2020 Democratic presidential primary

Everybody knows it’s Pepsi you start the revolution with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwvAgDCOdU4

still flummoxed by buttigieg's rise. who's his audience?

white, middle class, liberal, college-educated, church-goers who are uncomfortable with 'anger' and who place a high value on 'nice' and 'calm' and 'reasonable'. I'm pretty sure there are some of these in Iowa.

People who are pissed at Beto for not running for Senate should be pleased with Buttigieg for doing the very best thing he can be doing to help him pick up a Senate seat for Dems in Indiana in 2022.

Kirsten Gillibrand, bartender at a Des Moines gay bar.

it's like the chopped-and-screwed version of seven other, better stunts

i didn't expect gillibrand to be a leading candidate, but i didn't expect her to end up in <1% land either. she must be really bad at campaigning or something

silby was prescient when he created this thread.

Her (KG) starpower is surprisingly lacking.

I’m still waiting for Tim Kaine to enter and shake things up. He’s a firebrand!!

I know you were joking, and it's already June, but I can't think of anyone else who could get in at this stage and actually upset the apple cart except for Stacey Abrams. I wonder how much support she'd siphon off from Biden, Harris, and Warren.

The way Harris's numbers look, it might actually sink her bid altogether.

Warren could make me excited tbh

i don't understand why de blasio is running. mayor of new york city should be a big enough job for anyone. it's not like he's solved all the issues here.

― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:38 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why single him out are the others unemployed rn or

JF why do you think people would be enthusiastic for a Stacey Abrams presidential bid? It would be a huge Beto move for her to jump in the national race instead of focusing on GA.

1. I don't think she will.
2. She is BELOVED in a way that Beto never has been.
3. See item 1.

Beto was pretty beloved when he was running against Ted Cruz!

For a total of 4 weeks. Abrams' popularity has had long legs. Unlike Beto, the more people hear from her, the more they like her.

I can't believe Beto was the major guest on one of the Sunday morning talk shows. The fucker is polling at 2% in Iowa. Until he hits double digits no one should talk to him about anything unless Warren and/or Harris has explicitly refused an interview request.

and even then

Yep

NY Times did a 'fact check' column on Harris and she was 5/5 on lies

What does the Times consider a lie, though, is the question. I'm inclined to not give a fuck.

Maybe judge for yourself

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/us/politics/fact-check-kamala-harris.html

Tim Kaine should enter the race just so he and Beto can get in a vicious fight about who likes the Replacements more

I can’t pretend I’ve dug into them but Beto has at least put out some concrete immigration and climate change policy stuff, so I’m willing to at least not treat him like a joke for the time being.

multiple do to Alfred:

I missed ordering drinks from Gillibrand by about an hour!

the real question is whether she kept to official bar policy: every drink’s a double at the saddle

in this case, saying shit counter to the facts, unp

no wonder the Clinton ppl love her

I thought it was because half of Clinton’s 2016 staff work for her so the message is composed to hit all the same old notes

I can't keep track of who works for whom anymore, and why it matters. It's a neolib economy, a woman's gotta eat and order craft cocktails.

still think Harris has a chance to be the nominee, and the new york times "fact check!" bullshit didn't change my mind about her

at all

although I would be very happy if it was Warren

PolitiFact is a horseshit site that weaponizes pedantry and the fact that the Times hired a PolitiFact stooge to do her nitpicky bullshit for them reflects much more poorly on them than on Harris. That article was standard NYT “hobble any Dem showing actual potential” bullshit.

I know you were joking, and it's already June, but I can't think of anyone else who could get in at this stage and actually upset the apple cart except for Stacey Abrams. I wonder how much support she'd siphon off from Biden, Harris, and Warren.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, June 9, 2019 6:30 PM (three hours ago)

what...makes you say this?

What does the Times consider a lie, though, is the question. I'm inclined to not give a fuck.

― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:55 PM (one hour ago)

^ a good democrat

unperson is right about that though I think

what does weaponizing pedantry mean

I know you were joking, and it's already June, but I can't think of anyone else who could get in at this stage and actually upset the apple cart except for Stacey Abrams. I wonder how much support she'd siphon off from Biden, Harris, and Warren.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, June 9, 2019 6:30 PM (three hours ago)

what...makes you say this?

― k3vin k., Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:27 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was just a reply to the joke about Tim Kaine, ffs. I do feel her presence would shake things up, though, because she would immediately get a ton of press in ways people like Tim Ryan and Bill de Blasio haven't and the DNC itself loves her.

We have twenty other people shaking things up who would do well to shake thing sup in their Senate and local House races, among whom is Stacey Abrams.

We are in June 2019 more likely to retake the White House than to win back the Senate, a prospect which should terrify Democrats, and if the DNC had any strategy it would be prefacing every fundraising email with this terrifying possibility.

Y'all, I'm not saying she should or will enter the race for the presidency. I'm just saying she's the only person left out there who'd make waves. I was super disappointed she opted not to chase David Perdue out of the senate, but I'm not the boss of her.

shes not though because no one know who she is

Sure, ok.

I see, Harris lying about 'always fighting against the death penalty' is bullshit. as you were

That article was standard NYT “hobble any Dem showing actual potential” bullshit.

fwiw they've run them on Sanders and other candidates too. Because *adults* know that ALL pols lie, exaggerate, dissemble, etc.

How pathetic is Kamala Harris? Even DiFi signed this exceedingly modest resolution opposing Israeli land theft, while Madame Prosecutor refused...https://t.co/jZqnsF1dUN

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) June 9, 2019

okay i'm backing eric swalwell now

Eric Swalwell: "To my fellow candidates, I consider us all a part of being the Avengers. The Republicans in 2016, that was the Hunger Games. We are in this, and with your help and support, to save this country we love so much."

— Emily Larsen (@emilyelarsen) June 9, 2019

did someone post his "please clap" moment here cause it's incredible

I know virtually nothing about the Avengers but Swalwell is definitely Hawkeye, right? aka the useless one?

also his merch rules

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-fdvi4n7ufr/images/stencil/500x659/products/41/25/ericSwalwell_shoelaces__02337.1554502048.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on