2020 Democratic presidential primary

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which they do already!!!

gbx, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

luckily for bernie his face is a vehicle for change

j., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link

bernie go on fox

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link

not gonna lose him votes

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link

I hear Bernie has a show on Fox?

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link

anything that gives fox news the slightest patina of competence or objectivity is bad imo

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link

I don't know why he would turn them down. He did the townhall in 2016.

Yerac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link

Bernie seems very single minded. I don't think he gives a shit who his audience is.

Yerac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link

Collins is biased but there is truth to this. For better and worse they are the ones who say what they'll do and how they'll do it. The rest are, you know, "I'll study that," "Faith," "Restore hope," etc. You may not like it but at least they go to bat. https://t.co/5C78tyolql

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) April 3, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link

yup

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link

That misconstrues what makes a candidate "serious"

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link

maybe... they're also the only 2 candidates who don't sound focus-grouped

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

(maybe Buttigieg to a certain extent too, but not entirely)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

The biggest benefit of being very specific and consistent through the whole campaign about your policy goals and how you want to achieve them is that, if you win, you can justly claim that the electorate understood what you intended to do and backed you up by voting for you to do exactly that. It makes the election be about more than just "character".

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link

Not focus grouped is a bit more accurate. They are more substantive and maybe more authentic, but I look at that as just a different strategy that appeals to some and turns off others. I think several of the other candidates are perfectly legit, but they think less specifics and a finely-tuned image will help them. Worked for Obama, after all.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link

being very specific and consistent through the whole campaign about your policy goals

btw, Trump did run on a variation on that approach by promising many extremely specific policy goals (exclude all muslims, build a border wall and have Mexico pay for it, bring back manufacturing jobs, repeal Obamacare and replace it with something super fantastic that was cheaper, too). However, even though most of his promises were totally unrealistic and unachievable bombast, he did pull out of the TPP and the Paris Accords, renegotiate NAFTA, and move to reverse quite a few Obama era regulatory advances - just as he said he would.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 17:57 (five years ago) link

Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg in 2015 addressed two local police controversies in South Bend, Indiana, by saying in an official speech that “all lives matter,” a comment that could land him in hot water with his party’s increasingly energized progressive base.

It could also bring new attention to his record on race as the city’s mayor. Activists say that the phrase “all lives matter” misses the point of the Black Lives Matter movement or dismisses it.

Buttigieg was apparently referencing his administration’s refusal to hand over tape recordings of South Bend police officers that remain the subject of legal dispute, as well as the city council’s request that a local police officer stop selling t-shirts that seemed to make light of the 2014 police killing of unarmed black man Eric Garner in New York.

“There is no contradiction between respecting the risks that police officers take every day in order to protect this community, and recognizing the need to overcome the biases implicit in a justice system that treats people from different backgrounds differently, even when they are accused of the same offenses,” Buttigieg said at the time.

“We need to take both those things seriously, for the simple and profound reason that all lives matter,” he said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/03/pete-buttigieg-on-police-controversy-said-all-lives-matter-in-2015.html

Simon H., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

Hilarious that they have to throw in Bernie there at the end... who never said "all lives matter."

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

oh yeah, for Bernie it was only Black, White and Hispanic lives

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

What elevates Warren and Sanders above the rest has less to do w/ things like specificity and polish than w/ clear records and priorities w/r/t to corruption, income equality, and economic justice

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:17 (five years ago) link

Democrats will hold their second 2020 presidential primary debate in Detroit, the Democratic National Committee announced today. The debate — which could include up to 16 Democrats — will take place on July 30-31 and air live on CNN. The first primary debate will take place on June 26 and 27 in Miami.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2019/04/detroit-will-host-second-2020-democratic-presidential-debate-in-july.html

I love that the first two debates will each take two days. Those water glasses better be full.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

happy birthday to me!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link

what will you do between halves of the debate? I'm guessing watch The Lost Boys.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link

16 candidates okay with lending an air of legitimacy to CNN

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link

prob gonna watch magic mike xxl on repeat instead of either of the debates xp

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link

good plan! (no idea how anyone can sit through TV debates tbh)

Simon H., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link

magic mike xxl expresses a more coherent version of the america i want than politicians on a stage waiting for their turn to speak

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link

vision* but also version, fine

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link

The first primary debate will take place on June 26 and 27 in Miami.

With this many candidates it will take two days to finish the debate

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link

Social norms are changing. I understand that, and I’ve heard what these women are saying. Politics to me has always been about making connections, but I will be more mindful about respecting personal space in the future. That’s my responsibility and I will meet it. pic.twitter.com/Ya2mf5ODts

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) April 3, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

^ gets it, gets it

j., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

It looks like that lamp is sticking out of the side of his head. Which it very well might be.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link

Most awkward way to start a campaign since the "I promise not to drive off any more bridges" video in 1980

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link

always been about making love connections

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:17 (five years ago) link

also, on Joe the tieless w/ jacket choice looks like he's showing up for the early-bird buffet in Coral Gables

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:19 (five years ago) link

Coral Springs more like

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link

So is he running for Kiwanis president or

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link

Biden 2020: Emotional Support Animal for All

Yerac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link

Biden 2020: He's Doing That Because You Look Nervous

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link

love that he's like basically saying "back when i did this it was ok" when the people coming forward are like "back when you did this it wasn't ok" lmao ok bye joseph

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link

jeez that video is a deeply uncomfortable HR meeting where you're expected to say "uh... yeah, i mean i guess he's fine to come back?"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

never really wanted to see joe run but this is all so weird i wish he would just go the fuck away

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link

tbh it's still so weird to me that anyone takes him seriously as a candidate that i find it equally hard to wrap my head around actively cancelling him.

i mean, name recognition and some residual obama nostalgia i guess but... he's just old. he looks old. he sounds old. he should be like maybe booking an easy billable 20 hours a week as a consultant on a campaign, holding meetings on golf courses, whatnot. why he'd even want to put himself through a campaign at this point is beyond me.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:08 (five years ago) link

It’s weird anyone would want to do this

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:25 (five years ago) link

hands hands hands

now its all about taking selfies or whatever

j., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link

STRATEGIST: mr vice president we need to explain the hands thing

BIDEN: well there are just so many people who need solace

STRATEGIST: yes good

j., Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link

He should somehow incorporate the consoling hand on the shoulder motif into his campaign materials. I know some designers who could mock up a logo for him

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link

The slogan's already in place but the logo needs work.

https://img.songfacts.com/calendar/17694.jpg

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link

That and Halley's Comet were the biggest disappointments of 1986.

pplains, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link

the "you can hug me anytime" responses to that tweet make me ill

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Thursday, 4 April 2019 04:19 (five years ago) link


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