'Jackie Brown' is a great fucking movie.

Justified is one of my favorite shows ever

casting DeNiro in that role was genius

QT must have been a big Justified fan too given he's recently cast Goggins, Olyphant and Herriman

imagine if quentin tarantino had devoted his career to adapting elmore leonard instead of whatever it was that he did

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if the coen brothers adapted elmore leonard

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i downloaded all the elmore leonard books onto my iphone five

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lol

i love out of sight i rank it second in the elmore leonard adaptations, get shorty is fun but it doesnt really nail the leonard vibe turns it into a goofy overblown thing

the Karen Sisco series w/ Carla Gugino is pretty solid too

De Niro is so funny as a dude with nothing going on upstairs

He really is. He should have played more dumb guys.

He just got an Emmy nomination for doing so.

This is, no hyperbole, the most blatantly awful “performance” I’ve ever seen nominated for any award by any awards-giving body. Razzies included. https://t.co/zQYmN5aLXm

— Mike D’Angelo (@gemko) July 16, 2019

(To clarify, the shittiness of his performance made it seem as though he was playing Mueller as a dumb guy.)

i love this movie. its got more heart than any other tarantino film

I co-signed lag∞n’s tweet at the time and I will co-sign it now, if qt is really only gonna make 10 films he will have wasted 9 of them not adapting Leonard

I love how the mall (the food court, AMC theater, dept store) is a supporting actor. It should've gotten an Oscar nomination.

Justified is one of my favorite shows ever

that show really has the best ending, i loved all the tedious and offtm speculation about how it would wrap things up bc it was as if no one had watched the show at all and was just guessing based on other shows.

Boyd asks why Raylan went out of his way to deliver the news in person, and answers himself, "We dug coal together", to which Raylan responds, "That's right."

"...is that Rutger Hauer?"

love Jackie Brown. I think i like Out of Sight a bit more, but I'll have to rescreen both of them to confirm. it's close either way.

Get Shorty is good, it's got a bunch of great performances and it's vv entertaining. It's just a bit more minor, and there's not much heart to it. maybe that's the case with the novel too but i doubt it.

"your ass used to be beautiful" is my favorite line in this (great) movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e7wbs_xfas

iconic

One of the small subtle touches is that Ordell has a respect for Max Cherry -- like, Max keeps surpassing his expectations (cool in the face of danger, the Delfonics, etc).

did his ass used to be beautiful tho?? guess we have to take Ordell's word for it

we dug coal together legit one of the greatest scenes in history

I’m sort of stuck on Max not washing his hands after using the bathroom

I love how the mall (the food court, AMC theater, dept store) is a supporting actor. It should've gotten an Oscar nomination.

i saw Jackie Brown at the Del Amo Mall in Torrance, where those scenes were (mostly?) shot. it was weird!

did strawberry letter 23 play when you walked out of the theater

awesome xp

I’ve hated every Tarantino film since, but this is a masterpiece imo.

It’s certainly the QT film that has the most replay value for me, which is directly related to the fact that it’s his least affected film. I always think of it as the only QT film that actually takes place on what is recognizable as planet Earth as we know it, populated by identifiable Earth Humans.

One of the small subtle touches is that Ordell has a respect for Max Cherry -- like, Max keeps surpassing his expectations (cool in the face of danger, the Delfonics, etc).

LOL that difference and range are a virtue not a fault

It’s funny to imagine what this movie would look like if it was made in QTs post Jackie Brown dgaf style.

“Uh uh uh - I didn’t hear you wash your hands!”
“My what?”
“Your hands - I didn’t hear you wash them.”
“Wash my hands?”
“Those very hands.”
“These hands here?”
“Clean, scrub, disinfect, sanitize. Wash.”
“These hands?”
“Those motherfuckin hands.”
Etc etc etc

lol otm

Thats more like post-IB (ie the death of his editor)

Menke didn’t edit his ‘90s screenplays, which were less discursive than his recent films indicate their screenplays to be

my point about the chronology still stands, that stuff didn't set in in his films until after Menke died

but it had nothing to do with her death. you can see it creeping in in IB anyway, especially the scenes with Waltz.

with Waltz it at least comes off as a character trait that makes sense. In the succeeding two films it feels more like arbitrary time-marking

yeah from what I remember it's not fully there, but Django is such a mess... H8 is talky by necessity and I was gripped by it tho I realize ymmv, but I saw it in 70mm, not sure if when I'm going to revisit it. I need to revisit IB first.

i think her editing was incredibly skillful though i don't want to lay all the credit at her doorstep. i think QT has a gift for tension in scenes leading up to a violent event, a tension that she probably helped along or maybe even partially created with her editing. i'm not a huge fan of Death Proof but i think for example the editing in the scene w/the car ride and head-on collision is ridiculously good (not to take away from the directing either).

Am I the only one who prefers DU to IB? The scenes with the Basterds are just so terrible that it slightly ruins it for me. Apart from the bravura set-pieces, it doesnt add up to much really imo. Django has its flaws but its v enjoyable and Samuel L's turn in it is his best role ever.

His staging changes more than the writing does imo. Both show-off monologues, and redundant back & forths, from IB on start being shot in long takes on soundstages rather than dynamically in locations or more naturalistic sets. Probably because it worked so well for Waltz on that one (and he claims he cut an entire featuresworth of an action movie about Brad Pitt’s crew out of that, which may have changed its tenor).

The actorly showcasing & Goggins repeating things worked for me in the 70mm version of H8ful too. It comes off as more forced at times in the super-extended / episodic version, but nbd.

Django just basically sucks.

For me the rot had fully set in w/Basterds - it just felt like completely aimless wheel-spinning, insanely flabby scenes that went nowhere, performed by actors doing wacky voices and accents, expecting the audience to indulge & be impressed by anything as long as it was “a long take”. I haven’t seen it since I failed to make it through a DVD rental viewing in 2010 or so, but I have a strong memory of so many boring dialogues of people ordering food, being served food, & talking about food - the lowest form of lazy screenwriter page-filling imo.

But there are plenty of threads for me to piss & whine about nu-Tarantino, instead of this thread to celebrate the greatness of Jackie Brown. Another detail I love - Tiny Lister’s quietly haunted delivery of “I found him” after Ordell had been killed.

don’t touch my levels

^^^

Jackie Brown is a great fucking movie imo

t I have a strong memory of so many boring dialogues of people ordering food, being served food, & talking about food

Lol there is literally only one scene where this happens, its comparatively short

I liked Django

the best thing about this movie is Jackie's character arc, or more accurately the way Jackie's character is gradually revealed to us, mostly through Max: initially we're worried about her, then charmed, and finally frightened by her

One of QT's most sensible moves was calling it "Jackie Brown" instead of Rum Punch ... it's typical of Leonard to stick a throw-away title like Rum Punch on this novel, no big deal because he'd already written a couple of dozen others just as good