2020 Democratic presidential primary

lol listened to too many power ballads recently

Elizabeth A.B. Warrin’

Just got an FB sponsored ad to "...Win A Whiskey With Kirsten!", complete with a photo of a smiling Gillebrand hoisting a half-empty glass.

You can't make this shit up.

whippits with bernie or gtfo

IPAs and Indie with Beto

vegan meth with Marianne
hash with Beto

rails of coke with mike gravel

xp drop acid with marianne more like

fracking fluid with john hickenlooper

"just a puff, i dont want to be messed up driving home" with michael bennett

No Doz with Liz
Scotch Guard with Joe
Shoot BB Guns at Peasants with Amy

whippits with bernie

looool

Let's do mushrooms and talk about your Republican years. Were you more Rockefeller than Buckley? Did the New Right inspire you? Which faction did you support when the Young Americans for Freedom split over Vietnam at their 1969 convention in St. Louis? America wants to know! https://t.co/PHF4VNjqln

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) June 4, 2019

Molly with Kamala

if im mod, i delete all morbs' twitter embeds on sight

look at a homeless person through four layers of bulletproof glass with donald trump

I am opposed to Forever War in principle but it's so firmly entrenched that I can't imagine it being dismantled by any foreseeable government. So I sort of factor it out of my evaluation of candidates

hegemony's a hell of a drug

I know I'm exactly the same person I was however many years ago Perrin is talking about. What brilliant insight, this is why he's such a leading voice.

he's not saying that, p sure, but nice strawguy

fwiw I do not know Perrin personally as speculated above

the hallmark of any successful movement is rejecting anyone who wants to join because they weren't already part of the movement

morbz tho seriously, much love but you know that if we wanted to see every single thing Perrin and "Nixon" post, we could create twitter accounts and follow them right?

we come here to read your thoughts on things y'know

xxp, no, he's not saying she's the same person as she was then, just that it's somehow more useful to show-trial her for who she was then than discuss who she is now.

he's making some assumptions based on her Obamian bullshit

(and let's not even get to Israel)

I just assumed because you mostly post Pareene and Perrin, so I coupled that together.

Dr C, i have no relevant thoughts left

i found a great website for you, it's called ilxor.com

is that still up?

xxp, no, he's not saying she's the same person as she was then, just that it's somehow more useful to show-trial her for who she was then than discuss who she is now.

not to be all cap'n save-a-perrin, and i do think that warren is in the top tier of the current dem candidate field, but i do think it's... kinda weird that someone who was comfortably republican all through the horrors of the reagan years would jump ship in the mid-90s because the gop's approach to banking law was no longer acceptable

she has said she's "a capitalist to her bones"

...which makes AOC fans unquestioningly embracing EW kinda weird to me.

bg, it doesnt seem like she was very political back then and i can see someone who doesnt spend much time thinking about politics who is then confronted with it in their daily work start to question some of their own beliefs

we all just want the least garbage president possible, when you start canonizing any of these people you just set yourself up to get owned, even if they're not pieces of shit they're gonna say and do plenty of things you'd prefer they didn't.

We aren't electing the leader of the revolution. Why would you think that an American president is going to fill that role, as opposed to, at best, competent executor of the law? Morbius would be less tedious if he would keep that in mind.

fwiw I haven't ruled out voting for Warren

I don't think it's weird to find EW's long Republican phase weird

...which makes AOC fans unquestioningly embracing EW kinda weird to me.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, July 2, 2019 10:55 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

AOC has a lot of fans who would describe themselves as capitalist.

I had no idea Warren stayed a registered R til '96. Rather dubious.

Bob Dole was the last straw

tbf I registered as a Republican in 1996 because I wanted to attend a caucus in Iowa and the Dems had nothing going on that year

fwiw I haven't ruled out voting for Warren

gotta wait until she wins the nomination for that

I mean I'm currently planning to vote for Sanders when the OH primaries roll around, but in a ranked-choice scheme she's my second.

this is worth reading

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/12/elizabeth-warren-profile-young-republican-2020-president-226613

I had no idea Warren stayed a registered R til '96. Rather dubious.

I was a registered Republican until about a year ago (I'm now "unaffiliated"). I registered at a Frank Zappa concert and thought it would be funny to choose that team. Then I just left it alone, because it didn't affect who I actually voted for.

New Yorker profile addressed the same issues as the politico piece in a way that felt more measured and considerate to me. Emphasis seems to be that the more she learned about wealth inequality the more she realized the R party were the problem and not the solution.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/06/24/can-elizabeth-warren-win-it-all

yeah learning about her political conversion makes me like her more

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/02/hickenlooper-2020-campaign-1395051

lol gfy

Asked about his fundraising in the interview with MSNBC, however, Hickenlooper conceded “we certainly haven’t raised $24 million,” a reference to second-quarter sums reported by the campaigns of South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

“I’m not going to get into it until we pull the numbers together,” he added. “But the bottom line is for a small campaign like us … it’s harder to raise money because we’re not promising free health care or, you know, to forgive free tuition for everyone, forgive student debt.”

"it's hard for my campaign, which offers absolutely nothing in the way of policy, to gain any support"

if we give people all those things, they might have the economic freedom to run hopeless vanity campaigns for president too!

yeah it's the bribes of intelligent governance that are swaying this primary season, totally unfair; we should all be longing for the day when being a leathery white guy in your sixties was what people cared about

"im from the weed state, what more do you dickheads want???"