2020 Democratic presidential primary

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Elizabeth Warren Spends Evenings Tutoring Underperforming Candidates On Creating Comprehensive Policy https://t.co/dzPupnyQGy pic.twitter.com/RAAnAf02k3

— The Onion (@TheOnion) June 6, 2019

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link

haven't been following the gravel saga too closely. i didn't realize that teenagers really ARE running his campaign, sorta

love the Gravel teens

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 7 June 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link

that gravel teens NYT mag story i posted above is really, really good btw. honestly i just posted the image at the top because i thought it was funny, but it turns out to be a wonderful portrait of the teens (a mix between bill haverchuk on freaks and geeks, max fischer on rushmore, and kramer) wrapped around a critique of the center-left that they oppose and their own naiveté

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 June 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link

would be really into a short-lived saturday morning cartoon called Gravel And The Gravel-Teens, btw

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 June 2019 16:11 (five years ago) link

A drink called the Gravelteeni

Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 7 June 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link

Should be like the Alfred Hitchcock and the Three Investigators books, where the teens check in with Gravel at the end of each political adventure

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 7 June 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link

the actual Gravel is a crank with weird/bad associations sadly typical of aging leftists, but the Gravel teens rule

Simon H., Friday, 7 June 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

doesn't gravel think 9/11 was an inside job?

Trϵϵship, Friday, 7 June 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link

he definitely palled around w/ truthers at least

Simon H., Friday, 7 June 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

I took one of those "which candidate do you match up with best" online quizzes back in the day and got Gravel; I spent the rest of the day being sad

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Friday, 7 June 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link

the Gravel campaign just seems cringey to me in exactly the same way it was cringey when Hillary tweeted "delete your account", but everyone who hated the latter seems to love the former?

soref, Friday, 7 June 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link

Hillary tweeting "delete your account" was a center-right boomer cynically appropriating youth culture in service of neoliberal goals.

The Gravel tweets are leftist teens appropriating the image of a boomer politician in service of socialist goals.

Disliking the first and appreciating the second seems totally intellectually consistent to me.

OneSecondBefore, Friday, 7 June 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link

The only thing those two phenomena have in common is twitter

Simon H., Friday, 7 June 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link

worst venn ever

Hunt3r, Friday, 7 June 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

saw one spicy meatball tweet from gravel re biden and did wonder whether he was maybe a little unhinged... it makes sense now

||||||||, Friday, 7 June 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link

wow

Beto O’Rourke in Knoxville, Iowa, being introduced by a local Dem who calls him “a blank slate waiting to be filled by our hopes and dreams.” pic.twitter.com/JvZkEwrk1R

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 7, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link

local Dem is antifa

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link

"but in a good way"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

er, xp

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

Also to his credit, Gravel has this fucking amazing campaign video many moons ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZdAB4V_j8

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:37 (five years ago) link

iowa caucus goers poll:

New CNN/DMR poll in Iowa:

Biden 24%
Sanders 16%
Warren 15%
Buttigieg 14%
Harris 7%
Klobuchar 2%
O’Rourke 2%
Bennet 1%
Booker 1%
Castro 1%
Delaney 1%
Gabbard 1%
Inslee 1%
Yang 1%
Bullock <1%
Gillibrand <1%
Moulton <1%
Ryan <1%
Swalwell <1%
Williamson <1%
de Blasio 0%
Messam 0%

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) June 9, 2019

also lol people haaaaaate bill de blasio

Net Favorables

Warren +54
Harris +51
Biden +50
Buttigieg +49
Sanders +46
Booker +37
O'Rourke +34
Klobuchar +27
Castro +20
Gillibrand +14
Inslee +12
Delaney +10
Swalwell, Bullock, Bennet, Hickenlooper +9
Yang +4
Gabbard, Ryan +2
Moulton +1
Messam -7
Williamson -8
De Blasio -25

— Kenton (@KentonTilford) June 9, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 9 June 2019 05:14 (five years ago) link

I think it's time for most of the names on this list to drop out, but of course that won't happen

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 June 2019 05:16 (five years ago) link

