easy with that s4 mate, do you want to put a Denton it
― mick signals, Saturday, 4 May 2019 22:12 (five years ago) link
I watched the first three seasons last week. I guess I’ll watch S4 this weekend.
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 4 May 2019 22:27 (five years ago) link
Rewatched or watch watched?
― mick signals, Saturday, 4 May 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link
more top-notch comedy from buckells, my new favourite secretly quite smart character
― mark s, Saturday, 4 May 2019 22:43 (five years ago) link
tokyo r yr in fr a TREAT
― mark s, Saturday, 4 May 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link
Watch watched!
― tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 5 May 2019 01:29 (five years ago) link
the series has always been at it's best when it's essentially a Columbo-like battle of wits between AC-12 and some specific devious individual - Gates, Denton, Huntley. This series has lacked that specific focus, and although the murder of Corbett was a great shock ending it also served to completely deflate the tension built up to that point.
― kinder, Sunday, 5 May 2019 05:56 (five years ago) link
Series 3 was a messy one too, perhaps even messier than this current series, but it still had that big denton energy
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 5 May 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link
also, i know it's a horrible critic's cliche to be all "even at it's worst, this is still better than 90% of everything else", but i'm still thoroughly enjoying this comparatively weak season
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 5 May 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link
Season 5 suffers from conspiracies and balaclavas being the weakest parts of LoD. Anyway despite the massive spoilers in this thread, I'm here for the H=Blobby reveal and will be mightily cheesed off if they put it into next season with a stupid cliffhanger.
― seandalai, Sunday, 5 May 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link
if they *punt* it
https://www.instagram.com/p/BueD0cynX4O/
― seandalai, Sunday, 5 May 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link
iii: some computer sex thing i don't want to think abt probably involving balaclavas and furries
― mark s, Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:42 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― mark s, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link
DOT SAYS DOT DOT DOT DOT
― mark s, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
When they mentioned Ted’s mother raised him Catholic because his old man left...children in mixed marriages are supposed to be raised Catholic?I like the idea that his background would have been unclear due to his name - I knew he was Irish the first time I heard him speak!Also do not want to think about his juggalo shame porn or whatever he was looking at.
― gyac, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link
bit of an Empire Strikes Back vibe to that last episode, everything left hanging
― or something, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/hastings/1263/
― mark s, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:46 (five years ago) link
Can’t wait for next season when we find out Buckells is the 4th one
― gyac, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:53 (five years ago) link
Gill Juggalo
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:53 (five years ago) link
_didn't think much of it but lots of speculation that it's a police exam_Yeah, Ryan getting set up for some final-scene piano-backed montage putting on the uniform while Hastings goes to chokey
― stet, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link
So wait, is Hastings bent/H or not?
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link
it's pronounced huggalo xp
(terrific "villain revealed" scowls at the climatic point in a the interview-room-of-infinite-reversals also)
― mark s, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:55 (five years ago) link
the four dots thing is rubbishalso if he's saying dot... dot... dot-dot then in morse code that's dash dash dot dot, right?
Also Carmichael smugly shows that dying declaration clip to 'prove' Hastings was H, but in it Kate says something like 'blink at the first two letters of their name' (?) ABCDEFGH - blink; H, ok - then ABCDE.... *no blink, carks it*so the second letter definitely isn't A.
Absolutely loved the 'urgent exit required'.
Disappointed the computer was just porn as I'd been joking all along
― kinder, Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:01 (five years ago) link
dash dash dot dot is z
― mark s, Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link
the big z
actually dot blinks on H and I one after the otherso probably meant Hilton who promoted himor is just closing his eyes for the final time
― kinder, Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link
I’m sure there’s a ZAZ or Mel Brooks gag involving an overelaborate dying confession in code. Touch of Cloth maybe?
Anyway, good season, surprisingly dismal last two episodes.
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link
Glad that Mercurio realised the only way to win at "who is H" is not to play. Less glad that the explanation was stupid.
― seandalai, Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link
Solid enough episode except that it really needed the audience to waver on Ted's innocence and start to side with Carmichael. It was clear from the beginning that he was being set up, unless you're on the "he set up Gill to set him up to throw off the scent" theory.
― seandalai, Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:57 (five years ago) link
Or so Hastings says, anyway. We still don't know the REAL truth. I assume.
― trishyb, Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:59 (five years ago) link
Find the person signing off all the immunity agreements in exchange for no testimony of any actual use and you find H imo.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:05 (five years ago) link
Are there actual shops with ‘computer disposal’ in big letters on the window? ‘Computer repair’ yes of course but disposal seems like a weird thing to advertise, almost like a admission that they can’t fix your laptop anyway, or maybe it’s a secret signal to craven smut-fiends like ted that here is a shop that will not judge you and your wanktomania. Obviously I don’t have a Dell full of steamy blobby-on-blobby action to get rid of though so I’ve never really looked. Also still puzzled as to why he bubbled wrapped it first and who the hell keeps bubble wrap in their hotel room anyway?
Other thing that troubles me is the four caddies thing is obviously a four candles reference and that corbett’s dad will turn out to be ronny
― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:32 (five years ago) link
http://images.45cat.com/the-four-dots-dont-wake-up-the-kids-1959.jpg
― mick signals, Monday, 6 May 2019 00:48 (five years ago) link
That was a really rough failure to dig the season out of the hole it had built. As he died, Dot blinked to indicate the letter H, which in morse code is ••••, which he was also tapping with his finger, which Arnott realized from a freeze frame, in order to indicate that there were four police staff in league with organized crime: Cole, Prasad, Dot, Hilton, Fairbanks, and Gill?
