ukilxors arent u posh?

the northern, geologically very old as fuck part of Scotland was a bit of New York that broke off continental America iirc.

Peat bog covers almost seven times as much land as all Britain's buildings.

all of it a sink for old carbon dioxide just waiting to be released and fuck the planet even harder

We'll need it all for fuel after Brexit.

this lrb essay (sub only sadly) by james meek is v good on farmers and brexit and the sheer tangle of thinking it involved: https://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n12/james-meek/how-to-grow-a-weetabix

i am also rereading a much earlier essay (2001) by ilx-punchbag andrew o'hagan abt farming in the UK (it was published as a little booklet and i gave it to me mum as a present, as this was a topic that greatly interested her) (she lived in rural shropshire, which is very full of farming)

anyway the reread is slow bcz it is VERY ANNOYINGLY WRITTEN, which lol i don't think i noticed before (sorry mum): aoh's status as a punchbag is WELL EARNED

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the northern, geologically very old as fuck part of Scotland was a bit of New York that broke off continental America iirc.

― calzino, Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:44 AM (seven minutes ago)

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i'm taking a wee dauner here by the way, ya cunt ye

Avalonia was a microcontinent in the Paleozoic era. Crustal fragments of this former microcontinent underlie south-west Great Britain, southern Ireland, and the eastern coast of North America. It is the source of many of the older rocks of Western Europe, Atlantic Canada, and parts of the coastal United States.

Lool, this is what I was talking about.

all of it a sink for old carbon dioxide just waiting to be released and fuck the planet even harder

AVALONIA.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/54905025449afb7f809a35647c2ff38d/tenor.gif

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/sep/14/cornwall-and-south-devon-originally-belonged-to-europe

it literally was the british riviera, hence the abundance of tungsten and tin + identical rock types of france.

lol jim

have ye all voted lads

Checks out

voting is mainly for rich old ppl iirc

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gosh these results will make for wonderful fap talk

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bullshit

just about a 52/48 ratio sounds about right

wins otm

*pops monocle*

bullshit

Not to worry, you'll be able to sniff the poshness out in person, Faking It-style.

idk how to say this without saying it

but

all british ppl look the same to me

And they all have names like Lyonetta Edith Regina Valentine Myra Polwarth Avelina Phillipa Violantha de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache.

guilty as charged

*changes surname to "pie&mash-pie&mash" to celebrate yorkshire day*

im posh but yknow its beastly 4

How did this lose?!?!?!

Some of us played the top-hole modesty double-bluff

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― mark s, Friday, July 26, 2019 12:13 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

can't help but think a working definition of poshness lies somewhere between darragh's "you are a Brit who lives in some kind of roofed building" and AF's "you are within 4 places of the throne of somewhere"

also it's a cultural-political term subject to significant variation in use, as determined by regional, community and class factors

"posh" signifiers when I was a schoolkid included wearing glasses, being able to spell

today i learned nv went to a khmer rouge school

The West Midlands was full of them.

*jello biafra voice* "pol! posh! pol! posh! pol! posh!"

can't help but think a working definition of poshness lies somewhere between darragh's "you are a Brit who lives in some kind of roofed building" and AF's "you are within 4 places of the throne of somewhere"

― seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:10 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

also it's a cultural-political term subject to significant variation in use, as determined by regional, community and class factors

― mark s, Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:16 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think tbh lads yeve marked it out nicely by these two posts

one of the things ye

yes, ye

struggle with is the lack of a term that signifies the reachiness of a relative attempt at posh that takes into account yr natal, environmental, economic etc factors

ie ye dont have #notions like we do. covers a gamut.

We give ourselves airs sometimes, which might be something like the same thing.

yes actually thats a fair rejoinder

fuck ive to start this thesis again, again

Growing up I always thought a sign that someone was posh was that they had the radio times instead of one of the cheapo TV guides, daft maybe but so are a lot of the ways poshness is defined - I think some of the area covered by these poll options if I understand them is like posh in the same way that walkers sensations are posh

I grew up on a council estate and today I still live in social housing in the same postcode so I’m not displaying much in the way of mobility upward or down. My dad was a builder and now works in a Tesco, mum worked nights at an old folks home but got a degree when I was in secondary school and moved into the middle class profession of teaching at an fe college (we still never had any money tho). Dad comes from an Afro-Caribbean immigrant family in east London - he’s never really talked much about it but I think he had a rough childhood before joining the army. Mum’s folks come from the Glasgow tenements - to hear them talk, growing up poor but happy chugging mince n tatties in an open midden - and my grandparents came to Cambridge to look for jobs with nothing but the mattress on their backs, and the rest of the clan (a lot of them, they’re catholics) eventually followed them down. Underclass cred side note btw, that side of the family has some dodgy crims and I could tell some calzian stories about the degenerate fucking villains and thugs in my extended family!

Having said all that my current job is the first one I’ve ever had where the pay was expressed to me as an annual rather than hourly figure - it’s just another drone job really and doesn’t pay that well but it’s undeniably a more middle class industry, most of my coworkers are university educated (unlike me). And I don’t feel “culturally working class” I don’t think, I’m pretty sure I eat whatever the wealthy columnists have decided the middle class foods are now, plus I do the guardian xword.

tldr it is stupid to pretend that posh means the same as “a bit middle class in some respects; I’ve no doubt most ilxors are the latter; if I’d voted in this I’d have hovered between not posh honest and scum but like, crème de la scum

Growing up I always thought a sign that someone was posh was that they had the radio times instead of one of the cheapo TV guides

fuckin truth bomb right here

xp Anyway these matters are programmed so deep into us that wrong-feeling* class signifiers often produce a fathomless disgust deeper by far than mere language, one that manifests as different kinds of contempt.

*I know what I mean. Somewhere between unnatural and undeserved but the word I first wanted to use was unearned.

a very fine answer

the poll is ofc to be taken in as light or as accusatory (heh its a pun in context look) a tone as one prefers to habitually ascribe to the starter

love to ask ukilxors about class and money obv

politics just makes ye seethe and i get nervy for whomever is the current mayor of cork or whatever

(additional wrinkle in the truthbomb digression: radio times ONLY carried BBC-related info before 1991)

well yeah, nothing of any worth on the other channels