I have decided to embrace Boris as the victor because whoever wins this contest will be out by Christmas as they fail to deliver on their election promises. None of them are changing the EU position or the parliamentary arithmetic, and none of them imo represent either a banhammer for the whips to use or a seductive enough prospect for opposition defectors. And being humiliated by being such a short lived PM is exactly what the deflating football deserves, because he is one of the most incompetent politicians to have held a front bench post for some time, on either side and by Christ there's stiff competition.
With an attempt at an impartial eye, it's easy to understand why he's popular with the party though. Professional politics is almost solely about charisma, leadership to a lesser degree so, and it's unquestionable that he does possess a large amount of it. What the party recognise is that it's needed to challenge the charismatic alternative, which even people within the Labour party sometimes refer to as a cult. I have no doubt there will be large elements of overlap in the 'BORIS HE IS A LEGERND' and people singing 'ooh Jeremy corbyn' at glasto Venn diagram and maybe the trick is to get them to identify with the first group again.
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 17 June 2019 12:48 (five years ago) link
Just thinking, it has been quite a while since I encountered any "Boris is a total ledge" types. They seem to have either changed their minds, shut up, or been filtered out of my bubble.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:00 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I was just thinking of a an ex-coworker (and friend of a friend) had basically voted for lolboris for Mayor.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:09 (five years ago) link
Sorry but Corbyn is NOT charismatic, at all. He’s literally a granddad pottering around on the allotment and the “cult” label is thrown about by people who’ve never understood the source of his appeal. Otherwise good analysis
― stress tweeting (gyac), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:15 (five years ago) link
Not that I would want to puncture this particularly innovative twist on Horseshoe Theory but 11 years have passed since peak lol Boris legernd. That's several political lifetimes and most of the people involved are probably running start-ups now and pretending that they're going to vote LibDem next time.
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:16 (five years ago) link
JC is basically a british archetype familiar to anyone who has 1 ever been on an allotment or 2 been on holiday in britain in those areas where people go on “walking holidays” ie very much not charismatic
― ||||||||, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link
You can sing "ooh bloke on allotment" to Seven Nation Army as well.
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:23 (five years ago) link
He's not Jesus but he has the same initials
― Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:23 (five years ago) link
thing about lol Boris legernd voters is that they're... a bit dim, and pretty impervious to acual political developments, so I think a lot of that support will still be there through sheer inertia.
― Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link
"he's just like a geography teacher" was a colossal snobbery as well as a tell, really -- so important to hate and despise and sneer at teachers in the coming settlement, let me just write that down
― mark s, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:30 (five years ago) link
the geography teacher has always been a slightly confused archetype
― ogmor, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:31 (five years ago) link
Idk I’m definitely sure he’s been tarnished by the last few years. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Jeremy_Corbyn - re Corbyn, check out his correlations lol
― stress tweeting (gyac), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:33 (five years ago) link
His VSO posting: teaching geography in Jamaica.
― suzy, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:33 (five years ago) link
Specifically geography as well, which conveys its own frumpiness even if it isn't especially accurate.
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:33 (five years ago) link
The Parliamentary arithmetic will be different under a new leader, one way another. Shifts in allegiance, antipathy, degree of trust, desperation to avoid an early general election. I've no idea how the fallout will go down, but the arithmetic will be different because some of the actors are going to act differently.
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Boris_Johnson
Slightly less well thought of than Boris, it appears
Xpost
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:38 (five years ago) link
And May.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:40 (five years ago) link
OTHER THINGS LIKED BY JEREMY CORBYN FANS: Discogs
OTHER THINGS LIKED BY BORIS JOHNSON FANS: Shandy Bass
― Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link
"Other things liked by Boris Johnson fans" reads like a list of references to be incorporated in the next Alan Partridge series.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link
Arithmetic only different by single figures imo unless an option which gets cross bench support emerges. Three years on nobody has changed opinion substantially and certainly not to the point where they're going to shift to hard leave from soft remain.
Biggest chance of changing the arithmetic is Rory who is at least honest about flogging the WA again. The centre ground is the only place to get the numbers because it's the only one where you can sell the idea of influence over phase 2 - either to achieve a least worst outcome to bring in soft remain or a free trade model which might get some outliers on leave.
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:44 (five years ago) link
OTHER THINGS LIKED BY JEREMY CORBYN FANS: Karl Marx
Checkmate, tankies.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link
boris is going to hastily put a few biro marks on TM's WA, and somehow enough head-bangers will buy it in parliament. Then starts a new chapter of his legend and everything is almost reset to 2010 only this time flea olympics!