As long as de Blasio and warren stay in I’m fine with anyone else dropping out

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 9 June 2019 05:21 (five years ago) link

not sure why ppl who don't live in NYC hate de Blasio

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 June 2019 13:14 (five years ago) link

too ambitious, needs to be taken down a peg

j., Sunday, 9 June 2019 13:20 (five years ago) link

somebody on my fb feed posted that they live in ohio and will vote third party if biden is the nominee, and i was like, yeah, we really have to take seriously the idea that someone like warren will boost turnout over a more traditional candidate, and then in the comments her friends were evenly split between "why is the MSM ignoring Tulsi" and "why is the MSM ignoring Marianne Williamson," so basically, I just wanted to notify you guys that I actually saw a Marianne Williamson primary supporter in nature

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 9 June 2019 13:57 (five years ago) link

Hell yeah elizabeth warren

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link

Should could win iowa if this is where she is now

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link

this thing nearly over yet?

||||||||, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link

i think as more people are seeing warren on the stump she's gaining traction. still flummoxed by buttigieg's rise. who's his audience? if he flames out, where do his supporters flock to?

xp

hollow your fart (m bison), Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

also o'rourke needs to drop out now and start his senate race, i cant believe what a little dweeb he is

hollow your fart (m bison), Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link

Texans are overwhelmingly in favor of him dropping

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link

if he flames out, where do his supporters flock to?

they flock to the other studious valedictorian-type in the race, elizabeth warren

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:35 (five years ago) link

Moulton? Messam?

are 80s hockey players running for president? who are these ppl?

im inclined to believe that. the two buttigieg supporters i know are positive on warren.

hollow your fart (m bison), Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link

i don't understand why de blasio is running. mayor of new york city should be a big enough job for anyone. it's not like he's solved all the issues here.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link

he could run in 2024 after his term's up if he really wanted to.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:41 (five years ago) link

he shouldnt tho

hollow your fart (m bison), Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:43 (five years ago) link

definitely not. him an beto annoy me because there are other things for them to be doing.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link

Moulton might have been a really interesting JFK-like candidate in 4-8 years. Centrist rep from Mass, young decorated former Marine officer that might draw off a bunch of lean-Rs. Within party negatives for supporting (any) other leadership over Pelosi and the other septuagenarians, but that's not seeming like such a terrible idea ATM. Like Beto, should seek the Senate first, and like Beto, too centrist for this moment of the pendulum swing.

despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link

for the love of god can we bury this fantasy of centrist dems appealing to republicans WE HAVE A BIMODAL DISTRIBUTION IN US POLITICS NO ONE IS A CENTRIST EXCEPT FOR THE BELTWAY AND SILICON VALLEY AKA THE WORLD'S WORST PEOPLE

hollow your fart (m bison), Sunday, 9 June 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link

im inclined to believe that. the two buttigieg supporters i know are positive on warren.


focus group of one here supporting your hypothesis.

I wouldn’t call myself a Buttigieg supporter, but I’m certainly among those who came away impressed early. I like him as a presence in the race. He doesn’t pound tables, he doesn’t cast himself as the hero who will save us from some spun-up Big Bad, he sells his version of “we’re better than this” more convincingly than Booker...

Come primary, I’m very likely to vote for Warren.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 9 June 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

the Gravel campaign just seems cringey to me in exactly the same way it was cringey when Hillary tweeted "delete your account", but everyone who hated the latter seems to love the former?

― soref, Friday, 7 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The jokes are a lot, lot better, and that's for a start.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link

per a recent Pareene retweet, de Blasio is bored with NYC and just wants to get the hell out of town

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 June 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link

...since he's already given affordable housing to broke-ass cancer patients like me, obv

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 June 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link

lol I love this detail:

Gravel remained skeptical — very, very skeptical — but bit by bit, they could sense that he might cave. “Eventually we wrote him a memo,” Oks said, taking a sip of his fourth and final Coke.

“He’s definitely of the memo era,” Williams said, claiming he first heard the word on “The West Wing.” “He asked us if we could fax it to him!”

After Gravel read the memo, he agreed. The Teens registered with the F.E.C., and once the filing hit the web, the bots started tweeting and the journalists came calling.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link

how can you smash capitalism if you drink that much coca cola tho

Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 9 June 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link

you throw lots of coca cola bottles at it

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 17:03 (five years ago) link

Everybody knows it’s Pepsi you start the revolution with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwvAgDCOdU4

breastcrawl, Sunday, 9 June 2019 17:11 (five years ago) link

still flummoxed by buttigieg's rise. who's his audience?

white, middle class, liberal, college-educated, church-goers who are uncomfortable with 'anger' and who place a high value on 'nice' and 'calm' and 'reasonable'. I'm pretty sure there are some of these in Iowa.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 9 June 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link


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