Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

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weird that i feel very much okay with tarantino killing hitler in his wwii revenge picture but very much not okay at the prospect of him 'saving' sharon tate in this one

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link

same

Simon H., Wednesday, 22 May 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link

I'm gonna ask my Cannes contact to spoil it for me

Simon H., Wednesday, 22 May 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link

They're gonna break into the wrong house and kill DiCaprio and Pitt.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link

No genuine spoilers on this thread, please.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

simon pls inbox me full and detailed spoilers kthxbye

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 14:07 (five years ago) link

MANSON KILLS DAENERYS & IRON MAN.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link

Anyway, A.A. Dowd at The AV Club gives it a B+ fwiw

https://film.avclub.com/quentin-tarantino-fights-the-future-in-his-funky-meand-1834944301

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 15:59 (five years ago) link

Is the word "Baggy" a new film crit plaything? Somebody over on CriterionForum collected up a number of tweets re:OUATIH and it appeared in like 3/4 of them.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 16:33 (five years ago) link

I remember it being used to describe his last 2 movies

flappy bird, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link

It's gotta be a loose fit.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link

I think it's gonna be Sharon Tate that ends up killing Manson somehow

Smothering him to death with her gigantic, naked feet, of course.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link

The ending to Inglorious Basterds was an entertaining twist. Django was just dumb. If he's going for some kind of wish fulfillment fix for the Manson murders, I'll be pretty disappointed.

Movie looks cool though, so I'm not ready to abandon hope.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

Manson gets that record deal, no murders.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link

At the behest of a desperate Dennis Wilson, Mike Love kills the entire Manson family.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 17:11 (five years ago) link

At the behest of a desperate Dennis Wilson, Mike Love has his photograph taken with the entire Manson family, 45 years later it is posted on a thread on the ILX message board.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

alright im outta here until July

flappy bird, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

If, as widely guessed, Brad Pitt prevents the murders in a blaze of bloody glory, that will be an Inglourious Bastards-derived joke come to fully unimagined life.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link

Sharon Tate lives, plays Jackie Brown in an universally acclaimed comeback in 1997.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link

a nearly comatose-able experience directed savegly

would make a great blurb for the poster

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

Anyone who wants full spoilers: go digging in the Wiki entry's edit history.

Simon H., Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

OK, that's officially even worse than anything I would have come up with.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

lol my reaction as well

devvvine, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link

yup

Simon H., Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link

Movie looks cool though

iirc QT works with a good cinematographer. don't let that fool you.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 20:35 (five years ago) link

I truly can’t think of a dumber ending, or one that plays to his critics more. Is there a German word for the paradoxical feeling of actually being surprised at how lazily predictable something ends up being?

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

And when Sharon Tate, spared a grisly end by Bruce Lee's single-handed dispatch of her would-be assailants, finally did give birth, her son grew up to be famous in his own right. His name? Quentin Tarantino. And that's the rest of the story. Good day!

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

(If I did guess the ending, I swear it was a total accident and I apologize, but if it's actually that stupid then you should probably also demand an apology from QT himself.)

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

I approve of your Paul Harvey impression, could use more ellipses though

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:11 (five years ago) link

oh god there’s gonna be so many fucking thinkpieces about this

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link

stinkpieces

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 May 2019 02:09 (five years ago) link

Video store boy makes another film. What a grifter.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 May 2019 02:16 (five years ago) link

Doesn't look like this has been posted, unless I missed it.

http://www.vulture.com/2019/05/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-review.html?fbclid=IwAR0kWz7CbfHiURq8pmffxOUjehb_ZF90Gr8V2qSPW9Iny6cWwNeGbiIZIPE

I barely skim reviews beforehand, but does seem to be enthusiastic.

clemenza, Thursday, 23 May 2019 12:44 (five years ago) link

oh god there’s gonna be so many fucking thinkpieces about this

― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, May 22, 2019 6:16 PM (

I went on one of my few Twitter tirades two days ago constructing false binaries (i.e. why men -- always men -- look to QT to relive the shit nostalgia from their youth don't get half so excited for Claire Denis or even James Gray).

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 12:52 (five years ago) link

That drifting, elegiac quality (which at times may recall his once-neglected, now-classic Jackie Brown) is the film’s great strength

v encouraging sentence

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 12:53 (five years ago) link

I wish people would stop this "once neglected" twaddle. It got good reviews, did well in theaters, did better on VHS/DVD; lots of critics at the time said it was his best movie.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 12:55 (five years ago) link

Yeah, there's no such thing as a "neglected" Tarantino movie, unless they mean that the Pulp Fiction-worshipping frat ape contingent didn't like it as much as his other shit, because it had recognizable human beings demonstrating realistic human emotions in it.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 13:00 (five years ago) link

Anyone who wants full spoilers: go digging in the Wiki entry's edit history.
― Simon H., Wednesday, May 22, 2019 2:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OK, that's officially even worse than anything I would have come up with.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, May 22, 2019 2:29 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how indeed is it possible for somebody to be so far up his own ass

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 May 2019 13:09 (five years ago) link

v otm

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link

xp

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link

I was gonna make a crack about 'neglected' in this context basically meaning 'a QT film that cannot be easily perpetuated in the public consciousness via the medium of Halloween costumes' but now I feel like I absolutely must do Max Cherry this year.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 May 2019 13:14 (five years ago) link

that climax is 100% unsurprising, eh

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 May 2019 00:55 (five years ago) link