― calzino, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link
Good that Ian Blackford went in on Johnson directly calling him racist in the Commons and refusing to retract when Bercow advised him to.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 11:48 (five years ago) link
IB is himself a nasty piece of work of course
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 11:50 (five years ago) link
His muslamic grandfather would be amazed to see him rise to being called a racist in the House of Commons
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 11:51 (five years ago) link
a few years ago I was reading about how Turks didn't even get surnames until the Ataturk era when they could choose their own and lots of people choose daft ones like Testicle and Stupid for the laugh. Unfortunately Boris senior would have been already moved to the UK by then, and I think a Boris Tasak (testicle) might have anglicised his name.
― calzino, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:10 (five years ago) link
His real name's not far off though!
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:16 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/19/zaghari-ratcliffe-husband-says-boris-johnson-made-mistakes
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:26 (five years ago) link
I like how 120 and counting Tory MPs are cool with the whole Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe think and the racism, why would they be impediments to leading the government?
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:34 (five years ago) link
I can remember FS boris with some hero talk about how her situation would be sorted soon and any additional misunderstandings with Iran would be jolly well sorted out next week .. erm about 2 years ago.
― calzino, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:44 (five years ago) link
Didn’t take long for the wheels to fall off the Boris bus https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 21 June 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link
All cool and normal
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 June 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link
The neighbour said they recorded the altercation from inside their flat out of concern for Symonds. On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my fucking laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.Symonds is heard saying Johnson had ruined a sofa with red wine: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt. You have no care for money or anything.”The neighbour said: “There was a smashing sound of what sounded like plates. There was a couple of very loud screams that I’m certain were Carrie and she was shouting to ‘get out’ a lot. She was saying ‘get out of my flat’ and he was saying no. And then there was silence after the screaming. My wife, who was in bed half asleep, had heard a loud bang and the house shook.”
― turn me on and press my teabag (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 June 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link
what would the former housing czar, the honorable Sir Roger Scrutton, say about this.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 June 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link
she could have had a knife. appropriate measures imo
― imago, Friday, 21 June 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
When contacted by the Guardian on Friday, police initially said they had no record of a domestic incident at the address.
*hmm emoji*
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 June 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link
Hang on is that the woman the Daily Mail told me last week had turned Boris into an avatar of Jesus?
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 June 2019 18:42 (five years ago) link
Huge profile of her in the Times this week, too.
― suzy, Friday, 21 June 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link
it's almost as if
well we know, don't we? we know
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 June 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link
In recent weeks the couple have been sharing a flat in a converted Victorian house. It has been reported that they intend to move into Downing Street together if he is elected leader.
"Police were today called to an address in Westminster over concerns for the welfare of etc etc"
Larks a-plenty coming our way once this pitiful turd ascends to his slippery throne.
― Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Friday, 21 June 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
xpstop moaning about how our presumed right-wing elective dictatorship is being presented to us and give us a loud phwoah!
― calzino, Friday, 21 June 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
Johnson's neighbour for Chancellor imo - will help keep him on his toes
― nashwan, Saturday, 22 June 2019 11:00 (five years ago) link
ah Symonds neighbour that should be
"she's been given credit for… his new hairdo"
Yesterday: Boris is the beloved former London mayor, who made a Labour city love him through his easy charm and wit.Today: perfectly normal bits of London are ‘hostile territory’ where the former mayor can’t safely reside. https://t.co/4EfR241s4o— [Restricted] Animal (@politic_animal) June 22, 2019
― mark s, Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:07 (five years ago) link
He needs a safe space like 10 Downing street.
'Love' this bit too: "She’s seen as his conscience on the environment… pro Brexit for animal welfare reasons."
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:34 (five years ago) link
sounds like Gove got to her first
― nashwan, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:11 (five years ago) link
Tory remedy for a red wine stain: take a glass of club soda and beat your mistress— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) June 22, 2019
― calzino, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link
"I can’t think of anyone after the Crash in 2008 who stuck up as much for the bankers as me. I stuck up for them day in and day out." - Boris at the hustings earlier, I know he's just talking the dead-eyed membership, but gl running into a GE on with this type of speak - which didn't sound very prepared.
― calzino, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link
"I can’t think of anyone after the Crash in 2008 who stuck up as much for the bankers as me. I stuck up for them day in and day out." - Boris Johnson todaySays it all.— Labour Press Team (@labourpress) June 22, 2019
get this on a big vote labour poster
― ||||||||, Saturday, 22 June 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain
Churchill’s self-obsession was tempered by a huge compassion for humanity, or at least white humanity, which Johnson confines to himself.
Blinding double zing from Max Hastings
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link