2020 Democratic presidential primary

har dee har

or "Clinton was just implementing Obama's war crimes" yeah exactly

yeah, not a Warren fan on this palaver

Savage Mules, 2019 Edition https://t.co/vzfb8fMgAb

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) July 1, 2019

Probably should have followed the career paths of the other female black presidents

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, July 1, 2019 7:52 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://news.clickhole.com/shocking-the-average-female-ceo-only-makes-258-times-w-1825122315?_gl=1*148dnxz*_ga*YW1wLWhRRjQ2Y0tUMUVGcVNkSmp2Z2paYlBDTUVCVkFCSklXMEtVNnN0d3R2YXVmZ1VGNEg5VjNaTlpFN18zdlg0cEc.

"electable" is just "my favorite" in a lot of people's minds, but not everyone, so things like this are significant

Here’s another important finding: BIG shifts in who Democratic voters think is electable.

Biden drops from 70% to 57%
Warren jumps from 40% to 51%
Harris jumps from 39% to 49%https://t.co/b2VboAHnr0 pic.twitter.com/u8D1Z21hMy

— Kevin Robillard (@Robillard) July 1, 2019

what exactly is supposed to be offensive about that tweet from warren? xxpost

Presumably it's the new version of the Donald the Dove vs Hillary the Hawk narrative

just her repeating conventional DoD-funding 'wisdom'

yeah, Donald the Dove, kma

But that's the point though, right? Warren is the real warmonger.

It is offensive that the US government does more than occasionally smile and nod to NK in a distractedly friendly fashion, as they pass one another wordlessly in the hallway.

Morbs shares Perrin’s viewpoint that any Democrat who mentions “US security” and “our allies” is just another Forever Wars advocate

To be fair, we as a nation are still fully committed to the Forever Wars but I don’t see that changing until we either bring back the draft or run out of money, whichever comes first

Alternatively you could imagine a timeline in which China, Russia, Iran and North Korea all decide it’s more fun to play along than to consistently fuck with the unipolar status quo, to which I say lol

lol Beto (that poll).

can't stand these liberal warmongers always going on about evil monstrous shit like "diplomacy"

It’s just a code word for CIA black bag stuff man don’t you even read the web

say "diplomacy," do kabooming kids w/ drones

That was definitely Obama’s policy against the DPRK during his administration, yes I remember that clearly

xp How many North Korean kids have been killed by US drones so far this century?

That's a direct quote from Warren's platform, right?

xp

"human rights" from prospective presidents always makes me larf, sorta like "I'll say she is"

also I hope you war-librul patriots get to vote for the worst Dem possible

ie whoever gets the nomination

I am opposed to Forever War in principle but it's so firmly entrenched that I can't imagine it being dismantled by any foreseeable government. So I sort of factor it out of my evaluation of candidates, such as it is.

One thing is fairly certain, Morbs has fixed it so that he can never be disappointed in a president's conduct, by denying even the possibility of any outcomes apart from the worst he can imagine.

in morbs defense, the job of president comes with the near necessity of ordering murder both at home and abroad so it's tough to entirely cosign anyone who has a list of bodies on their resume

I think of it more like he's fixed it so that no matter who the nominee is, he can declare with a heavy heart and a totally clean conscience that he'll under no circumstances vote for them.

no, less than the worst can and does happen

Trump hasnt killed as many as Dubya yet

also Aimless, stfu

also Moodles, i vote in NY, which Trump will lose by 20+ pts again, so stfu

Yes, we're all aware of how your vote never counts

it doesn't, so u should be thankful eh?

i saw Tucker Carlson apparently said "killing is part of leadership," so even someone as stupid as a bone can accurately assess the role of POTUS now n' then

never wanna see "Tucker Carlson" and "bone" in the same sentence

talk about war crimes

I mean, congrats that you live somewhere that's reliably anti-Trump, but many of us live in places where that's not the case, yet plenty of people still buy into the same dumb ass rationalizations.

Xxp

i know i say "national primaries don't exist so ignore national polls" and "a 3% change is a tie" but this is obviously measuring a real change

New @CNN poll:

Biden 22%
Harris 17%
Warren 15%
Sanders 14%
Buttigieg 4%
Booker 3%
O’Rourke 3%
Klobuchar 2%
Castro 1%
de Blasio 1%
Gabbard 1%
Yang 1%
Bennet <1%
Delaney <1%
Gillibrand <1%
Hickenlooper <1%
Inslee <1%
Moulton <1%
Ryan <1%
Swalwell <1%
Williamson <1%
Bullock 0%

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) July 1, 2019

(biden down 10%)

surprised to see Pete at only 4%. not sure if it was the debate exchange on his police controversy in South Bend that's deflating him or if he's just not inspiring anyone.

either way, my main interest in these kinds of polls is Biden, so seeing him slide is very encouraging.

Wow it looks like Harris absorbed all of the fleeing Biden support

Pete and Beto are done

i don't think this poll tells you much more than biden/warren/sanders/harris are pretty much level and no one else is relevant. too much to hope all the 1%ers go but i'm hoping a few of these will clear the field.

bullock holding steady

Money will decide which of the bottom 75% drop out first

Harris only reached the top tier last week though so anything could still happen. xp

poor gillibrand

de Blasio unstoppable now!

gillibrand doing worse than gabbard is kinda crazy

Gillabrand doesn't have a cult

biden/warren/sanders/harris are pretty much level

& harris is the only one under age 70 :(

Warren is looking pretty spry for 70!

gillibrand's problem is that she gives off a distinct "playing a politician on tv" vibe

she would be a fantastic president in a disaster movie

whereas if Chuck Schumer was the president the movie wd be a short

biden/warren/sanders/harris are pretty much level

& harris is the only one under age 70 :(

― A is for (Aimless), Monday, July 1, 2019 3:38 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm no doubt projecting some here due to health of family members and ppl i've known, but am i the only one who feels like the difference between 70 and 77 is kind of huge? basically a 2 term presidency between them..