ukilxors arent u posh?

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

bullshit

just about a 52/48 ratio sounds about right

wins otm

*pops monocle*

bullshit

Not to worry, you'll be able to sniff the poshness out in person, Faking It-style.

idk how to say this without saying it

but

all british ppl look the same to me

And they all have names like Lyonetta Edith Regina Valentine Myra Polwarth Avelina Phillipa Violantha de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache.

guilty as charged

*changes surname to "pie&mash-pie&mash" to celebrate yorkshire day*

im posh but yknow its beastly 4

How did this lose?!?!?!

Some of us played the top-hole modesty double-bluff

tapping_temple_wisely.gif except it's my gold top hat i'm tapping

― mark s, Friday, July 26, 2019 12:13 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

can't help but think a working definition of poshness lies somewhere between darragh's "you are a Brit who lives in some kind of roofed building" and AF's "you are within 4 places of the throne of somewhere"

also it's a cultural-political term subject to significant variation in use, as determined by regional, community and class factors

"posh" signifiers when I was a schoolkid included wearing glasses, being able to spell

today i learned nv went to a khmer rouge school

The West Midlands was full of them.

*jello biafra voice* "pol! posh! pol! posh! pol! posh!"

can't help but think a working definition of poshness lies somewhere between darragh's "you are a Brit who lives in some kind of roofed building" and AF's "you are within 4 places of the throne of somewhere"

― seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:10 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

also it's a cultural-political term subject to significant variation in use, as determined by regional, community and class factors

― mark s, Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:16 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think tbh lads yeve marked it out nicely by these two posts

one of the things ye

yes, ye

struggle with is the lack of a term that signifies the reachiness of a relative attempt at posh that takes into account yr natal, environmental, economic etc factors

ie ye dont have #notions like we do. covers a gamut.

We give ourselves airs sometimes, which might be something like the same thing.

yes actually thats a fair rejoinder

fuck ive to start this thesis again, again

Growing up I always thought a sign that someone was posh was that they had the radio times instead of one of the cheapo TV guides, daft maybe but so are a lot of the ways poshness is defined - I think some of the area covered by these poll options if I understand them is like posh in the same way that walkers sensations are posh

I grew up on a council estate and today I still live in social housing in the same postcode so I’m not displaying much in the way of mobility upward or down. My dad was a builder and now works in a Tesco, mum worked nights at an old folks home but got a degree when I was in secondary school and moved into the middle class profession of teaching at an fe college (we still never had any money tho). Dad comes from an Afro-Caribbean immigrant family in east London - he’s never really talked much about it but I think he had a rough childhood before joining the army. Mum’s folks come from the Glasgow tenements - to hear them talk, growing up poor but happy chugging mince n tatties in an open midden - and my grandparents came to Cambridge to look for jobs with nothing but the mattress on their backs, and the rest of the clan (a lot of them, they’re catholics) eventually followed them down. Underclass cred side note btw, that side of the family has some dodgy crims and I could tell some calzian stories about the degenerate fucking villains and thugs in my extended family!

Having said all that my current job is the first one I’ve ever had where the pay was expressed to me as an annual rather than hourly figure - it’s just another drone job really and doesn’t pay that well but it’s undeniably a more middle class industry, most of my coworkers are university educated (unlike me). And I don’t feel “culturally working class” I don’t think, I’m pretty sure I eat whatever the wealthy columnists have decided the middle class foods are now, plus I do the guardian xword.

tldr it is stupid to pretend that posh means the same as “a bit middle class in some respects; I’ve no doubt most ilxors are the latter; if I’d voted in this I’d have hovered between not posh honest and scum but like, crème de la scum

Growing up I always thought a sign that someone was posh was that they had the radio times instead of one of the cheapo TV guides

fuckin truth bomb right here

xp Anyway these matters are programmed so deep into us that wrong-feeling* class signifiers often produce a fathomless disgust deeper by far than mere language, one that manifests as different kinds of contempt.

*I know what I mean. Somewhere between unnatural and undeserved but the word I first wanted to use was unearned.

a very fine answer

the poll is ofc to be taken in as light or as accusatory (heh its a pun in context look) a tone as one prefers to habitually ascribe to the starter

love to ask ukilxors about class and money obv

politics just makes ye seethe and i get nervy for whomever is the current mayor of cork or whatever

(additional wrinkle in the truthbomb digression: radio times ONLY carried BBC-related info before 1991)

well yeah, nothing of any worth on the other channels

wait the circulation of the radio times for the first half of 2018 was 577,087?!

what the fuck

of course, any former 80's paperboy knows the TV Times was the dedicated Itv/Ch4 guide, then the berlin wall came and down and peace broke out between them or something. Many of the poshos I delivered to got both!

I did about 8 paper-rounds to feed my addiction to comics amphetamines. I'm probably still carrying back injuries from when the Sunday papers suddenly got fucking massive in '87 or something.

My granny got TV Times AND Radio Times, don't remember the BBC being on in her house much though.

Not only did my grandmother take the Radio Times (and never the TV Times) she had a special leather-bound folder thing to keep it in. (She also took the Birmingham Post (broadsheet) and never the Evening Mail (tabloid). These things mattered to her.)

Saturday morning/afternoon was Western/gangster movie, the wrestling, World of Sport.

... boring horseracing on for hours at a time.

the in-joke in our house used to be about how my dad was a typically thick as fuck Kerryman, because his justification for not getting a coloured tv was that he only watches the snooker on it!

keeps u guessin tbf

early Saturday memories = round the back of my nan's sofa wreathed in her cig smoke, also wrestling, World of Sport, possibly an old movie

Oh God, yes, my Granny smoked 80 a day.

... didn't do her any harm too... apart from going blind, as good as.

my Gran from Tralee use to give me booze and fags from the age of 14, she used to be a chainsmoker with this exotic looking cigarette holder - well I'd seen one before. She was the only family on my dad's side I had much affection for. I can still remember playing her the pet shop boys Disco album and she was saying: this is real grand music is this. I think lots of people had inspirational chainsmoking grans back then.

My gran: that, but posh - retired fashion buyer, cigarette in deco holder, very good at mixed drinks and after-dinner schnapps in tiny red glasses.

(additional wrinkle in the truthbomb digression: radio times ONLY carried BBC-related info before 1991)

This is true – and the TV Times ONLY had ITV/Channel 4. What's more, before that year no other magazines (or newspapers) could print a whole week's worth of TV – only that day's. So more or less everyone in 70s/80s Britain who had a TV bought bought Radio/TV Times if they wanted to know what was coming up. It was amazing when the papers suddenly could print their own TV guides – a big tabloid hullabaloo.

It was obligatory, you had to buy both, every week.

When they got to publish each other's schedule, most people (I believe) went Radio Times. TV Times was more about Soap Opera coverage. Mind you, the RT definitely got more gentrified, particularly when you get an indication of the target market via the adverts : Statuettes, ceramic plates, commemorative gold coins of 3 mm wide from obscure islands with suitably "ROyal Minte" type names. (I think it's like this now, innit?)

So, it got to only buying the Christmas edition, then not even that.

Yeah, we only had them at christmas, can't remember what we'd do the rest of the year if we wanted to know what was on a few days in advance... use ceefax maybe?

But you tell young people today about the TV Times/Radio Times closed shop, they won't believe you (at least, that's how I interpret the glazed, bored look in their eye)

At what point did those trailers between shows of what was coming up that evening/tomorrow/later that week, stop?

a special leather-bound folder thing to keep it in

I remember seeing an advert for this in the Radio Times and thinking that it was pretentious wannabe posh posturing.