François Truffaut stars in Close Encounters of the Third Kind??????
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link
In at least one or two of the half dozen different cuts of the film, yes.
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
You've never seen it?
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
(xp)
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
I'm choosing to believe flappy has seen one of the Truffaut-lite cuts (because if he hasn't seen it at all, wtf). That whole extended bit toward the beginning with Francois and Bob Balaban was inserted later and I think he doesn't otherwise appear until the Devil's Tower sequence.
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link
I've only ever seen it once tbf and Truffaut being in it was one of the highlights.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
Never seen it
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link
Me neither
― YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
It's good!
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
Seeing it tmrw
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
Ah, you can report back. I hope Truffaut's in it.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
it's incredibly boring
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
YOU'RE incredibly etc.
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
boring is a fake idea
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
I watched some of it at a schoolmate's birthday party on VHS and all or most of us got bored and gave up
went to a newly-struck 35mm screening of the director's cut in 2013 and fell asleep around the time a squad of alienspotters were hanging out up a hill
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
Had no idea there were cuts without Truffaut, he adds a lot
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link
I don't think they removed any Truffaut in the later edits, they just added more Dreyfuss.
In the original theatrical cut there's the opening scene discovering the 5 planes in the sandstorm, finding the latitude & longitude on the globe, Truffaut demonstrating the hand signals, and the scene in India where everyone points at the sky. The first recut added the ship in the Sahara scene.
― Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 05:26 (four years ago) link
Fuck any version that doesn’t include the footage of the inside of the alien spacecraft. Spielberg hated it, but the studio wouldn’t let him do the Special Edition without it. NEVER LISTEN TO THE “GENIUSES”.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 5 September 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link
AFAICT there isn't a version that doesn't omit something. It's a little ridiculous.
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 September 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link
I wish any actually-released cut had included the scene where the plane we here in the air traffic control scene lands, and Truffaut's team shows up to confiscate the passengers' cameras. It's a good scene!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNG2FDKaZoQ
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Thursday, 5 September 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
Also the scene where Truffaut tests Balaban's translation skills by having him read an erotic novel.
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Thursday, 5 September 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
they should restore the footage from the aliens' homeworld imo
https://wwwcache.wralsportsfan.com/asset/voices/2018/02/21/17359747/creepy_alien_smile-DMID1-5dv72z0f6-220x242.gif
― mark s, Thursday, 5 September 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
that 'alpha' + 'beta' gives you 'alphabet', realised approximately 45 seconds ago while reading an introductory bit on Ancient Greek appropriation of Phoenician symbols. seriously, that has just blown a hole in my brain a mile wide
― Windsor Davies, Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link
welp
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
That whole extended bit toward the beginning with Francois and Bob Balaban was inserted later
Old Lunch factually wrong, cuz i saw it in '77, pal
u ppl should fall asleep to that Ridley Scott shit
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link
was def in my 30s before I realized the alpha+beta thing
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link
Forgiveness, Morbs, sorting out what is and is not included in the various cuts of Close Encounters requires some kind of flow chart, possibly a slide rule.
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link
So did I, and you're wrong. The movie has *always* opened with the black screen/credits w/swelling score crescendoing to a loud chord and the bright desert light of the Truffaut/Balaban/airplanes scene. Every cut.
This site details, down to the timecode, the differences among all extant versions, and there are none until 14 minutes into the movie. https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=491777
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
Even the comics adaptation opens with that scene!
https://savacoolandsons.blob.core.windows.net/photos/13003/13003-x95y.jpg
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
Also the promotional Topps trading cards were sequential and this card is #1 in the series:
https://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Non-Sport/75166/75166-1Fr.jpg
ANYWAY.
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
Okay fine, y'all are just going to badger me until I'm forced to admit that I hardly ever pay much attention to the first fifteen minutes of any movie because I'm too busy dancing around the room and singing the title over and over to the tune of Zapp's 'More Bounce to the Ounce'. Are you happy now? Are you?
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
Hold up, I am cuing the filmstrip proving you are wrong. One sec
― FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
And for final emphasis, Vincent Canby's NYT review of Nov. 17, 1977:
Though “Close Encounters” is strictly a product of the 70's in its dress and manners, its heart is in the 50's. This is apparent from the first scene, when a squadron of World War II fighter planes, missing on a training mission more than 30 years earlier, suddenly turn up intact, as good as new, in the Mexican desert. In classic sci‐fi manner, Mr. Spieiberg's screenplay then cuts from this general introduction to the “mystery” to encounters with the mystery by individual folks in Muncie, homespun types like you and me who draw into the adventure
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
Still loading the film strip
― FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
lol final emphasis, pal!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
Here, lemme see that thing a sec (grabs Close Encounters screenplay, uncaps Sharpie)
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
Filmstrip is jammed. Gotta wait for A/V to come down
― FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
The Truffaut? The Truffaut?! I can't handle the Truffaut!
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
Alright, so I held 'em up to the overhead light and it turns out the first 20 images on the filmstrip are indeed of Ol' Lunch dancing around the room, but he could be singing to the tune of ANYTHING. When will the lies end.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 5 September 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
I found out today that you can get wrist replacement operations, in the same way you can get a hip replacement op.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 5 September 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
If only there was also a way to cure the blindness...
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 September 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link
Leopold Stokowski was English.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 September 2019 09:12 (four years ago) link
The epitome of 'fake it till you make it'.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 7 September 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link
And one of his wives, the pianist “Olga Samaroff”, was actually a Texan named Lucy Hickenlooper.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
nous as in cop on derives from a Greek term not the french 1st person plural.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
This just occurred to me so be nice, but the terms high brow and low brow come from phrenology don't they?— Bill G (@morosevacuum) September 11, 2019
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 12 September 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link
Makes sense!
Don't know if it's been covered here but always happy to discuss how many terms derive from printing that people are often impressed by (pun intended!)
Uppercase and Lower Case, mind your Ps and Qs, stereotype and cliché are all ancient printing terms.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 12 September 2019 03:27 (four years ago) link
The keenest print historian I know disagrees about “mind your ps and qs “ fwiw - I saw an excellent discussion on this at a letterpress conference last year. But generally yes - “bodge” is another printing term in general use (in the uk at least).
― Tim, Thursday, 12 September 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link
(The idea is that ps and qs is a pun on please and thank you, on the basis that (a) there’s no documented instance of it being an old printers’ phrase, and (b) what it actually means -“mind your manners”, more or less - is nothing to do with what it would mean in a printing context, which would have to be something about paying attention or being accurate.)
― Tim, Thursday, 12 September 2019 06:36 (four years ago) link