Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

labour held it by campaigning on local issues.

Labour held it because of the first past the post system.

this shafted UKIP in the past also, in non-EU elections = no ground game or young eager foot-soldiers

(also CHUKTIG on 27% or whatever in a poll then having no actual membership or anyone at all voting for them lol)

Fwiw in Australia our PMs are regularly defenestrated and there's similarly no requirement to go to an election. Like the UK, we theoretically elect our local MP and it's up to them to choose a PM. People tend to think of it being presidential, voting for a leader, but its not how it actually works.

(also CHUKTIG on 27% or whatever in a poll then having no actual membership or anyone at all voting for them lol)

still funny, never not gonna be funny

also feels like it happened about four years ago

sadiq khan destroyed, now almost certain to resign in shame

Liam Gallagher has criticised London’s mayor, Sadiq Khan, over rising knife crime in the capital and expressed his fears for the safety of his children.

The former Oasis singer, 46, said: “Every time you wake up in the morning, there’s some 16-year-old kid been knifed to death. I’ve got kids that age, out and about and that, doing their thing, living, being young. That freaks me right out – it does worry me. I’ve got teenagers.”

Gallagher, who lives in north London, has four children, including his sons Gene, 17, and Lennon, 19. He also has two daughters – Molly, 22, and six-year-old Gemma.

He singled out Khan for apparent inaction in the knife-crime crisis on BBC Breakfast on Monday.

He said: “I’d have a word with that mayor – he seems to not be doing a good job, all them kids getting knifed and all that. The only thing that ever comes out of his mouth is, ‘London is open.’ What, open for knife crime and dying and stuff?”

let's ask a mindless cretin all the big questions!

i believe in a unique mixed FPTP/PR system where you swap it around after the results are in to primarily best serve a marxist Corbyn govt and secondly to fuck over Farage and tory libdems the hardest.

I mean i almost kind of understand why the BBC might want to interview Liam Gallagher on an oldies light entertainment programme in 2019 but i'm fucking mystified how anything he has to say ends up on the news

his daughters really got off lightly when liam picked names huh

i'm fucking mystified how anything he has to say ends up on the news

Clickbait.

I regret that BBC radio's news service feels it needs to offer clickbait

Doubt LG votes or pays his full share of tax so can STFU

former ilx poster localgarda destroyed, now almost certain to resign in shame

Like his kids don’t have Uber accounts to go everywhere.

Initially parsed it as 'lawful good' and was suitably confused.

lol bg

LG going full-on 'For Britain' between now and five years seems eerily inevitable.

sounds good (its the continuity I was talking about from Enoch Powell to Ed M a few weeks ago).

Yeah, it did bring that discussion to mind - a continuity of structural racism propped up by both parties that May (and now Johnson) is the only the latest iteration of, if you're black in Britain.

To push back against that tho, one thing Olusoga said has changed is that when he was growing up in the 80's and faced racist abuse people's reactions were "well that's just the way it is", open racism was a socially acceptable position. It no longer is, and Olusoga is worried that this might change back - which is I think akin to what people fear from a Boris govt. Of course the structural stuff happens regardless, but open bigotry being acceptable or not does have a real impact on people's lives.

many xps but UK democracy problems are a lot bigger than just parliamentary system + FTPA + FPTP. The fact that a minority PM under this system still can use things like royal ascent and statutory measures is truly insane. Unfortunately failure of PR referendum and taste for "strong leadership" means this will not change. Or I dunno maybe we don't really want democracy as a country, except in one very specific case a few years back.

An event so democratic that it has deferred the need for further democracy sine die.

britain is abt as undemocratic as it's possible to be while still being able to claim with a more or less straight face that it's A Democracy

If anything there's been a decrease in democracy from the high water mark somewhere in the 1960s/70s - more centralization of government and political party mechanisms, more quangos, the EU nah just kidding let's be cool

xp I think you're underestimating the ability of people who win elections on a mandate of 96% of the electorate to keep a straight face.

(but yeah)

apropos of nothing being currently discussed - why can't i find more than one picture of sajid javid with hair

what is he hiding

jeremy.......... careful

Jeremy Corbyn asks Theresa May: "What would be worse: crashing out with no deal in October, or putting this issue back to the people for a final say?"

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) June 24, 2019

bUt LaBouR's aNtIsEmItiSM

Nearly half of Conservative party members would prefer not to have a Muslim prime minister, a survey into the scale of Islamophobia in the party has suggested.

The poll, carried out by YouGov for the anti-racism group Hope Not Hate, also found that more than two-thirds of Tory members believe the myth that parts of the UK are under Sharia law, and 45% think some areas are not safe for non-Muslims.

Half of the party’s members think that Islamophobia is a big issue, but only 8% believe it is a problem within the party, the survey found.

more than two-thirds of Tory members believe the myth that parts of the UK are under Sharia law, and 45% think some areas are not safe for non-Muslims

lol what

where’s that from ? BBC ?

wake up tracer, you can't visit bridlington nowadays without pledging allegiance to isis

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/24/tory-members-would-not-want-muslim-prime-minister-islamophobia-survey

no can you post the BBC link please. it’s where most people get their news from. interested in their framing

what

my twitter is really acting up

can someone post the most up to date vn of this search? last hit on mine is showing as 2017 for some odd reason
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=from%3Abbclaurak%20islamophobia&src=typed_query

(he's doing a 'bit')

(also not actually reading the twitter searches he's posting)

Calm, good-natured country, posting as it always does.

Britain used to be a moderate, good-natured, and fundamentally calm country, which celebrated its practical judgment and resistance to utopianism. Three years of culture war have basically driven it insane https://t.co/bE7AcqMWDT

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) June 24, 2019

sorry yes I missed her one other tweet on the topic. I’m sure it’s fine though - maybe if I search her tweets for baroness warsi I’ll have more luck...

dunty.......... you did brexit

I'm sorry the last 3 years have been beastly after 1000+ of people knowing their place and not rocking the boat

is dunt thinking or a different nation named britain or

all aboard

It seems that Labour have decided today is the day to start the process for trigger ballots... MPs being asked to confirm if they intend to stand again, with a deadline of July 8.

— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) June 24, 2019

dunty declared Dr Liam Fox "one of the adults in the room" yesterday. he is beyond a joke.

NEW: Chief Whip Julian Smith establishes a three line whip for the week of the 22nd July, as a vote of no confidence is anticipated from Labour.

A Labour source had told me earlier today that a VONC was planned for Thursday 25th July. pic.twitter.com/rjTacUUE0w

— Ben Gartside (@BenGartside) June 24, 2019

good luck uk

labour doing a bit too I see

Labour are furious about the lack of coverage of this by BBC and others today. Labour source: "You'd think it would be all over the news. No wonder Tories are in denial about racism in their party, they're getting a free pass from most of the UK media..." https://t.co/IxjHmb2bJR

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) June 24, 2019

"Labour source" might get more coverage if they went on the record. I mean probably not, it's the BBC, but give it a try eh?

hmmm labour source gets enough traction from laura K and crew when she’s carping about the PLP meeting every week

caek makes a good point, why aren't they calling them on this in an on the record statement? I know it's bad form to call out racism now but still.

Got to have deniability in case racism makes a comeback

dunty declared Dr Liam Fox "one of the adults in the room" yesterday. he is beyond a joke.

"Things have deteriorated so far that Liam Fox is now one of the adults" was the line, in fairness.