I found Gilbert Gottfried's riff on Seinfeld's paper-thin standup act to be much funnier than Jerry's act.
WHYYYYYY... AHH THERE SHOOOOELACES?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
fwiw either jerry or larry said at some point that seinfeld was modeled after the abbott and costello show, it's very consciously much more in the tradition of classic comedy than a lot of post-70s sitcoms were
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
i don't think the "it was all larry david" take really holds up
hey I gave Jerry 10% credit for going "oh hey that's a good idea Larry, keep that. And add this lil joke in there somewhere."
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link
In "Comedians in Cars..." Jer presents himself as Emeritus Professor of Comedy, the Keeper of the Joke, but says nothing funny at all in any of the ones I've seen. And the stuff about the cars is dull.
― fetter, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link
I’ll never watch that it looks ghastly tbh
― YouGov to see it (wins), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
like eating some asian food and making a joke about how stupid asian people are for still using chopsticks when forks exist IN FRONT OF THE ASIAN CHEF
that is just FUCK YOU levels of famous assholishness
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:23 PM (four minutes ago)
that's also a joke from seinfeld like 25 years ago
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
shakey otm in this thread
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
lol that only makes it worse!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link
would anyone pick Jerry if it was him vs Larry David?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
someone who saw Fridays?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
Seinfeld is the far better show imo
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
both misanthropic jerks (or at least that's their public schtick) but with Larry it's endearing & relatable
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
I wonder what Jerry think of "Shakes the Clown". Would he hate it because how brutal it's take on standups is?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
Re:misanthropy, Bobcat's Falling Down ripoff movie God Bless America was so dumb I couldnt even bother being offended. Would def classify the writer/director of that shit as a uniquely angry misanthrope.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
feel like Seinfeld could not have worked if Jerry was anything but a total asshole
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
Seinfeld is a great sitcom, several of Bobcat’s movies are good & fascinating, Jerry Seinfeld is a creepy asshole, Bob Goldthwait is a creepy mensch Jerry talks a lot about how hard he works (at writing 2-3 minutes of his own material a year), Bobcat keeps working hard (directing hours & hours of other ppl’s material a year)
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
Like, Seinfeld's current show, he often seems as or more interested in whatever rare luxury car he is driving than in his guest.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 20:56 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I find his show intermittently entertaining but it is weird how comfortable he is with being a total asshole
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 20:57 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
being cruel to wage slaves, making offhandedly racist jokes, making fun of poor people, crowing about not having any feelings or inner life etc.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 20:59 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
voted seinfeld
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link
can anyone seriously claim Seinfeld has ever had 45 seconds as glorious as this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFOXs5HfQTc
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link
(directing hours & hours of other ppl’s material a year)Or I guess last year’s TV show may have been all written by him? Eight half-hour stand-alone satire/horror films >> making fun of homeless ppl while someone pays you to drive an expensive car past them (although I watched the latter & will probably never see the former, #partoftheproblem)
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
This was 1986!
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-stand-ups/n9409
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
is Bobcat's Seinfeld impression on the internet?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
I think I just learned that Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee stars Jerry Seinfeld, not Jay Leno
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
leno was only in one but insisted on equal billing iirc
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
Seinfeld is probably better than anything Bobcat has been involved in (the latter's episode of The Larry Sanders Show notwithstanding), but I am pretty sure I like and am far more interested in Bobcat Goldthwait as a person than Seinfeld, so I dunno.
― Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link
bobcat because of nirvana unplugged, i guess
― brimstead, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link
Bob Goldthwait is a creepy mensch
I dont even see whats creepy about him tbh. "Worlds Greatest Dad" is a really great movie imo, so Bobcat all the way
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 15 August 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
I dont even see whats creepy about him tbh.
only one of these men dated a 17-year-old when they were 39― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:38 AM (three hours ago)
― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:38 AM (three hours ago)
I'll allow that dating a 19-year-old when you are 35 is less bad, but it's not ideal
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 15 August 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link
Jerry Seinfeld saying what he said about Bobcat on his show was terribly classless and petty. He could easily have edited it out, but he didn't because he's a little bitch.
Seinfeld was one of the best stand-up comics of his generation, and his sitcom is a classic.
Bobcat Goldthwait has directed two outstanding comedies, Shakes the Clown and World's Greatest Dad, which is two more than Jerry Seinfeld has ever directed, or probably ever will.
Goldthwait is a very funny stand-up comedian, so Seinfeld calling him unfunny is straight up slander.
― Josefa, Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link
I still watch and love “Seinfeld” to this day and will assert that the DNA of that show is at least 80% Larry David judging by Curb and various other things.I don’t know Bobcat’s comedy super well, but he seems like a genuinely decent and interesting human being with artistic vision while Jerry irl seems awful and like the worst caricature of a rich person.Bobcat.
― circa1916, Thursday, 15 August 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
The one character that Jerry played vs the one that Bobcat always ended up cast to play = Bobcat in a landslide
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 August 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link
six voters jinxed Bobcat: hospitalised with broken ribs & a concussion from a car crash before (not) taping a new special last night.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 17 August 2019 06:29 (four years ago) link
I gotta be honest, I just kind of assume that Jerry Seinfeld is some sort of living embodiment of "superdickery". Like one day he'll come out to us all and say "I've been behaving like an insufferable asshole for all these years as part of a convoluted and highly implausible scheme to foil an alien invasion!" It makes me feel better, at least.
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 August 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
Strikes against bobcat, IMO:- sent some super creepo Instagram messages to a very young female comedian friend of mine- worst goatee in show business - still asking people to refer to him, in his late 50s, as “Bobcat”
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 17 August 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link
Would you prefer Robertcat?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 August 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
something more adult like that, or BobLion
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 17 August 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link
why is seinfeld being an asshole such a big topic in yer lives
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 August 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link
feel like his unapologetic approach to it is refreshing and ought to have neutralised or countered in advance the usual wetness like
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 August 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
'Unapologetic' isn't so convincing when you spend your time whining about college kids not finding you funny.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link
I dunno it seems of a piece tbh he complains about lots of things
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd)
also old men who are obsessed about what college kids think about them tend to have more than a little al capp in them
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
its def true that both have been 'obsessed' with college kids over the years, in a couple different ways
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 17 August 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link
the only way to decide this important question is to ask jerry seinfeld and bobcat goldthwait to sprint at each other and collide at full speed. whoever makes the most sense at the end wins
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
The best sitcom ever was Barney Miller.
Goldthwait wins this for the cover of his only (I wonder why) album:
https://img.discogs.com/4leSOQ-eMRCPx1dMAmlk5nl2A0o=/fit-in/600x578/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1768359-1394571808-2955.jpeg.jpg
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/40/71/8c407184039ca3c35016a03f81f3dd18.jpg
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 18 August 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link