^^^^Almost too obvious a point to make id have thought
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link
A lot of the stories about the films of Harvey Scissorhands have also been about brave directors trying to stand up to him, so in some way his fall might lead to some of his productions being re-evaluated.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
disagree completely with wins and drf but thats prob ok
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
re Harvey specifically, or just producers? there are endless stories of directors fighting Harvey re their content, and maybe two in forty years of him making a useful contribution outside of marketing
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
I think it's prob ok too but would be curious to hear you elaborate. You think audiences care about producers? xpost
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
90% of audiences don't care about directors either
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
I think for most people it would be like finding out that the head of a record company is evil (which, y'know), it wouldn't affect their opinion of the records
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
the work is the work
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
Yeah, my post wasn't saying anything about that either way tbf.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
not much cognitive dissonance at all w/ Spacey because he usually played villains, murderers, criminals, or creeps. totally different story with someone like Cosby.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link
Spacey isn't in any good movies
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link
makes things easy!
Swimming With Sharks is good. Moon too, but you don't have to look at him anyway.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
hes not any good in movies but hes bad in some good movies
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
Glengarry is good and he's good in it iirc.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
really good in GGGR and L.A. Confidential, good in Seven, excellent in The Ref, he's fine in The Negotiator (which is a decent late-'90s action flick, completely disposable but solid). Basically he was a perfect fit for certain roles which brought out his inherent prick qualities, he rarely played a total hero (The Negotiator being the only complete exception and even there it toyed a bit with his untrustworthiness, L.A. Confidential made him a hero for a minute after his selfishness cost someone their life but then...)
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
after he won his second Oscar (and arguably before, since American Beauty fits) he either turned into an unctuous martyr onscreen (Pay It Forward, The Life of David Gale) or went full asshole.
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
Baby Driver was dope
I watched Se7en for the first time recently and I thought it was p good and extremely gross
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
hes bad in ggr and all the others and baby driver is ass
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link
you hate everything tho
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
i dont know how that gets around im unabashedly enthusiastic about lots of stuff
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
god man have some self-respect
― j., Tuesday, 25 June 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link
I thought The Ref was good but didn't trust my memory. Glengarry is "good" but just too gross to spend time in, and I don't remember him in it
LA Confidential sucks, why even bother adapting mid-period Ellroy if you're going to be so basic. there are plenty of 150-pp pocket paperback potboilers he did earlier that let you put his name on the poster, and they're cheaper
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link
anyway to Dench's point:
Are we going to negate 10 years at the Old Vic and everything that he did [as artistic director]
1) sorry, yes, those years are #cancelled. the sole reason you can't buy a ticket to see Niamh Cusack and Ruth Negga in Playboy Of The Western World tonight is because we're fomenting a vendetta against Spacey, not because it was staged in 2011
2) "everything he did" includes widely-reported predation on teenage boys throughout his tenure, both at the time and after his official me-too-ing in 2017. aren't you saying we should negate this
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link
also zomg the theatre was owned and restored by Honest Ed Mirvish!
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link
A judge said the young man came from a good family, attended an excellent school, had terrific grades and was an Eagle scout. Prosecutors, the judge said, should have explained to the girl and her family that pressing charges would destroy the boy’s life. https://t.co/KYK1Bj3jXP— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 3, 2019
(it can be argued that a 16yo should never be tried as an adult . . . but if any deserve to be, it's this one imo)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
christ that whole story is awful
― Nhex, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
has anyone else watched the Hulu doc? idk why i watched it but i did. the interviews are essential; one thing that really stuck with me was an interview with "celebrity journalist" aj benza where he said that he had heard the rumors that actresses had "slept with" harvey to get their parts and he just assumed welp yeah that is how it is. the perniciousness and ease of digestion of this utter falsehood really reminded me how everyone is complicit with/to blame for rape culture. it's way deep in there.
