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Well that would be a pretty significant statement if it wasn't obvious from the clip that she isn't listening to a word they are saying and also if her record wasn't largely made up of AIPAC approved positions. good for the activists for getting publicity, i imagine Warren will have some campaign surrogates quietly issue a correction friday after news hours.

dsb, Friday, 12 July 2019 04:28 (seven years ago)

Gravel made it to 65K, and his crew are streaming now:

https://www.pscp.tv/MikeGravel

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:36 (seven years ago)

They had great chuckles that Hickenlooper only had 14K donors

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:37 (seven years ago)

https://outline.com/7hYHUG

The Buttigieg column that the New Republic quickly pulled

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2019 13:23 (seven years ago)

complete embarrassment

k3vin k., Monday, 15 July 2019 16:05 (seven years ago)

Why did the outline republish it?

El Tomboto, Monday, 15 July 2019 16:13 (seven years ago)

that's not web publication The Outline but a web-based reader app called "Outline" which cached the article

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 15 July 2019 16:15 (seven years ago)

Nevermind I’m an idiot who can’t read domain names

El Tomboto, Monday, 15 July 2019 16:15 (seven years ago)

I saw the article before it was pulled, absolutely shocking someone let that go through editing and be published

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:00 (seven years ago)

that link isn't working -- what's the gist?

gbx, Monday, 15 July 2019 17:04 (seven years ago)

he's a bad gay

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:07 (seven years ago)

Gay writer says Mayor Pete is wrong kind of gay

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:26 (seven years ago)

representative excerpt:

Mary Pete and I are just not the same kind of gay. (For those of you wondering about “Mary Pete”: a couple of months ago I asked Facebook what the gay equivalent of Uncle Tom was, and this was the answer at which we collectively arrived.)

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 17:28 (seven years ago)

In May 2011, Peck's criticism of Jewish-American literature in which he claimed "[I]f I have to read another book about the Holocaust, I’ll kill a Jew myself" prompted a public outcry. His editors later removed the statement from his article.[8]

omar little, Monday, 15 July 2019 17:30 (seven years ago)

He's also the critic Stanley Crouch punched in the face

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:32 (seven years ago)

tnr what are you doin

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:35 (seven years ago)

lol how many critics has crouch punched? i can think of three w/o strain

mark s, Monday, 15 July 2019 17:53 (seven years ago)

I like how right in the middle of Don saying the most outright publicly racist things he's ever said, Beto pops in to the headlines to just real quick inform everyone that he's descended from slave owners.

EVERYONE: Um, thank for you sharing that, Beto.

BETO: De nada.

EVERYONE: Alright, well, anyway, back to the president being a white supremacist...

del griffith, Monday, 15 July 2019 17:59 (seven years ago)

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/new-republic-drops-out-climate-forum-offensive-pete-buttigieg.html

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:01 (seven years ago)

If you want to accept gay people, and not just because it makes you feel better about yourself, you have to accept that they may do things that you find grotesque but that make them no less acceptable and no less human. With Peck, TNR exposed the wider culture to a facet of gay culture with particularly rough edges and when people found it unsightly, they did their best to make it unseen. That the removal of writing that was not found to be plagiarized or factually inaccurate didn’t cause a tenth of the controversy as Peck’s opinion was telling in itself. We only like well-behaved gay men in these refined online quarters, apparently. The rest can go to hell.

https://jezebel.com/define-homophobic-1836367531

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:02 (seven years ago)

Rich included two long equivocating paragraphs in the middle that present exactly what's wrong with the piece.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:19 (seven years ago)

I'm aware that there are things wrong with it.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:24 (seven years ago)

ftr I read the piece when it was published, agreed with some of it, shook my head at some of it, and forgot about it. I understand TNR's craven reasons for pulling it all too well.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:28 (seven years ago)

.... disagree p profoundly with rich but whatever

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:31 (seven years ago)

the piece should've gotten the axe the minute an editor read "gay equivalent of uncle tom"

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:32 (seven years ago)

Dale Peck's attack on Mayor Pete conjured memories of my youth, when literary/political assaults were common, no apologies were given, and readers either rolled with it or moved on to something else. Hypersensitivity is now gospel, which in the degraded age of Trump is "ironic." https://t.co/Fn4owShIbP

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) July 13, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:32 (seven years ago)

I started reading it, remembered that Dale Peck is a shitty writer and that I don't care about Pete Buttigeig anyway, and bailed about 1/4 of the way in.

