Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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he's a horrible bloke, always reminds of the archetypal dickhead where your intro to them is some idiot saying : you've got to meet this guy, he's really funny/a veritable "character" etc.. and invariably they are just horribly tiresome and ugly people.

calzino, Thursday, 29 August 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link

Gardening Is Good For Mental Health articles are starting to approach Fleabag frequency.

Madchen, Thursday, 29 August 2019 08:48 (four years ago) link

I carry no torch for Quantick, who may be horrible, but his comment on FLEABAG in and of itself looks inoffensive?

I think FLEABAG was a very good programme.

It is true, as Madchen also indicates, that there are certain Guardian go-to motifs (in current digital era). Morrissey used to be one, Taylor Swift might be also. Probably Jess Phillips?

I recently saw a book of 'inspiring women, by Chelsea Clinton', which included J.K. Rowling. And a week later I saw, in the Guardian, that Hillary Clinton was writing what sounded a very similar book but with more words and fewer pictures. I feel that these are quite Guardian-friendly.

Another example relevant to Madchen's comment: recent column by someone who said a gadget had changed his life and it was an alarm clock.

the pinefox, Thursday, 29 August 2019 09:05 (four years ago) link

no more slugabed misery!

mark s, Thursday, 29 August 2019 09:17 (four years ago) link

Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson - both, I think, quite suited for Guardian Weekend treatment.

Seems to me a key is people who can be quoted and presented as radicals, part of a 'resistance' to a dangerous world of populism, but who actually do not support radical things or do much to resist bad things.

Possibly this is unfair to Sturgeon as her flagship policy is a big geopolitical change.

Actually Anna Soubry would be a simpler example.

the pinefox, Thursday, 29 August 2019 09:26 (four years ago) link

Glad that's settled.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 29 August 2019 10:51 (four years ago) link

In 1994, Basic Channel put out Quadrant Dub, Phylyps II, Octagon and Radiance, any one of which changed music more than a bunch of throwbacks in parkas. Looking forward to them getting a BBC feature.https://t.co/A1l5QoqyAf

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) August 30, 2019

I like him a bit more

plax (ico), Saturday, 31 August 2019 06:30 (four years ago) link

omg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 31 August 2019 07:44 (four years ago) link

"Adidas trainers became a must and I had my own little Liam strut"

it "changed everything" for impressionable youngsters like Neil Warnock.

calzino, Saturday, 31 August 2019 08:00 (four years ago) link

No Cyrus, no credibility

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Saturday, 31 August 2019 08:07 (four years ago) link

Lol yes mon yersel aditya

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 31 August 2019 08:20 (four years ago) link

wow the Graun is good now

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 08:50 (four years ago) link

what was the name of that basic channel album where the cd was in a cool looking metal box, it might have been a comp of their eps. fuck knows - it was one of them artefacts that disappeared between house moves. aditya otm as ever.

calzino, Saturday, 31 August 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link

https://www.discogs.com/Basic-Channel-BCD/release/3545

iirc the packaging sometimes led to the CD ending up broken at some point

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

Chain Reaction? It was a cool metal box except for the fact that it was prone to damaging the CD inside. Opened mine after the last house move to find it snapped in two. Can't find my rip anywhere.

xp

Michael Jones, Saturday, 31 August 2019 09:26 (four years ago) link

Ah, right - BCD was the Basic C comp ('97), CRD was the Chain R comp ('00?).

Michael Jones, Saturday, 31 August 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link

yep I think it was chain reaction, lol cd probably got knackered as well.

calzino, Saturday, 31 August 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link

Why must there be a brexitland safari article every fucking week? It's like they've heard of this mythical thing called "journalism" and are clumsily trying to recreate it from the vastly inadequate materials they possess. Also john harris's fault of course.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/03/disaster-wigan-voters-little-appetite-election

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

that lisa nandy often sounds just as muddle-headed as her inarticulate constituents that inevitably get quoted in these bullshit pieces is bad imo.

calzino, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2019-09-11-how-the-uk-security-services-neutralised-the-countrys-leading-liberal-newspaper/amp/

some interesting stuff in this overview of one of the main reasons why the guardian is worse than it used to be

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:01 (four years ago) link

An excellent piece. Good to see particular attention on Luke Harding.

