Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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.@JoeBiden in Ottumwa, Iowa: "I promise you if I'm elected president, you're going to see the single most important thing that changes America — we're going to cure cancer."

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) June 11, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

um

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

wow, that is something

I've not particularly enjoyed the jibes at older candidates mental faculties, but that from Joe either down the line out there craziness or super cynical. What was the reaction like? does it say, I can;'t click through

anvil, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

we're going to cure cancer

So, Joe Biden finally found his signature issue. iirc, Nixon also made this claim. It's evergreen.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

sounds like joe knows the cure but won't tell us unless he wins? not unlike trump's plan for syria

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link

i wonder if there was a massive federal push for this -- i'm talking the same focus that went toward going to the moon, or developing the atomic bomb -- if it could actually happen. ditto AIDs. and ditto renewable energy that is truly cheap.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link

life imitates art, if your definition of art is expansive enough to include a 2003 chris rock is president movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d60GozCNi2g

Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link

i don't hear any other candidates talking about curing cancer! they must be PRO-CANCER!

Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link

i wonder if there was a massive federal push for this

First, there has been a massive federal push for cancer research since 1972. It has done some good, but is far from "curing cancer" after nearly 50 years.

Landing a person on the moon and getting them back safely was almost entirely a logistical problem. Complex, sure, but it boils down to moving something from 'here' to 'there' and back again. Curing cancer apparently boils down to understanding the myriad workings of the human body at the molecular level, then intervening at the molecular level to fix whatever is misfiring. This, in an organism with tens of billions of cells, many of them highly specialized.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link

under joe biden, we'll cure cancer, but only if you can afford it

Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link

ottumwa is a massively depressing place iirc
he walzes in there and promises to cure cancer?
wtf

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link

Treesh renewable energy is already cheaper than fossil fuels

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link

waltzes i mean
smh @ this guy

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link

i apprec the personal attention, Joe, but no

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link

means testing for cancer cures
tax advantaged savings accounts for cancer treatment

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link

"Biden is going to cure cancer" is going to be the new "Al Gore invented the internet."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link

ottumwa is a massively depressing place iirc

I almost choked laughing at this

mh, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link

imo marianne williamson should double down on this claim and appear in a town a little ways east of there and claim she's going to cure cancer RIGHT NOW through the power of group meditation

mh, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link

does no one else remember that barack obama, i think in the last year of his presidency, said biden was going to lead an initiative to cure cancer? i think during his last SOTU, maybe?

so yeah, biden's been working on this for 3 years now, he must be getting close

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:02 (five years ago) link

I read the last four letters as "stfu"

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link

America knows Ottumwa (if at all) as the home of MASH's fictional Radar O'Reilly

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link

he walzes in there and promises to cure cancer?

christoph waltz is very disappointed in you

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link

I’m disappointed in myself too!! MH — laughing bc it’s true??!! Jumping into Ottumwa and promising to cure cancer seems very snake oil sales, it’s so gross!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:17 (five years ago) link

we'll (attempt to) cure (some) cancer(s)!!

mh, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link

I think we can find some common ground with cancer once Trump is gone. Maybe we can compromise, convince it to stop killing kids.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 12:47 (five years ago) link

Here is Biden’s answer when I asked why he’s so confident that the Republicans who blocked the Obama-Biden agenda wouldn’t just block the Biden agenda if he beat Trump. pic.twitter.com/QKsRy3XdL3

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 11, 2019

flopson, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link

should've just said "because I'm white"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 15:29 (five years ago) link

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-national-poll-says-bidens-lead-over-trump-is-of-landslide-proportions/

i don't know shit about polling fyi

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link

Should be noted that the same poll also showed “landslide” margins for sanders, and to a slightly lesser extent warren and harris

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link

Also the leading polls said trump had a 2% chance of winninf or somethinf right until the end

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link

i remain confident that it is still june 2019

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link

this is all true

still, i'd rather see the democratic candidates up 7%+ in a national poll at this point, rather than down

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:00 (five years ago) link

saw two 'creepy joe' gaffes in the last 12 hours, one to a 13 year old girls brothers, saying they needed to 'keep boys away from her' and another where he chose to take a question from a woman in the audience because she was 'better looking' than the guy he was talking to

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link

are they gaffes if you know how bad it looks and do it anyway

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link

Also the leading polls said trump had a 2% chance of winninf or somethinf right until the end

― Trϵϵship, 12. juni 2019 17:54 (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not in 2016, no, statisticians who had no track record said this, but 538 said it was about 30% and tightening.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link

Also, it seems pretty clear that Biden is too old to be President. Even though he is not the oldest candidate. People age differently.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link

"X has X percent chance of winning" /= "X is not winning"

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

President Trump told aides to deny that his internal polling showed him trailing former Vice President Joe Biden in key states, according to a new report from The New York Times.

Later, when the polling in 17 states conducted by Tony Fabrizio leaked, Trump told aides to tell reporters that other data showed him doing better, according to the Times story written by Annie Karni and Maggie Haberman.

The polling reportedly showed Trump behind Biden in a number of the states he needs to take to win reelection, though the Times report did not identify them.

Beyond Trump's internal polling, a series of recent surveys have shown the president trailing Biden in several important states.

Last week, a Quinnipiac University poll found Biden 4 points ahead of Trump in Texas, a state Democrats haven't won in the presidential election since 1976.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

is it no surprise to me that people being so exposed to the asshole as pres for the last two years might have them considering that maybe their fence sitting vote for him was ill advised. anyone that was not hardcore MAGA has got to be over his shit , right ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link

he may not have lost a whole lot of support but it's hard to imagine how he could have possibly GAINED any over the last two years. and the margin was razor thin in 2016.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

the leading polls said trump had a 2% chance of winninf or somethinf right until the end

on Election Day, 538 said he had a 1 in 3 chance of winning

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

I just looked it up and it was 28%

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link

anyone that was not hardcore MAGA has got to be over his shit , right ?

i'm sure they are, but the full GOP + Fox + Breitbart + rightwing radio + white evangelical churches onslaught against the Democratic candidate hasn't started yet. soon, those people will be choosing between an extremely dumb and corrupt president vs the most communinist leftist socialist marxist radical eco-terrorist who may have also murdered someone and almost definitely set at least 2 or more of those big wildfires last year

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link

I feel the tiny sliver of low info voters in key states who thought Trump might be more liberal on certain issues than he turned out to be is going to be enough to make a difference this time around. At least I hope so.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link

I have a hard time envisioning him losing tbh. The entire right wing media is warmed up and ready to do things his way—in 2016 he didn’t have this level of propaganda behind him

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link

Don't forget that Democratic voters are likely to be more enthusiastic than the last cycle. if not because of the candidate they're voting for, then at least enthusiastically voting against Trump (and knowing that there is a very real possibility that he'll win this time)

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link

trump can't seem to get above 42% in any reelection poll ive seen

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:22 (five years ago) link

Incumbency is always a plus, but the GOP's keeping the Senate is more likely than Trump losing -- a grim outcome.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link

trump can't seem to get above 42% in any reelection poll ive seen

― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Wednesday, June 12, 2019 1:22 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think people were lying to pollsters last time because they were ashamed to say they were voting for him

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link


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