That typically imbecilic Perrin tweet has me convinced Cintra Wilson will start slithering around again any day now.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:35 (seven years ago)

I guess Reps. Omar, Pressly, Tlaib, and AOC should have "rolled with it and moved on to something else" in response to Trump's recent tweets then, as opposed to succumbing to "hypersensitivity"

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:37 (seven years ago)

Emily Atkin
‏Verified account @emorwee

I’ve been trying for hours to write a fancy adult-person statement responding to the fact that my presidential climate forum got cancelled because of TNR’s wildly offensive mayor Pete piece. And I’m just can’t do it. I’m still so devastated.
6:28 AM - 15 Jul 2019

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:38 (seven years ago)

It's one thing to correctly attack TNR for cowardice, another to allude to the Golden Age of Gore Vidal and Wilfrid Sheed and Elizabeth Hardwick as if the mere fact that it's not nice to Buttigieg qualifies it as a worthy successor.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:38 (seven years ago)

otm. the "mary pete" piece was simply poorly written and conceived; yoking it to anti-pc speaking-truth-to-power talking points doesn't make it any less lame

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:38 (seven years ago)

incredibly rich to describe that piece as a "literary/political assault". "hypersensitivity is now gospel" is some "i wrote something dumb and experienced consequences, whatever happened to free speech"

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:39 (seven years ago)

DP seems to be talking about the press, u see xxxxp

fuck me for being on this fucking jizzboard

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:39 (seven years ago)

BLOOOOOOOW MEEEEEEEEEEE

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:39 (seven years ago)

whats amazing is how actually motherfucking stupid so many of you are

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:40 (seven years ago)

morbs, throwing a tantrum like this definitely proves you're smart and right

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:41 (seven years ago)

how dare a free press be OFFENSIVE

get offensive, stay offended. it usta be called adulthood.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:41 (seven years ago)

In the old days the New Republic would have had to recall all the magazines and rip the offending pages out of each copy

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:43 (seven years ago)

did TNR drop your article too, morbs

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:44 (seven years ago)

here's the thing: "devastating" takedowns of political touchstones and cultural sacred cows, whether as essays or reviews, still get published all the time...and the writers get paid less than Vidal did.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:45 (seven years ago)

i definitely think that saying that mayor pete would be a bad president because he'd be too busy daydreaming about dick is a cool thing to write

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:45 (seven years ago)

think about it, he can get any dick he wants

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:46 (seven years ago)

here's an unedited pull-quote (no pun intended); gore vidal this ain't

Every move is simultaneously cynical and morally oblivious. They’re the steps one takes not to learn about the world but to become a marketable political candidate (hmmm, what’s a good counter to the whole sleeps-with-men thing? I know: military service!) (side benefit: you’re surrounded by hot guys!)

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:47 (seven years ago)

jim otm, Peck's dimestore psychoanalysis was the main reason that piece was indefensible

rob, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:48 (seven years ago)

anyway Peck will forever be the aggro simpleton who thought "Jessa Crisp-Tits" was a devastating insult

rob, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:50 (seven years ago)

Now that'we're on the subject, I couldn't stand Jeremy Peters' Sunday NYT piece about Buttigieg, who presents himself as a replicant in thrall to his ambitions: a guy who would focus group his choice for a husband.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:50 (seven years ago)

I do have to admit that even by the standards of this hacky screenplay we call reality in 2019, his name being Chasten is a bit on the nose.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:54 (seven years ago)

His husband's name reflects his chastened attitude toward his sexuality don't you see

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:56 (seven years ago)

the “historic” home, the “tasteful” decor (no more than one nude photograph of a muscular torso per room; statuary only if they’re fair copies of Greek or Roman originals), the two- or four- or six-pack depending on how often you can get to the gym and how much you hate yourself, the theatre (always spelled with an -re) subscription, the opera subscription, the ballet subscription, the book club, the AKC-certified toy dog with at least one charming neurosis and/or dietary tic, the winter vacation to someplace “tropical,” the summer vacation to someplace “cultural,” the specialty kitchen appliances—you just have to get a sous vide machine, it changed our life! Sorry, boys, that’s not a life, it’s something you buy from a catalog.

Jesus.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 15 July 2019 19:38 (seven years ago)

not sure i'd ascribe divinity, but otfm

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 19:46 (seven years ago)


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