So Lynn died, I was wondering if they'd all be around for this one.
And what of the other 12 participants? Well, the passage of time has brought death and illness to some. “This time we lost Lynn, who died in 2013. It was hard. But we have made a true documentary about these lives that is also a document of the times. The clothes and the buildings all change with the people.”
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 June 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link
It'd be nice if they could re-edit all of them to remove the recaps (to a greater extent) as a "new series"
― Mark G, Monday, 3 June 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
God, this is a tough watch now. Sue was a ray of light as ever.
― Alba, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
I found it easier to watch than the 49 up one. The loss of youth must upset me more than the decline into decrepitude, I guess.
― Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 06:49 (four years ago) link
i watched 7-49 over the span of a few days and it was a surreal but amazing experience.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
Imagine the experience would be similar to watching either the Apu or Antoine Doinel films consecutively, also to a certain extent Boyhood.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
The skip 30sec button is v useful for those recaps.
I found marathoning them to be such a powerful experience, seeing people age in unexpected ways as if you're in a Victorian time machine.
― closed beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
The second episode dips in interest considerably, with a rather dull run of Bruce, Jackie and Lynn (rip).
― Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link
oops - and Peter (who I seem to have nearly forgotten already)
― Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
bruce was a bit dull yes and peter's terrible band is terrible but i liked when jackie was telling apted off, plus lynn worked near where i live so that was good also, spotting shots of bethnal green etc
― mark s, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
Nothing dull about Jackie and Lynn imo
― Alba, Thursday, 6 June 2019 04:44 (four years ago) link
Apted maybe should have followed up Peter's comment about leaving the Labour party rather than just do the standard "What do you think about Brexit?" but yes, Peter not very fertile ground. It's a shame they've questioned the value of carrying on the series, on the grounds that it would descend into "covering people just getting older". That we characterise the experience of post-retirement years as that is maybe something the Up series could challenge.
― Alba, Thursday, 6 June 2019 04:55 (four years ago) link
Just realised laat night that Suzy has dropped out this time, skewing the gender split even more.
― Alba, Thursday, 6 June 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link
Yes, that's a shame. It would have been good to see. She must struggle in particular with seeing the same clips brought out.
I'm questioning my own sensitivity, as Jackie and Lynn do and did have interesting lives with their high points and tragedies. Lynn's work was a meaningful achievement and struggle and it was good to see it recognised. And it was sad to see her family grieving her at the end.
But I did find something very flat about the overall presentation in this episode that left me dissatisfied.
― Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 6 June 2019 07:31 (four years ago) link
Suzy's clips from 21 Up are amazing, and I can understand that her real life is always going to be a bit too normal and will always be compared to that time, so can understand if she's out.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 June 2019 08:29 (four years ago) link
lol i finally checked the wikipedia page to find out more abt the -- as i had completely misremembered it -- quite a few ppl who had dropped out over the years, only to discover that it's just two (charles and suzy) plus lyn obviously. apted's feud with charles (who is a documentary film-maker) is funny.
― mark s, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
Peter showing up again to promote his band was the best shit ever.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
again!
― mark s, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
I meant in 56, to be clear
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
haha ok, in that case i meant "twice!"
― mark s, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
Peter showing up again to promote his band was the best shit ever.― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, June 6, 2019 10:34 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, June 6, 2019 10:34 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My favourite thing about this was imagining the months of persuasion it took from the other members of the band
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
Is the next one the last? Calling the whole thing '7 to 70' or something and then leaving it would be.. quite good?
― piscesx, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
apted has said he like to still be doing it for 84up (when he will be 99)
― mark s, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
stuff happens to people after age 70 iirc
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
Great third episode.
― Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
Where is this available in the US?
― nickn, Thursday, 6 June 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
1st episode is on youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR2_Ym4nkJw
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 June 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link
This guy has everything 7 through 49 if you're looking to catch up
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYoC-f99Vb37jfNe6SOGCqw/videos
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 June 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link
Thanks. I'm not even sure I saw the last one, seems like much more than 7 years have passed.
― nickn, Thursday, 6 June 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link
RIP
― dean bad (map), Friday, 8 January 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link
did not know he directed so many other movies
― dean bad (map), Friday, 8 January 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link
Oh man
― SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SF (stevie), Saturday, 9 January 2021 08:35 (three years ago) link
last Feb, saw the trailer for 63 Up in a cinema and winced just to think of how Brexity some of the subjects must be now. obv it never came out, and now my window to catch up via torrent has been extended from six years to "indefinite."
― shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 9 January 2021 08:47 (three years ago) link
I don't remember a huge amount of focus on Brexit, though it is mentioned.