― mick signals, Monday, 6 May 2019 01:03 (five years ago) link
Still unanswered: most things
― mick signals, Monday, 6 May 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link
Love these buddy interludes though.
FLEMING: Well, we didn't get much from that person we just interviewed.ARNOTT: Could he have been lying?FLEM: We won't know that until we figure out some real answers.ARN: You're right, we still don't know the answer to the mystery that we're trying to solve.FLEM: We better go find the next clue now!ARN: Should we hurry?FLEM: Yes, there's work to be done!ARN: You're right, and it's urgent police work!
― mick signals, Monday, 6 May 2019 01:33 (five years ago) link
Hastings is totally bent.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 6 May 2019 05:55 (five years ago) link
I won't have any of that talk in here, fella
― kinder, Monday, 6 May 2019 06:56 (five years ago) link
crap that the 'smoking gun' in the end was a conveniently recorded conversation between Gill and JC laying out the framing of Ted.probably the most disappointing bit of the whole series.hoping that in s6 they just never mention the morse code thing again.
― kinder, Monday, 6 May 2019 06:57 (five years ago) link
and it's still not clear if/how the ocg had someone independently nicknamed H involved, from the start, or did Corbett start referring to an 'H' as top dog and it caught on?
― kinder, Monday, 6 May 2019 06:59 (five years ago) link
I also have a problem with the idea that Ted’s debts and the fact he was interviewed over a missing woman wouldn’t be reasons for him to not get his DV clearance!
― gyac, Monday, 6 May 2019 08:26 (five years ago) link
Looks like we're going to have to wait until next season to find out whether Steve's able to get an erection :(
― paolo, Monday, 6 May 2019 09:51 (five years ago) link
1: we don't know i'ts porn and on the whole LoD abides by chekhov's gun -- in the absence of an earlier hotel flagging of ted's cranked hog this is a made-up red herring* *2: unless we can er enhance his laptop screen once more 3: per google, computer disposal does exist as a trade but it's usually called something like "equipment recycling" 4: i think morse is also a red herring: with his mouth dot was beginning to spell out "hang on, it's on the tips of my fingers", with his fingers he was tapping out "dot dot, dot, dot, poor dot thou art undone" and the actual message is signalled by SEMAPHORE, which judging by dot's sprawled position is an "E". possibly for EDWARD HASTINGS…
https://storage.googleapis.com/welovesailing-117.appspot.com/images/sailing-theory/sailing-communication/semaphore-flags/sailing-semaphore-signal-flag-e-echo.png
― mark s, Monday, 6 May 2019 10:01 (five years ago) link
i feel the plan of "remove huggalo via a wee witch™ of a bent copper WITH A TINY KNIFE" was never going to be the flawlessly baffling crime we've come to expect from OCG
(tho i guess there aren't as many of OCG left to criminally mastermind these things)
(in ted's cranked hog terms we DID know corbett had some stuff hidden with his wife, and the idea it was a back-up recording by him of the plan he was embedded in doesn't tbh seem a total stretch?) (it's less stupid than all the dying declaration BUT IN CODE stuff)
― mark s, Monday, 6 May 2019 10:09 (five years ago) link
a thing jed is good at -- or let's say consistent at -- is treating the dramatic reveal in an interview as more of a tactical pressure point than tying up the entire story in a pretty causal ribbon: the underlying truth i guess is that the police don't really usually know what happened, they rely more on psychology and bullying and traps than FACTS and LOGIC, and that anyone in the interview-room-of-infinite-reversals who can keep their nerve is not in the bad position they seem to be, especially if they themselves can still arrest and charge someone unexpected
s6: the duty soliicitor turns to the camera, gazing out at we the viewer, and puts us all away for watching this silly nonsense through six whole seasons
q1: did ted get his actual real son killed via the OCG guy in pokey? not yet clear q2: where is the rest of the £500,000? not yet clearq3: what was on ted's computer? (a website on how to obtain bubblewrap if yr in a hotel)
― mark s, Monday, 6 May 2019 10:16 (five years ago) link
don't think John was Ted's son? he wasn't in the RUC for long enough iirc.what 500k? Ted had 100k, kept half and presumably gave it to John's widowwas that redhead stabber just using her own initiative to get gill or had someone somewhere given the order?
― kinder, Monday, 6 May 2019 10:29 (five years ago) link
― kinder, Monday, 6 May 2019 10:33 (five years ago) link
JC was his spiritual son
― mark s, Monday, 6 May 2019 10:37 (five years ago) link
was that redhead stabber just using her own initiative to get gill or had someone somewhere given the order?
― gyac, Monday, 6 May 2019 11:21 (five years ago) link
Oh dear. I thought that latter half of the finale was properly terrible!
Hasting's first half interview was pretty good, especially the Northern Ireland connection and his emotional breakdown at the reveal of John's true identity, but after that it went totally off the rails.
I thought Gill's 'Urgent Exit Required' was groan-inducing but then the bathroom stabbing... I burst out laughing. Let alone the morse code nonsense... mother of god, Jed! Desperately reverse engineering yet more material from an ancient scene that simply was not there before.
Funny and somewhat disheartening to see every half-decent internet fan theory coming true too... Hastings involved with John's parents, Gill as baddie, Ryan joins police etc etc.
― brain (krakow), Monday, 6 May 2019 12:37 (five years ago) link