Publishing stuff directly provided by the security services without scrutiny is bad enough when it’s true, appalling when it’s not.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:32 (four years ago) link

You have to say this "Despite this, since January 2016, The Guardian has published 1,215 stories mentioning Labour and anti-Semitism, an average of around one per day" is incredible

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

jesus that is some really damning stats. at least that radical Toynbee can't be got to by GCHQ spooks or Graun editors in their pockets!

calzino, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:47 (four years ago) link

Very good piece, and damning for Viner.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link

ian cobain, one of the former guardian reporters mentioned in the article who has done great work on e.g. systematic torture carried about by british security services, was recently told he could not attend the "Defence and Security Equipment International" in london which I believe is the biggest arms fair in the world. "After reviewing your application we are unable to establish that you are a journalist/editor/production team member in a relevant field."

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:55 (four years ago) link

that's a helluva (depressing) read

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link

The Guardian finally responds to the original Q https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/08/guardian-coverage-britain-europe-1971
A: we have podcasts, liveblogs and Twitter now!

Stevie T, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

What am I supposed to do with this tote bag now

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link

use it to throw spooks off the scent

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

Further proof of the Graun's steep decline:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/13/100-best-albums-of-the-21st-century

pomenitul, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:09 (four years ago) link

the GCHQ/ILM approved top 100 albums!

calzino, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link

It'd be worth a Venn diagram if I wasn't so lazy…

pomenitul, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link

eh this just seems like a list of broadsheet newspaper music column music. not sure that I want like midtown 120 blues or something being dragged through this kindof indignity anyway.

plax (ico), Friday, 13 September 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

^^^^^

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 09:25 (four years ago) link

lol, it is bad when they mix some token good stuff into the usual run of the mill garbage!

calzino, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:26 (four years ago) link

I've not even hate-read Petridis in years and my life feels much better.

calzino, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link

they still repping for The Strokes? what the fuck is right with these people?

calzino, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:36 (four years ago) link

The least they could've done was name the 45 polled music writers (and add their individual lists). This is as useless as an old shopping list.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:37 (four years ago) link

no Gaz Coombes = what a joke list

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link

i'd rather see the petridis collection of wanking socks on a washing line than his personal list tbh!

calzino, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link

i mean it's a list isn't it they serve functional purpose to their publishers but as somebody said it's one of those where you almost stop liking the good things on it just cos of the tawdry company and conjunctions

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link

also who cares omg. I recently bought a paper edition of the guardian, something I haven't done in years, which reminded me of things I had sortof forgotten about newspaper layouts and helped explain why they are so bad. There is so much space that needs to be filled once advertising and expensive investigative journalism has been factored in. I had forgotten about all the "did you know?" boxes and realised how much of online content is just those elements repurposed only now they have their own page which makes them seem doubly redundant. These lists are literally puff and i don't know why anybody would bother reading somebody going blah blah blah vampire weekend blah blah blah

plax (ico), Friday, 13 September 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link

yeah even our eyerolls are engaging with the game :(

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 09:45 (four years ago) link

eh it seems fine enough for what it is. I like a lot of those albums. I couldn't really give a shit about those kind of lists though, although it may be a bit incongruous for a poster on website ILM to not be particularly enthused about ranking music in order

nobody should listen to any opinions I have about music anyway, I'm currently listening to a 90's ska punk album and liking it

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link

I'm a pretty damn mainstream listener and probably square in the demographic for this list. If there's nothing on the list that someone like me hasn't heard, it's not serving its purpose.

thomasintrouble, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

my taste in music is increasingly atrocious but i don't go around telling people that the stuff i like is the greatest especially when it is just a list of albums that were like "top itunes releases this week" or w/e. I guess this list was just written by the press team at a large music distribution firm.

plax (ico), Friday, 13 September 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link

I did add Midtown 120 Minutes to my download list tho

Colonel Poo, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link

and that's where it fails. the purpose surely for the distribution firms etc is to point yer average boring guardian readee like me to consume new music and generate more clicks/streams/sales. This list is so safe that it doesn't even serve that commercial purpose.

thomasintrouble, Friday, 13 September 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link

*reader...

thomasintrouble, Friday, 13 September 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link

If you think the albums list is bad you should check out the films list

or something, Friday, 13 September 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link


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