― mirostones, Saturday, 9 January 2021 13:34 (three years ago) link
I actually thought there was a pretty pronounced emphasis on Brexit, certainly contemporary politics. The installment kind of sets one person up to be a leaver but then reveals them as a remainer. They may even have some bad things to say about Trump, specifically. For sure the one living in America has stuff to say about Trump. Then another one they set up as a Tory prig they reveal to be a generous philanthropist who works for immigrant rights. Anyway, this installment I found particularly moving, as everyone from director to subjects are getting older and/or ill. A couple of subjects are angry and/or confrontational with Apted, iirc. Anyway, lots of turns and surprises, as usual.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 January 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link
Hardly anyone in the UK has ever had anything good to say about Trump - Leavers, Tories, you name it. Republican presidents tend to not to be too popular in the UK.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:21 (three years ago) link
Well, yeah. I just mean the installment definitely and frequently addresses current politics, and iirc the guy invokes Trump specifically in the context of Brexit and why he voted remain. But maybe I am confusing/conflating him with the guy living in the US who is explicitly asked about Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link
Aw shit. I've had the UK blu-ray of the series up through 63 but haven't worked out how to actually play it yet, so I still haven't seen the latest installment. I've meant to re-watch through all of the earlier ones first, as I haven't seen any of them since 56 came out.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 9 January 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link
I just said this on the obituary thread, but while they should probably end the series now Apted has passed, I'll be genuinely sorry not to be able to check in with the "cast" of this show and see what's happening to them, and where their lives have gone. It truly is one of the most remarkable and consistently moving things I have ever experienced, though I'm sure a great deal of that is up to how Apted approaches the challenge of making the show, and the way he deals with his subjects' awareness of the fact that they are subjects of a running documentary series that is a cultural phenomenon - like, he manages to mostly negate it in as much as it would affect the intention of the show, but where the framework does become the subject, or the weirdness of growing up under the world's gaze, he does so in a way that is ultimately enlightening.
― SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SF (stevie), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
while they should probably end the series now Apted has passed, I'll be genuinely sorry not to be able to check in with the "cast" of this show and see what's happening to them
70 And Out
― shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link
I'm guessing he was some of the way along on the next one.
― SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SF (stevie), Saturday, 9 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link
I'd be surprised if he hadn't groomed someone to be his successor. 63 is no age for the series to end.
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link
He was just a production assistant or w/e on the first one, it'd make sense for the team to do a final one without him.
― shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
Haven’t seen 63 Up yet but we watched all of the series one after the other earlier in 2020 and it was extremely disorienting to go through human lives that fast. Can’t say I would recommend it; I felt mildly seasick after they got to middle age. I loved the series and having watched it but the watching itself brought its own issues apparently.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/14/movies/michael-apted-up-series-future.html
Claire Lewis, who started as a researcher on “28 Up” and later became a lead producer, said that Apted had always been “very proprietorial” about the series. But she recalled that on the press tour for “63 Up,” as it became clear that the director was becoming more frail and forgetful, he told a Q. and A. audience, “I suppose she could do it,” gesturing to Lewis.“I could carry it on,” Lewis said, adding that it would come down to the subjects’ assent and the health of the crew. The cameraman, George Jesse Turner, and sound engineer, Nick Steer, have been with the program since “21 Up,” from 1977; the editor, Kim Horton, joined for “28 Up.”“None of us are spring chickens — we’re all geriatric, honestly,” Lewis said, citing her own age as “70-ish.” “We’re going to need an ambulance, if we ever did it again, to take us all around. I think we’ll just have to say we’ll wait and see.”Asked if she would participate without Apted, Bassett began to cry. She agreed that Lewis, who’d long had the job of keeping in touch with the cast between shoots, was the logical successor. (Walker concurred and was more enthusiastic about continuing.)“70 and 7 do have a good symmetry,” Bassett said. “It would definitely have to be the last one for everybody.”
“I could carry it on,” Lewis said, adding that it would come down to the subjects’ assent and the health of the crew. The cameraman, George Jesse Turner, and sound engineer, Nick Steer, have been with the program since “21 Up,” from 1977; the editor, Kim Horton, joined for “28 Up.”
“None of us are spring chickens — we’re all geriatric, honestly,” Lewis said, citing her own age as “70-ish.” “We’re going to need an ambulance, if we ever did it again, to take us all around. I think we’ll just have to say we’ll wait and see.”
Asked if she would participate without Apted, Bassett began to cry. She agreed that Lewis, who’d long had the job of keeping in touch with the cast between shoots, was the logical successor. (Walker concurred and was more enthusiastic about continuing.)
“70 and 7 do have a good symmetry,” Bassett said. “It would definitely have to be the last one for everybody.”
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link
Aw, ta.
― shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link
I felt guilty hoping they would do 70, because I feel like nobody owes me that, but hearing that it sounds like maybe it will happen really warms me.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:23 (three years ago) link
I absolutely understand if it ends now or at 70 but I do think it’s a shame. I remember hearing Apted being quite dismissive of the value of it going on too long, but I think our society is so bad at differentiating ages over 65. You could still easily live for 30 years, and I think those different phases of later life are definitely worth exploring, even if this can’t be the avenue for it.
― Alba, Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:29 (three years ago) link
28-up (millennium version) on bbc1 tonight
― koogs, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
RIP Nick Hitchonhttps://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/movies/nicholas-hitchon-seven-up-dead.html
― jaymc, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 00:58 (nine months ago) link