There's a great movie to be made about the Manson family that focuses on the psychological path of the women.
― полезные дурак (Sanpaku), Wednesday, July 12, 2017

It turns out that movie is Mary Harron's Charlie Says, written by long term collaborator Guinevere Turner (American Psycho, The Notorious Bettie Page). Heard about it on today's Film Comment podcast, where Harron reveals that she was only green lit after Tarantino's film was announced.

despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Thursday, 30 May 2019 02:31 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Ten films to see before you see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood:

https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/quentin-tarantino-movies-influenced-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood/

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 20 July 2019 06:22 (five years ago) link

Ten films on television? Pffft. Here's what he's showing on 35mm double features as warmup for the One Day In 1969 flick:

9/10 June: [part of 12 days programming of gay & lesbian film]
The Killing Of Sister George (1968, Beryl Reid and Susannah York have a relationship breakdown)
The Sergeant (1968, Rod Steiger tries to bang PFC John Phillip Law)

1969 in JUNE:

12/13:
The Wrecking Crew (1968 Matt Helm joint starring Dean Martin & Sharon Tate – newly-struck print)
Hammerhead (1968, Sony Archive print)

14/15:
2001: A Space Odyssey [1968, no double feature]

16/17:
Once Upon A Time In The West [1968, no double feature]

18: Gary Lockwood double feature
Model Shop (Jacques Demy)
They Came To Rob Las Vegas (1968)

19/20:
Lady In Cement (1968 noir starring Sinatra)
Pretty Poison (1968 Lorenzo Semple Jr. / Tony Perkins / Tuesday Weld joint)

21/22:
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice
Cactus Flower

23/24:
Sweet Charity [no double feature]

25:
There’s A Girl In My Soup (1970)
The Love God?

26/27:
Krakatoa East Of Java [IB Tech print]
The Boston Strangler (1968)

28/29:
Bullitt (1968)
Pendulum (George Schaefer directing George Peppard and Jean Seberg)

30/01:
The Sterile Cuckoo (Pakula / Liza)
3 In The Attic

1969 MIDNIGHTS:

June 15:
Journey To The Far Side Of The Sun (d. Robert Parrish)

22:
Candy (d. Christian Marquand, w. Terry Southern)

29:
Alice’s Restaurant (d. Arthur Penn)

1969 KIDDIE MATINEES:

June 1&2:
The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes (Robert Butler directing Kurt Russell, 16mm)

15/16:
The Green Slime (Kinji Fukasaku, 16mm)

22/23:
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (d. Ken Hughes, w. Dahl, Fleming)

29/30:
The Reivers (d. Mark Rydell, 16mm)

NEW HOLLYWOOD / MOVIE STARS IN JULY

2:
The Mad Bomber (starring Vince Edwards, 1973, 16mm)
Moving Target (starring Ty Hardin, 1967, 16mm)

3/4: George Maharis double feature
The Happening (1967, Sony Archive print)
Land Raiders (1970)

5/6: Raquel Welch double feature
Fantastic Voyage (1966)
100 Rifles (1969)

7/8: Ann-Margret double feature
Murderer’s Row (1966)
Kitten With A Whip (1964)

9: Ed ‘Kookie’ Byrnes double feature
Any Gun Can Play (1967)
Wicked, Wicked (1973)

10/11: Ed ‘Kookie’ Byrnes double feature
The Secret Invasion (1964)
Darby’s Rangers (1958, 16mm)

12/13: Jane Fonda double feature, both Sony Archive prints
Cat Ballou (1965)
The Chase (1966)

4/15: Tab Hunter double feature, both Sony Archive prints
Gunman’s Walk (1958)
They Came To Corduba (1959

16:
A Bullet For Pretty Boy (starring Fabian, 1970)
Horror House (starring Frankie Avalon, 1969)

17/18 TRIPLE FEATURE:
Sweet Kill (starring Tab Hunter, 1972)
Soul Hustler (starring Fabian, 1973, 16mm)
Sweet Saviour (starring Troy Donahue, 1971)

19/20: Natalie Wood double feature
Gypsy (1962)
This Property Is Condemned (1966)

21/22: Fabian double feature
Ride The Wild Surf (1964)
Thunder Alley (1967, 16mm)

23: William Smith TRIPLE FEATURE
C.C. And Company (1970, 16mm)
The Losers (1970)
Hollywood Man (1976)

24: George Hamilton double feature
Evel Knievel (1971)
Jack Of Diamonds (1967, 16mm)

WEDNESDAY MATINEES in JUNE: ‘60s HITCHCOCK on IB Tech prints
The Birds
Marnie
Torn Curtain
Topaz

WEDNESDAY MATINEES in JULY: ‘60s BOND on IB Tech prints
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

MONDAY MATINEES JUNE: BRAD PITT
Interview With The Vampire
Se7en
The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford
Ocean’s Eleven

MONDAY MATINEES JULY: LEO DiCAPRIO
Inception
This Boy’s Life
The Quick And The Dead
The Basketball Diaries
The Aviator

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 20 July 2019 09:28 (five years ago) link

Once Upon A Time In The West [1968, no double feature]

What cowardice is this

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Saturday, 20 July 2019 09:33 (five years ago) link

I think u guys need a nu thred as there won't be any Manson murders

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 July 2019 11:30 (five years ago) link

The Wrecking Crew (1968 Matt Helm joint starring Dean Martin & Sharon Tate – newly-struck print)

the WASTE

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 July 2019 11:31 (five years ago) link


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