Your 2008 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

Obviously Hillary is going to come out with some pointed negative ads, but I'm interested to see if Obama will respond in kind, or if he will maintain his pacific stance and let the Clinton campaign dirty its hands trying to sling mud.

Unless he kept white slaves, I'm not sure what other dirt she can sling at him. The drug thing petered out.

"I hold in my hand Barack's summer camp transcripts..."

I think Clinton's fucked.

it's all about letting someone get dirty for you; for obama, it was edwards. for hillary? i dunno, the vwrc? maybe scaife lunching with bill means something.

I just don't see any workable angle against Obama that she can fall back on. He's monopolized the "change" meme for obvious reasons, and he has no skeletons in his closet that haven't already been exhumed and dismissed, and harping on his "inexperience" seems like a double-edged sword that could just as easily be turned against her. On top of that, she's got negative associations with a family dynasty, her stupidly hawkish foreign policy votes, and zero personal charisma or dynamism.

she'll have to say he's a paper tiger: his support is all young and heavily 'I', untranslateable out of iowa. she has no options but to keep going on "inevitability" -- "oh big deal, we all know i'm gonna take this amirite?"

ps that kashi box is about the best thing ever

i thought her post-caucus speech was very big-tent; she didn't say "yeah but CHOOSE ME NEXT" until the very last line; everything else was about democrats and the democratic party.. i'd actually be sort of surprised if things got nasty between the democrats but i always think that and they always surprise me

but that sorta presumption can be pretty unappealling. Its a weird tautology ("vote for me because I'm going to win!") that has no substance to it.

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Rodham's speech: "There'll be a Democrat in the White House in 2009! Probably not me!"

She and Drudge will make fun of his ears.

She could always needle him on policy issues, though, right? Not that they would be very productive. I certainly think Hillary's in a tight spot here -- I think her underhanded attacks at Obama's character, even though she made them through surrogates, backfired and made her look two-faced. She can't afford to repeat that in New Hampshire, but she needs to do something to stop his momentum.

Not that I want her to, mind.

fight about this on the mod req board

This thread has some amazing stuff in it.
jhoshea the plumber was OTM in 06

weve totally neglected this photo
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03dqg4K7qX8nt/340x.jpg

ugh would rather not picture their hideous couplings

geez blount whatever happened to that guy

balls

Symmetry required gabbneb to open this.

i was also otm in 06 but only about the major issue of the election, not the candidates

TOMBOT would like to point out

well if we're slapping ourselves on the back then for the record I was OTM all over this fucking thread - about Hillary, about McCain, about Obama, lolz even about Biden:

Biden as VP would be a disaster, I think - who would want a VP that tries to hog the media limelight by continually putting his foot in his mouth?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, February 1, 2007 7:20 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Biden is not running for VP. quite possibly Secretary of State, but not VP.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, February 1, 2007 7:30 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and you were right about Biden's hyperactive foot!

I don't have time to read this - was I OTM?

(Biden wasn't running for VP btw)

slapping selves on back dept

Does Joe Biden have rocks in his head? The plagiarizing sen (D-Credit Card Companies) will be '08's Lieberman.

>Both Powell and Obama have incredible integrity<

That's hilarious. You do remember the UN slideshow? And Obama's voting record has been fairly New Democrat-as-usual:

http://www.davidsirota.com/2005/05/whats-happened-to-barack-obama.html

"Obama's second vote as a U.S. Senator was in support of confirming Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State. He also voted to confirm John Negroponte as Director of National Intelligence, despite Negroponte's involvement in Iran-Contra and other situations that clearly raise questions about his ethics and discretion. Obama also voted for a bill to limit citizens rights to seek legal redress against abusive corporations. During the bankruptcy debate, he helped vote down a Democratic amendment to cap the abusive interest rates credit card companies could charge...Obama cast a key procedural vote in support of President Bush's right-wing judges."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:55 PM (10 years ago)