An awful shower altogether - vote for the worst member of the Irish diaspora

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System, Thursday, 30 May 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

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System, Friday, 31 May 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

1 vote for Piers Morgan though?

gyac, Friday, 31 May 2019 06:55 (five years ago) link

Brogues gallery

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 31 May 2019 06:59 (five years ago) link

have to say id question most of this list tbh

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Friday, 31 May 2019 07:54 (five years ago) link

Murdoch's "Scottish" surely?

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 31 May 2019 09:15 (five years ago) link

Certainly a lot more than he is Irish.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 31 May 2019 09:19 (five years ago) link

yeah thats the first one to jump out

morgan, not having, diaspora needs not to be so avowedly of the new nation- nb this isnt a hard and fast rule obv but it fuckin is when the new nation is tory

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Friday, 31 May 2019 10:48 (five years ago) link

I maintain that Michael Flatley is the correct answer.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:50 (five years ago) link

hes a sure qualifier at least

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Friday, 31 May 2019 10:50 (five years ago) link

Pretty sure "Tory" is an Irish derivation tbf

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 May 2019 11:08 (five years ago) link

key point remains

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Friday, 31 May 2019 11:26 (five years ago) link

Well sure

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 May 2019 11:35 (five years ago) link

tbh I didn't vote because every time I clicked on someone who wasn't Murdoch (mostly Brendan O'Neill tbh) my brain went "but obviously Murdoch is *worse*" but it felt weird picking Murdoch when I didn't even know he had anything to do with Ireland until this thread

anyway he doesn't come close to most entrants on this list but I just wanted to record somewhere that I get v confused when I see posts from former UKIP MEP Patrick O'Flynn on Twitter and think "why does this person with an Irish name have such UKIPpy takes on Brexit"

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 31 May 2019 11:45 (five years ago) link

morgan, not having, diaspora needs not to be so avowedly of the new nation- nb this isnt a hard and fast rule obv but it fuckin is when the new nation is tory

Ní thuigim?!

gyac, Friday, 31 May 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link

morgan isnt diaspora

but not because he's a cunt

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Friday, 31 May 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

Seems a good moment to remind everyone I’m Irish. pic.twitter.com/Tb8Rl4gUYt

— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) March 17, 2018

mark s, Friday, 31 May 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link

not sure murdoch has ever made claims of any connection so i'm not sure why anyone would preemptively claim him

mh, Friday, 31 May 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link

Murdoch's an outstanding choice for a "worst member", but as for "Irish diaspora", not so much.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

Definitely the worst member of the Irish-English-Scottish diaspora.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link

He is diaspora ffs, he is from the UK and has a dad from Ireland

gyac, Friday, 31 May 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

Sorry that’s re Morgan not Murdoch!

gyac, Friday, 31 May 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

"Elisabeth Murdoch was born in Melbourne on 8 February 1909, the third daughter of Marie Grace de Lancey (Forth) and Rupert Greene. Her grandfather, William Henry Greene, was an Irish railway engineer (later one of the three Commissioners of Victorian Railways) who emigrated to Australia and married Fanny, the fourth of the 10 daughters of George Govett.[1] Her mother's ancestors were Scottish and English; one of her maternal great-grandfathers was a lieutenant governor in the West Indies.[2] Elisabeth was educated at St Catherine's School in Toorak, and at Clyde School in Woodend.[3] She married Keith Murdoch, 23 years her senior, in 1928 and inherited the bulk of his fortune when he died in 1952."

mark s, Friday, 31 May 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

The obvious question is does being an engineer for an Irish railway make you Irish, especially if your surname is Greene?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

The next obvious question would be, does having just one maternal great-grandparent make you part of the Irish diaspora?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link

Only if you've read Ulysses in its entirety.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link

late write-in for joyce tbrr

mark s, Friday, 31 May 2019 19:50 (five years ago) link

The obvious question is does being an engineer for an Irish railway make you Irish, especially if your surname is Greene?

― A is for (Aimless), Friday, May 31, 2019 11:32 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

greene is an irish surname (can also be an english one, but that's fairly common)

part of my family are harleys, also a name that can be english, but they're irish catholics from donegal. some anglicization going on, as with greene I'm sure

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:57 (five years ago) link

grian (ag spalpadh)

gyac, Friday, 31 May 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

I'm an O'Dowd with a dropped O, which was as far as my dad's anglicisation went, probably because despite him having an impressive skill set/experience in building and as a fitter, he wouldn't have stood a chance in the jobs market against someone without an O in front of their name in 60's/70's England.

calzino, Friday, 31 May 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link

#beannaithe i wasn't included in this poll

Trϵϵship, Friday, 31 May 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link

late write-in for joyce tbrr

― mark s, Friday, May 31, 2019 3:50 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fp btw

Trϵϵship, Friday, 31 May 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

me too

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 June 2019 07:25 (five years ago) link

If I did this again I’d leave out Murdoch and put in Ed Sheeran

gyac, Saturday, 1 June 2019 09:32 (five years ago) link

all these ruses to protect brendan

mark s, Saturday, 1 June 2019 09:50 (five years ago) link

he must be ok really cos he's loosely connected with ilm darlings stereolab.

calzino, Saturday, 1 June 2019 09:57 (five years ago) link

ilm is spiked i will never delet

mark s, Saturday, 1 June 2019 10:11 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

Claire Fox dodged a bullet here.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link

Yeah there’s loads of people I could have included here - she still wouldn’t have won though

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

I've only just found out that Paul "Guido Fawkes" Staines belongs on this list!

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

Indeed, worthy omission. He lives there I think.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:52 (four years ago) link

his mum from a w/c Dublin background his dad an Indian immigrant and a sometime member of the Fabian Society. It was obv all the father's fault imo!

calzino, Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:53 (four years ago) link

Interesting how many hideous right wing wankers in the UK have Irish (Catholic) ancestry, the Living Marxism/Spiked crew is riddled with them.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link

xp is his dad actually Indian cos he’s described as “anglo-Indian” and his name sounds British

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:00 (four years ago) link

(Just to be on the safe side I checked Dominic McKenzie Cummings - belongs in the Scottish wanker camp).

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link

xp

aye possibly a lot more of the British Raj in him than Indian

calzino, Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:06 (four years ago) link

Just read this thread back and it was some pretty funny work all round

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Margaret Hilda Roberts was born on 13 October 1925, in Grantham, Lincolnshire.[5] Her parents were Alfred Roberts (1892–1970), from Northamptonshire, and Beatrice Ethel Stephenson (1888–1960), from Lincolnshire.[5][6] Her father's maternal grandmother, Catherine Sullivan, was born in County Kerry, Ireland.[7]

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

Sorry that’s too far back for her to count

mardheamac (gyac), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

Yeah not hanging this one on us

Anyway- kerry

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 December 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link


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