also let's not kid ourselves, the 90s sucked.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link
the whole gossip industrial complex is designed to keep the status quo firmly in place. it’s even more apparent on newer outlets because the editing is so poor
― maura, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
i haven't paid attention to celebrity gossip in ages, i felt like it was sort of a bygone pastime -- is it still as popular as it was 15-20 years ago? erika rosenbaum's story hit esp hard because she describes a very relatable sensation of wanting to "take a risk" and also feeling deeply unsafe. ugh.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link
celebrity gossip powers the internet afaict
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
The authors of She Said gave a long (20 mins!) interview at of all places Morning Joe today.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link
100%. also US Weekly, People magazine and the like still circulate to millions
― Nhex, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link
really? i admit that i don't pay any attention to entertainment "news" (though i do read music stuff). all the 90s/early 2000s stuff in the doc seemed like a thousand years ago. i see the magazines in the checkout aisle and they all look grotesque.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
it’s a pernicious influence and it’s very much there. popbitch (!) has done some excellent digging on AMI (owner of enquirer etc) and its mucky dealings
― maura, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link
yup. nothing's changed, just the names and the royalty. a lot more reality show "stars" to cover if anything
― Nhex, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
the Lisa Bloom stuff is pretty disgusting
― omar little, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
the NY Post page 6 folks (current and former) still have a bit to answer for too.
Another reason there more be more smears ahead...Weinstein switched his legal team earlier this summer, and here's a profile of who he hired:
https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/February-2018/The-Defender/
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link
Regarding Rose McGowan, an early accuser, Bloom told Weinstein, “I feel equipped to help you against the Roses of the world, because I have represented so many of them.” She suggested a “counterops online campaign to push back and call her out as a pathological liar.” She educated Weinstein on “reputation management,” and encouraged him to stage preemptive television interviews, wherein he would invoke his deceased mother and claim that her passing had caused him to “evolve” on women’s issues.
― omar little, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link
placido out
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/arts/music/placido-domingo-met-opera-harassment.html
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link
1/Just In: Actresses Sarah Tither-Kaplan and Toni Gaal tell NPR in an exclusive interview that they are suing actor and filmmaker James Franco for sexual exploitation and fraud, stemming from their time involved in his Studio 4 acting school in Los Angeles.— NPR (@NPR) October 3, 2019
― Simon H., Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
Took long enough for that shoe to drop
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/robert-de-niro-sued-for-gender-discrimination-by-former-assistant.html
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
Pretty thrilling read by Ronan Farrow, investigating the two guys assigned to tail him in 2017, with two more parts on Black Cube coming this week,
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 7 October 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
Well here's a read (from Farrow's reporting partner at NBC).
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/how-nbc-killed-its-weinstein-story
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 October 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
At the time, I wondered if there was some sort of connection between NBC’s decision to stop me and Ronan from investigating Weinstein—a decision for which Oppenheim and Lack had offered no credible explanation—and the network’s rejection of any institutional responsibility for what Lauer had done. Weinstein was a staggeringly powerful man whose serial predation went on for years, in part because he was able to insulate himself via aggressive legal tactics that included payoffs and nondisclosure agreements. Could it be that NBC News knew it couldn’t risk having our reporting on Weinstein presented by a powerful news anchor with his own history of serial predation?I asked a former NBC executive that very question. Was our Weinstein story killed because NBC knew it had a Matt Lauer problem?“One thousand percent,” the former executive told me.
I asked a former NBC executive that very question. Was our Weinstein story killed because NBC knew it had a Matt Lauer problem?
“One thousand percent,” the former executive told me.
surprise surprise: AMI cited as Harvey's go-between, threatening to expose Lauer's multiple harassment, assault and rape cases in the Enquirer if NBC published on Weinstein
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
When Ann Curry departed NBC, it was clearly a very tension-filled thing, there was some clear issues she had w/Lauer and vice-versa. And now we know she went to NBC execs to report what she'd heard about his predatory behavior, and the one who was effectively forced out shortly thereafter was her.
― omar little, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
weak cowards
― El Tomboto, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
that story is appalling