2020 Democratic presidential primary

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Tim Kaine should enter the race just so he and Beto can get in a vicious fight about who likes the Replacements more

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 June 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link

I can’t pretend I’ve dug into them but Beto has at least put out some concrete immigration and climate change policy stuff, so I’m willing to at least not treat him like a joke for the time being.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 10 June 2019 01:08 (five years ago) link

multiple do to Alfred:

I missed ordering drinks from Gillibrand by about an hour!

mh, Monday, 10 June 2019 01:35 (five years ago) link

the real question is whether she kept to official bar policy: every drink’s a double at the saddle

mh, Monday, 10 June 2019 01:35 (five years ago) link

in this case, saying shit counter to the facts, unp

no wonder the Clinton ppl love her

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2019 01:36 (five years ago) link

I thought it was because half of Clinton’s 2016 staff work for her so the message is composed to hit all the same old notes

mh, Monday, 10 June 2019 02:01 (five years ago) link

I can't keep track of who works for whom anymore, and why it matters. It's a neolib economy, a woman's gotta eat and order craft cocktails.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2019 02:04 (five years ago) link

still think Harris has a chance to be the nominee, and the new york times "fact check!" bullshit didn't change my mind about her

at all

Dan S, Monday, 10 June 2019 02:18 (five years ago) link

although I would be very happy if it was Warren

Dan S, Monday, 10 June 2019 02:23 (five years ago) link

PolitiFact is a horseshit site that weaponizes pedantry and the fact that the Times hired a PolitiFact stooge to do her nitpicky bullshit for them reflects much more poorly on them than on Harris. That article was standard NYT “hobble any Dem showing actual potential” bullshit.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 10 June 2019 02:26 (five years ago) link

I know you were joking, and it's already June, but I can't think of anyone else who could get in at this stage and actually upset the apple cart except for Stacey Abrams. I wonder how much support she'd siphon off from Biden, Harris, and Warren.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, June 9, 2019 6:30 PM (three hours ago)

what...makes you say this?

k3vin k., Monday, 10 June 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link

What does the Times consider a lie, though, is the question. I'm inclined to not give a fuck.

― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:55 PM (one hour ago)

^ a good democrat

k3vin k., Monday, 10 June 2019 02:30 (five years ago) link

unperson is right about that though I think

Dan S, Monday, 10 June 2019 02:35 (five years ago) link

what does weaponizing pedantry mean

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 10 June 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link

I know you were joking, and it's already June, but I can't think of anyone else who could get in at this stage and actually upset the apple cart except for Stacey Abrams. I wonder how much support she'd siphon off from Biden, Harris, and Warren.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, June 9, 2019 6:30 PM (three hours ago)

what...makes you say this?

― k3vin k., Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:27 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was just a reply to the joke about Tim Kaine, ffs. I do feel her presence would shake things up, though, because she would immediately get a ton of press in ways people like Tim Ryan and Bill de Blasio haven't and the DNC itself loves her.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 June 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link

We have twenty other people shaking things up who would do well to shake thing sup in their Senate and local House races, among whom is Stacey Abrams.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2019 02:56 (five years ago) link

We are in June 2019 more likely to retake the White House than to win back the Senate, a prospect which should terrify Democrats, and if the DNC had any strategy it would be prefacing every fundraising email with this terrifying possibility.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2019 02:57 (five years ago) link

Y'all, I'm not saying she should or will enter the race for the presidency. I'm just saying she's the only person left out there who'd make waves. I was super disappointed she opted not to chase David Perdue out of the senate, but I'm not the boss of her.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 June 2019 04:11 (five years ago) link

shes not though because no one know who she is

k3vin k., Monday, 10 June 2019 04:16 (five years ago) link

Sure, ok.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 June 2019 04:35 (five years ago) link

I see, Harris lying about 'always fighting against the death penalty' is bullshit. as you were

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2019 06:18 (five years ago) link

