2020 Democratic presidential primary

Should could win iowa if this is where she is now

this thing nearly over yet?

i think as more people are seeing warren on the stump she's gaining traction. still flummoxed by buttigieg's rise. who's his audience? if he flames out, where do his supporters flock to?

xp

also o'rourke needs to drop out now and start his senate race, i cant believe what a little dweeb he is

Texans are overwhelmingly in favor of him dropping

if he flames out, where do his supporters flock to?

they flock to the other studious valedictorian-type in the race, elizabeth warren

Moulton? Messam?

are 80s hockey players running for president? who are these ppl?

im inclined to believe that. the two buttigieg supporters i know are positive on warren.

i don't understand why de blasio is running. mayor of new york city should be a big enough job for anyone. it's not like he's solved all the issues here.

he could run in 2024 after his term's up if he really wanted to.

he shouldnt tho

definitely not. him an beto annoy me because there are other things for them to be doing.

Moulton might have been a really interesting JFK-like candidate in 4-8 years. Centrist rep from Mass, young decorated former Marine officer that might draw off a bunch of lean-Rs. Within party negatives for supporting (any) other leadership over Pelosi and the other septuagenarians, but that's not seeming like such a terrible idea ATM. Like Beto, should seek the Senate first, and like Beto, too centrist for this moment of the pendulum swing.

for the love of god can we bury this fantasy of centrist dems appealing to republicans WE HAVE A BIMODAL DISTRIBUTION IN US POLITICS NO ONE IS A CENTRIST EXCEPT FOR THE BELTWAY AND SILICON VALLEY AKA THE WORLD'S WORST PEOPLE

im inclined to believe that. the two buttigieg supporters i know are positive on warren.

the Gravel campaign just seems cringey to me in exactly the same way it was cringey when Hillary tweeted "delete your account", but everyone who hated the latter seems to love the former?

― soref, Friday, 7 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The jokes are a lot, lot better, and that's for a start.

per a recent Pareene retweet, de Blasio is bored with NYC and just wants to get the hell out of town

...since he's already given affordable housing to broke-ass cancer patients like me, obv

lol I love this detail:

Gravel remained skeptical — very, very skeptical — but bit by bit, they could sense that he might cave. “Eventually we wrote him a memo,” Oks said, taking a sip of his fourth and final Coke.

“He’s definitely of the memo era,” Williams said, claiming he first heard the word on “The West Wing.” “He asked us if we could fax it to him!”

After Gravel read the memo, he agreed. The Teens registered with the F.E.C., and once the filing hit the web, the bots started tweeting and the journalists came calling.

how can you smash capitalism if you drink that much coca cola tho

you throw lots of coca cola bottles at it

Everybody knows it’s Pepsi you start the revolution with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwvAgDCOdU4

still flummoxed by buttigieg's rise. who's his audience?

white, middle class, liberal, college-educated, church-goers who are uncomfortable with 'anger' and who place a high value on 'nice' and 'calm' and 'reasonable'. I'm pretty sure there are some of these in Iowa.

People who are pissed at Beto for not running for Senate should be pleased with Buttigieg for doing the very best thing he can be doing to help him pick up a Senate seat for Dems in Indiana in 2022.

Kirsten Gillibrand, bartender at a Des Moines gay bar.

it's like the chopped-and-screwed version of seven other, better stunts

i didn't expect gillibrand to be a leading candidate, but i didn't expect her to end up in <1% land either. she must be really bad at campaigning or something

silby was prescient when he created this thread.

Her (KG) starpower is surprisingly lacking.

I’m still waiting for Tim Kaine to enter and shake things up. He’s a firebrand!!

I know you were joking, and it's already June, but I can't think of anyone else who could get in at this stage and actually upset the apple cart except for Stacey Abrams. I wonder how much support she'd siphon off from Biden, Harris, and Warren.

The way Harris's numbers look, it might actually sink her bid altogether.

Warren could make me excited tbh

i don't understand why de blasio is running. mayor of new york city should be a big enough job for anyone. it's not like he's solved all the issues here.

― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:38 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why single him out are the others unemployed rn or

JF why do you think people would be enthusiastic for a Stacey Abrams presidential bid? It would be a huge Beto move for her to jump in the national race instead of focusing on GA.

1. I don't think she will.
2. She is BELOVED in a way that Beto never has been.
3. See item 1.

Beto was pretty beloved when he was running against Ted Cruz!

For a total of 4 weeks. Abrams' popularity has had long legs. Unlike Beto, the more people hear from her, the more they like her.

I can't believe Beto was the major guest on one of the Sunday morning talk shows. The fucker is polling at 2% in Iowa. Until he hits double digits no one should talk to him about anything unless Warren and/or Harris has explicitly refused an interview request.

and even then

Yep

NY Times did a 'fact check' column on Harris and she was 5/5 on lies

What does the Times consider a lie, though, is the question. I'm inclined to not give a fuck.

Maybe judge for yourself

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/us/politics/fact-check-kamala-harris.html

Tim Kaine should enter the race just so he and Beto can get in a vicious fight about who likes the Replacements more

I can’t pretend I’ve dug into them but Beto has at least put out some concrete immigration and climate change policy stuff, so I’m willing to at least not treat him like a joke for the time being.

multiple do to Alfred:

I missed ordering drinks from Gillibrand by about an hour!

the real question is whether she kept to official bar policy: every drink’s a double at the saddle

in this case, saying shit counter to the facts, unp

no wonder the Clinton ppl love her

I thought it was because half of Clinton’s 2016 staff work for her so the message is composed to hit all the same old notes