion. I mean, this is fucking amazing if true. To completely rewire a highly intelligent adult's thinking like that?

Yerac, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link

i think it's good that warren isn't a "canny politician.' it makes me like her more. trump was saying she was a liar so she decided to illustrate that she was not a liar.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:37 (five years ago) link

she was upfront that this was a distant part of her heritage that she learned of through family lore. she didn't claim tribal membership or anything like that. i respect the fact that members of the cherokee nation are uncomfortable with DNA tests and, in hindsight, warren should have sought their advice. however, i am much more uncomfortable with the fact that trump calls warren "pocahantas" like wtf

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:39 (five years ago) link

I undid my like of that Michael Scott tweet just bc dude seems like a conservative, but it was p inspired.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:40 (five years ago) link

Warren is fine being Warren. She doesn't need to live up to being the traditional total piece of shit politician.

Yerac, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:40 (five years ago) link

yeah the Office supercut def came from conservative circles. but it was pretty harmless really iirc

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:41 (five years ago) link

Also Treeship OTM. Whether Warren responded to Trump's baiting in the best possible way bothers me less than the baiting.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link

I'm listening to the segment in question now, and Lovett's question seems borderline sincere, but Warren's answer to him is firmly and resoundingly no. So it'd be pretty hard to pin this on him, since she told him why she's not gonna do it right to his face.

https://crooked.com/podcast/taking-gavel-paul-ryans-hand/

Starts at about the 59:30 mark.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link

lol that interview was from last March and she did the test in October?

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:54 (five years ago) link

Yeah, this was her campaign planning crew that talked her into this. Not some ex-Obama staffers on a podcast.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:58 (five years ago) link

god it sucks knowing that if Warren did somehow win the nomination, there would be zero good faith effort by the right (and especially Trump) to counter her policy proposals and ideas, it would just be 24/7 non-stop POCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTAS

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 April 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

She might be a better bet than Bernie. I haven’t decided who I am going to vote for—by the time they’re in NY I’m assuming it will be clear which one has the best shot of winning.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link

There is going to be zero good faith from the right about anyone. Who cares.

Yerac, Monday, 1 April 2019 14:07 (five years ago) link

True.

I can get with most of these candidates with my head if need be, but Liz Warren is the one in my <3. I wish America didn't suck so much.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 April 2019 14:09 (five years ago) link

The right doesn't operate in good faith with their own candidates, let alone opposition candidates. Yerac OTM.

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2019 14:12 (five years ago) link

I can get with most of these candidates with my head if need be

true but if the candidate ends up Biden or O'Rourke that puts me at risk of accidentally ticking the wrong box on my GE ballot due to uncontrollable eyerolling

⅋ (crüt), Monday, 1 April 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

tbc I like Warren a lot, I just found the Pod Save connection amusing. The fact that she's so far behind in funding and (currently) polling sucks shit.

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link

god it sucks knowing that if Warren did somehow win the nomination, there would be zero good faith effort by the right (and especially Trump) to counter her policy proposals and ideas, it would just be 24/7 non-stop POCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTAS

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), 1. april 2019 16:00 (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But I thought purely negative campaigns can't work, and it's only possible to win by running on popular issues. So wouldn't this make Warren the most electable?

Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 14:32 (five years ago) link

It still doesn't make the idea of subjecting the entire country to that campaign desirable or enjoyable.

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2019 14:43 (five years ago) link

I wish it weren't so, but I feel like Warren's best + most possible destiny is to be a really strong cabinet member

rob, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link

yeah the Office supercut def came from conservative circles. but it was pretty harmless really iirc

― Simon H., Monday, April 1, 2019 8:41 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the original had a michael moment for trump too, but the fair-and-balanced washington free beacon seems to have omitted that particular scene.

Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Monday, 1 April 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link

we probably should separate the head of state/head of government roles because a lot of voters and donors seem only interested in choosing the former. https://t.co/Nu3Xk4z5Ow

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) April 1, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link

Or, like, separate votes for the legislative and the executive branch.

Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

that was my most alfred post

― k3vin k., Saturday, March 30, 2019

Butt plugs and fragrance?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link

Butt Plugs/Fragrance 2020
Kink We Can Believe In

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

shocking

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link

can't wait to see how Kristen Gillibrand gets blamed for this.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link

$10 says it involves ranch dressing

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:58 (five years ago) link

I mean some people are trying to pin the Flores incident on Bernie, so I earnestly wouldn't be surprised

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link

wondering if his window is closing or if he's just gonna try to biden his time until may and hope this blows over
nb: i no longer think this is gonna blow over; too much heat from all sides

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link

yeah let's please hurry up and skip to the part where he sourly announces he's not running because the party has abandoned comity with Republicans and good old fashioned bipartisan governance, followed by Joe Scarborough rending his garments on air.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:04 (five years ago) link

Sorry for Amp and Beto Hot Take: https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/586201/

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:55 (five years ago) link

Xpost yeah a quick scroll through Twitter and I see people circulating photos of Bernie with his hand on Flores’ shoulder and Flores with her hand on Biden’s shoulder
So this is going to go well

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:58 (five years ago) link

Okay, that's pretty good

Finally an office with room for a walk and talk. pic.twitter.com/SfphOsXZiY

— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) April 2, 2019

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 11:59 (five years ago) link

feel the Yangmentum

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New Harvard IOP poll of likely Democratic presidential primary voters aged 18-29:

Sanders 31%
Biden 20%
O'Rourke 10%
Harris 5%
Warren 4%
Booker 3%
Yang 2%
(everyone else: 1% or less)

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) April 1, 2019

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 April 2019 12:37 (five years ago) link

phew, is it hot in here or is am i just feelin the bern

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link

Harris raises $12 million in first quarter

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 12:40 (five years ago) link

It's gonna do interesting things to the polling when Biden is no longer an option

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 April 2019 12:40 (five years ago) link

speaking of uncle joe

Immediately after I shared my story of sexual assault during an @ItsOnUs rally in front of hundreds, I met Biden backstage.

While speaking with him, he kept his hand on my thigh. He was uncomfortably physically affectionate.

I believe @LucyFlores. https://t.co/3eSuTUCBWe

— cece (@mylovelycece) April 1, 2019

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 12:45 (five years ago) link

yeah these are not going to stop coming. and who knows what else is just kicking around, waiting to be stumbled upon

Joe Biden just called me beautiful and gave me a hug & kiss and told me not to date til I was 30 #nbd

— Kaleigh Lytle (@kaleighh_faithh) November 18, 2011

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 April 2019 12:48 (five years ago) link

I had to go upthread to see who it was that was mocking this issue about Joe Biden. It was nerdstrom. heh.

Yerac, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 12:51 (five years ago) link

National polls are not much use for primaries. Most of the people won’t get to vote for most of the candidates because they’ll have dropped out before their state’s primary.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link

likely Democratic presidential primary voters aged 18-29 know just what Sanders is all about and they like it. good on them. he's reaping the benefit of being so clear and consistent in 2016, but especially his positions on M4A and tuition costs/student loan debt.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link

looks like less than a third of them like it.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link

most that don't won't vote

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:29 (five years ago) link

About 29 results (0.31 seconds) for "silent manjority"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link

Eh, he's polling quite well as a second favourite as well, a lot more than 31% 'likes it'. If Biden drops out I'd say he's definitely the frontrunner. I'm very surprised to see Warren and Harris poll so low, though.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link

Scoop: Mike Bloomberg might still run in 2020 https://t.co/a0QxVDqVBk Not to sound too cynical, but perhaps this plethora of stories directed against Biden aren't coming from Sanders, but another source?

— Marshall Auerback (@Mauerback) April 2, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link

lmao

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link


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