That article was standard NYT “hobble any Dem showing actual potential” bullshit.

fwiw they've run them on Sanders and other candidates too. Because *adults* know that ALL pols lie, exaggerate, dissemble, etc.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2019 06:21 (five years ago) link

How pathetic is Kamala Harris? Even DiFi signed this exceedingly modest resolution opposing Israeli land theft, while Madame Prosecutor refused...https://t.co/jZqnsF1dUN

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) June 9, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2019 11:50 (five years ago) link

okay i'm backing eric swalwell now

Eric Swalwell: "To my fellow candidates, I consider us all a part of being the Avengers. The Republicans in 2016, that was the Hunger Games. We are in this, and with your help and support, to save this country we love so much."

— Emily Larsen (@emilyelarsen) June 9, 2019

God may judge you but his sins outnumber your own. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 June 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link

did someone post his "please clap" moment here cause it's incredible

Simon H., Monday, 10 June 2019 13:05 (five years ago) link

I know virtually nothing about the Avengers but Swalwell is definitely Hawkeye, right? aka the useless one?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 10 June 2019 13:08 (five years ago) link

if "swallowed" isn't his campaign theme song i'm not interested

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Monday, 10 June 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link

c'mon feel the ericmentum #swallwelling in your heart

God may judge you but his sins outnumber your own. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 June 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link

oh man I had no idea #swalwelling was a thing

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 June 2019 13:54 (five years ago) link

it sounds like a medical condition

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 10 June 2019 13:55 (five years ago) link

if your #swallwelling continues for more than four hours, seek immediate advice from a physician

God may judge you but his sins outnumber your own. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 June 2019 14:04 (five years ago) link

so Swalwell began a meme by posting pictures of his own feet
sounds like a qualification

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 June 2019 14:16 (five years ago) link

Swallwell addressing the fervid foot fetish contingent of the Dem primary base iirc

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link

what does weaponizing pedantry mean

i've had irritations with politifact over how they've stated the "fact" under interrogation, creating an easy set-up to address it in a way that's contrary to the common understanding. some things that they present for evaluation make no sense without the particular context of the original quote, so through omission you gain the ability to create context

I can't keep track of who works for whom anymore, and why it matters.

for me, it's realizing that my friends who attended/organized backyard gatherings for Clinton in 2015 are being contacted by the same people to arrange events for Harris, now

mh, Monday, 10 June 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link

I think I'm completely done thinking about this shit for a couple weeks, or at least until I'm trying to drive home from work and there's one of these candidates blocking the street again

mh, Monday, 10 June 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link

more likely to retake the White House than to win back the Senate, a prospect which should terrify Democrats, and if the DNC had any strategy

i honestly believe that nothing terrifies the current leaders of the democratic party more than being in charge of both chambers & the WH and *actually* having to govern. things are so much better when gee whiz your hands are just tied but hey there's a villain to fundraise off of

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 10 June 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link

also animates the GOP tbh

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2019 15:12 (five years ago) link

I was gonna say, there's an axis where "Democrats and Republicans are the same" pans out

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

imagine a world with leaders who want to govern

(hashtag elizabeth warren)

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Monday, 10 June 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link

Blomentum!

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

poll

Here is the walk-out song playlist for the candidates at the Iowa Democrats Hall of Fame campaign yesterday. The songs were chosen by the campaigns. pic.twitter.com/Aphykxt322

— Lissandra Villa (@LissandraVilla) June 10, 2019

mookieproof, Monday, 10 June 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link

Yang wins

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link

Not if Sanders used the Public Enemy track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC6slqBRZsY

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link

unsure if Gravel can still walk but based on his advisors I can only assume his tune would be "Goop on ya Grinch"

Simon H., Monday, 10 June 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

xposts -- eh i'd say the GOP is more than happy to exercise their power when they have it, polls/ pop opinion of their objectives be damned.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

that's just too many fuckin candidates

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

Who says they're fuckin

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link


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