So last night for our mom/son movie weekend, I picked “The Shawshank Redemption”. Tonight he picked “Us”. 😳 #NoComparison #IWillBeSleepingWithTheLightsOn@JordanPeele— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) May 5, 2019
― omar little, Sunday, 5 May 2019 14:52 (five years ago) link
This was kinda bad...? Just on a structural level - too little characterization, way too much exposition (which still managed to somehow leave tons unexplained), a “twist” ending that I had watched the whole film assuming was the case, loads of flubbed beats/things that should’ve been scary but just came off stupid. Great cast all around, looked great, good score, loved the Santa Cruz stuff but all in the service of some not-too-well thought out ideas.
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 December 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
yup. huge disapointment
― flopson, Monday, 9 December 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
I'll still watch whatever he does next - I liked that one Twilight Zone episode of his that I saw - but it was weird how slapdash this felt, plot-wise. Really everything that was wrong with it came down to the writing.
At least Heidecker was reliably hilarious.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 December 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
This really seemed like a script that had been gathering dust until Peele had the breakthrough hit, and then it got made without anyone giving it a good old once-over like it needed. Still looking forward to his next move though.
― Sent me the wrong t-shirt it says let’s summon demons (Matt #2), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link
'antebellum' apparently... trailer looked intersting
― ingredience (map), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link
thought it was interesting, with the dichotomy of “them” and “us”, where the monsters are almost exactly like the heroes
― Dan S, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
as he said, the fear of american society
― Dan S, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
and Lupita Nyong'o was amazing I thought
― Dan S, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 01:37 (four years ago) link
This really seemed like a script that had been gathering dust until Peele had the breakthrough hit, and then it got made without anyone giving it a good old once-over like it needed. Still looking forward to his next move though.― Sent me the wrong t-shirt it says let’s summon demons (Matt #2), Monday, December 9, 2019 8:10 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Sent me the wrong t-shirt it says let’s summon demons (Matt #2), Monday, December 9, 2019 8:10 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
otm, although apparently he only started writing it after Get Out was a hit. It shows - huge expository dump at the end just sinks the whole thing.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
It's no more egregious in length or scope than any other horror denouement.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
i also thought this was kinda bad. although i didn't really love get out either tbh. *runs away and hides*
― #FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
still love this movie, its looseness is what makes it great imo
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
yeah I was hesitant the first time, but loved it the second.
they had an Us haunted house at Halloween Horror nights and it ended with the "hands across America" thing, it was really dope.
don't think it would make much sense as a house to anybody who didn't see the movie though
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
the expository dump at the end is especially weird because it's between two characters who both already know that shit
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
they both know they switched places that night. The tether who escaped sure as hell didn't know anything beyond that, she never visited the person she swapped with.
The tether has no idea what the real Nyong'o was doing below the surface all of those years, or how she organized the tethers to kill their surface overlords.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link
here is the entirety or Red's speech. It's safe to say the Adelaide knows all the bolded stuff. This is bad writing.
How it must have been to grow up with the sky. To feel the sun, the wind, the trees. But your people took it for granted. We’re human too, you know. Eyes. Teeth. Hands. Blood. Exactly like you.
And yet, it was humans that built this place. I believe they figured out how to make a copy of the body, but not the soul. The soul remains one, shared by two. They created the Tethered so they could use them to control the ones above. Like puppets.
But they failed, and they abandoned the Tethered. For generations the Tethered continued without direction. They all went mad down here. And then... there was us.
You remember? We were born special. God brought us together that night.
Years after we met, the miracle happened. That’s when I saw God, and he showed me my path. You felt it too. The end of our dance the Tethered saw that I was different, that I would deliver them from this misery. I found my faith and I began to prepare. It took years to plan. Everything had to be perfect. I didn’t just need to kill you. I needed to make a statement that the whole world would see. It’s our time now. Our time up there. And to think, if it weren’t for you, I never would’ve danced at all.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link
it was humans that built this place. I believe they figured out how to make a copy of the body, but not the soul. The soul remains one, shared by two. They created the Tethered so they could use them to control the ones above. Like puppets.
But they failed, and they abandoned the Tethered.
this chunk especially - never alluded to in the film before, but basically explains the entire setup in one fell swoop while just raising more (mostly stupid) questions. (Humans? Which humans? Why? How did it work? What was the goal? Why would they leave people alive down there if it was a failed experiment? How did they stay alive? etc etc)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
if your explanation doesn't actually explain anything, better to just leave it totally ambiguous and leave the audience wondering imo
does red know that adelaide knows it
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
my read has always been that they were young when it happened and their environments changed so drastically and permanently that they legit forgot the switch happened, idk
they stayed alive by eating the rabbits obviously but i don't particularly care that the exposition is stupid
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
also adelaide was a kid when she transitioned into the outer world, she wouldn't necessarily know anything about the whole project
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:36 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
or, you know, this post, which nothing you've said contradicts shakey
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
yeah, it very much read like the tether had remembered events to where she was the victim. after killing the people in the friends house, she starts making primitive, animalistic noises after the act was done, same when she fights Red at the end. her son hears some of it and is actually scared of her in the van, it appears. sounds like she regressed enough that she remembered at the end of the movie that she was the one who swapped places.
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
and obv I know Hollywood always treats repressed memories in a very unrealistic way but who cares.
"why would the devil spin the little girl's head in The Exorcist, surely the girl would be dead as soon as the devil left her body, the same laws of biology apply!"
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
they legit forgot the switch happened
they both felt some kind of mystical connection during the dance, which is explicitly stated and is decades earlier than the main events in the film
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
one more time
Years after we met, the miracle happened. That’s when I saw God, and he showed me my path. You felt it too.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
I mean *they share a fucking soul* how much more connected could they be
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
yes they felt some kind of mystical connection during the dance but does that mean they automatically know the entire context of the government project
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
or at least, that doesn't mean that adelaide does!
so yeah i'm finding more reasons for the exposition dump to exist
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
the entire context of the government project
government is not referenced
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
idk why I'm bothering tbh
i don't know why you're bothering either
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
or why it matters that the government isn't referenced
as a specific point it doesn't matter, but I'm suspicious of any reading that isn't firmly rooted in actual details of what's on-screen.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 December 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
The fun thing about this detail is that if you eat a diet solely composed of rabbit you will starve to death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning
so they couldn't have picked a worse food source for their nonsensical plan!
― Number None, Friday, 20 December 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
thanks for that one cinema sins
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 20 December 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
and a merry christmas to you too
― Number None, Friday, 20 December 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ef6b539e-4be2-4388-8d00-05251d9aee20
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 December 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
I loved the first 45 mins, and then spent the rest of the time alternately amused and exasperated. The middle part is definitely the weakest, as it basically becomes a home invasion thriller with this one kooky hook. The final reveal worked ok for me even if it doesn't entirely play fair with the lead character's childhood trauma.
― Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Monday, 23 December 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
it's a good home invasion thriller! also iirc the part where Peele gets to work more humour than elsewhere into the movie?
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 23 December 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
I loved this movie a lot and my takeaway from this thread is that I would thoroughly hate watching a movie with most of you
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link
I also have some incredibly unkind thoughts on subconscious bias as expressed in some of the complaints about this movie but they are possibly more about my interpretation of the complaints than the actual complaints themselves.
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link
(Primary being "the dialog was stilted" = "black people don't talk like that")
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
(I guess I do feel like going there)
thread revive got me all mixed up in light of other recent events. Jordan Peele threatening pre-emptive Iran strike, do I have that right?
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 6 January 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
say what now?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link