2020 Democratic presidential primary

That piece fairly used Mayor Pete’s own words to identify him as a likable technocrat who hasn’t demonstrated an interest in economic justice.

Don’t really get the objection to it.

nathan j robinson: harvard is a terrible place that produces terrible people. don't trust anyone with ivy league credentials.

also nathan j robinson: I am completing a harvard PhD to go with my yale law degree. trust me.

also nathan j robinson: allow me to say in 20,000 words what Hadrian just said in 10, but i'll make it less convincing and more irritating and more about me

otm

Agreed he belabors the point but knocking Harvard from the inside doesn’t scan as hypocrisy to me

In the 2010s, I'm not sure that's very flattering to him.

I'm pretty sure each person gets to choose when and how they come out, morbs. Whether it flatters them is kind of a tertiary consideration.

Yeah, I don't really get the hate for Robinson's piece. 'Overlong' is the only criticism here that makes sense to me. Even the Ivy League thing, he basically addresses in the piece, using Abdul El-Sayed as an example of someone who came from elite schools but is critical of technocratic solutions and has generally good politics. I assume he sees himself in a similar way (or hopes to convince the reader to see him that way). As he poses it, the valedictorian/Harvard/Rhodes pedigree is a reason for skepticism, but not outright rejection. You can disagree with this, but I don't see the hypocrisy.

t's just hard not to come away from that article without thinking Robinson is projecting his own feelings and agenda on Buttigieg

*hard to come away

not to just roll the otm back and forth but yeah, the piece told me a lot about nathan j robinson but not much about pete buttigieg.

I'm pretty sure each person gets to choose when and how they come out, morbs.

Haven't been able to discover any further details, but when one is a politician, other elements enter the picture, like whether it was delayed until he could secure power.

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i regret to inform you that the bernard brothers are at it again

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders' campaign Tuesday announced that it raised $18.2 million from more than 500,000 donors since he entered the 2020 presidential campaign in February.

The haul is the most of any Democratic presidential candidate so far. California Sen. Kamala Harris and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg have also reported impressive totals for the first quarter of the year, which ended on Sunday.

Harris has raised $12 million, while Buttigieg, largely unknown before his presidential campaign announcement, has taken in $7 million. The political world is watching to see what ex-Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke has raised after saying he had pulled in $6.1 million in his first day, topping Sanders' one-day total of $5.9 million.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper each said they raised $1 million in 24 hours. Another candidate to watch is Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, one of the biggest names running, who raised a relatively modest sum of $300,000 on her first partial day in the race.

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NJR is a very good essayist but it’s not exactly the toughest gig, he’s not responsible for actually solving any problems.

CNN assesses Bernie's odds.

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Building a national organization is about a lot more than money, but money helps to pay staff and open campaign offices, so it does have an impact this early.

Oh ffs

INBOX: FOX News to host Town Hall with Democratic Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders pic.twitter.com/kLw7NiOBrk

— Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) April 3, 2019

why not

I like this

Bernie will do his thing, and maybe some regular Fox viewers who wouldn't normally watch or hear Bernie speak will tune in.

Maybe if he doesn't win the nomination, he can become a regular guest on Tucker Carlson.

anything that F.B. disapproves of has got to work

Somebody explaining to a live audience of confused ppl how social security and medicare work

i for one am looking forward to bernie putting bret baier in a sleeper hold and going off the top rope on martha mccallum before cutting a promo where he says trump is too chicken to fcae him in a rage-in-a-cage match

annoying, but on balance not really worse than Mayor Pete going on Bill Maher, which I didn't notice anyone here knocking him for

i would suggest that njr isn't a good essayist but when a deserving target is in his sights he can be very entertaining

I don't have a problem with anyone "going on" Bill Maher (or Fox News) per se.

though i definitely understand the urge to protect any innocent ears from hearing Bill Maher speak

the problem w/ these appearances is when lib shmuck agrees to play the foil in pseduo "debate"

Bernie wld seem insulated from that in town hall format, he can just hold forth, what's the downside?

Context matters, and I can imagine Bernie's wild-haired white man shouting schtick explaining democratic socialism working on FOX.

WaPo has a handy new breakdown/questionnaire for all candidates on M4A / health care legislation generally

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/medicare-for-all/

Fuck Mayor Pete for going on Bill Maher, but it's still two different things. Maher is an entertainment show on an entertainment channel. Fox is a propaganda channel masquerading as a news channel, and Dems should not help them keep up the scam.

Perhaps the question should be, why are Fox News helping Bernie?

lol so is MSNBC

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Perhaps the question should be, why are Fox News helping Bernie?

― o. nate, Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:06 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

russians!

I have a liberal acquaintance who's on my side on Medicare for all, punching the shit out of the GOP, etc, yet remains addicted to Bill Maher's show.

My acquaintance is often a macho blowhard, so it makes sense.

the answer to everything xp

yr friend sounds like "a mainstream Democrat"

xps yeah Morbs Chris Hayes really fleecing the nation w/ his segment on Puerto Rico last night, what devilry

I assume Fox thinks all americans hate socialism so if the Dems nominate a socialist, Trump is guaranteed reelection

o. nate otm.

fred, i think you're putting wayyyyyyyyy too much weight on this idea that Bernie is somehow lending Fox News credibility here

I couldn't figure out how Bill Maher was still a thing and then I found out it's on Friday nights and that is prime "dads' unwinding time."

Hadrian, obv there are differences, and variations in the programming

also i haven't seen any of that shit in years, except at other ppl's houses

can you imagine "unwinding" to Bill Maher

fred, i think you're putting wayyyyyyyyy too much weight on this idea that Bernie is somehow lending Fox News credibility here

― ⅋ (crüt), 3. april 2019 18:16 (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't work with right-wing propagandists. I don't get why this is harder to understand than for instance 'don't take super pac money'.

can you imagine "unwinding" to Bill Maher

not without vodka

Red Bull and Drano

should the next Dem prez ban Fox from the press room, Fred?

(I don't care what yr answer is)

XP Worst Jenny Lewis song

Fred it’s well documented that you don’t understand how any of this works so I ain’t gonna take no lip