hopefully JOKER will make up for that
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:53 (four years ago) link
I love Road Trip just because of one line "It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way."
― Yerac, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link
Road Trip is so mechanically, cynically bad.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link
And all kinds of bad -ists, iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
“Next up we’ve got ‘The Joker’ starring Joker... uh, Jack... Joking Phoenix”
Joe... Jo-Jack... Jo ack... Phone Jack
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link
Jaw-kin Penis...uh, Fenis. Phoenix.
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link
Joke phone I X
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
Are those Cam'ron lyrics
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link
debt to a certain Scorsese film looks obscene
https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review-joker-is-a-punishingly-self-serious-mishmash-of-borrowed-parts/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
so i here this has a subway scene based on bernie goetz but instead of black kids it's wall street execs harassing him
because the bad thing about the 1% is that they are always riding public transport and harassing the proles on them
― wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
Well, back in the early '80s there were no taxis or limousines, so rich and poor alike mingled freely on the subways. It was all part of the vibrant tapestry of city life, as depicted in at least three of Patti Smith's memoirs.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
Was reading Ebert's review of Todd Phillips's Due Date, which sounds like a similar "homage to"/steal from Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link
the Todd Phillips film i saw was a bootleg video of Frat House when i was in college iirc -- it was a very "serious" film about dumb dudes drinking beer and slapping the filmmakers across the face.
― omar little, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
An Oscar for that film would rile up the MCU creators and its fans and that in itself might be worth it.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link
That is a very hot + fresh + good take.
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link
Lol It would just mean that instead of three relatively light Marvel movies a year we would suddenly get a spate of "dark" Marvel movies.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
yeah, be careful what you wish forthis winter... Marvel Dark presents... STRIKEFORCE MORITURIactually that would be dopeMODOK UNBOUNDno that would be dope tooKA ZAR and HOWARD THE DUCK inactually, let's try this
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
I assume a dark Howard the Duck would involve him confronting the evil child molester from the first movie for extra #wokeness
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
cannot wait for tim burtons howard the duck to reveal that his daddy wanted him to be an accountant and thats why hes so sad now
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
has anyone seen this movie btw
is it any good
fwiw I haven't seen any reviews calling it bad, so ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
oh it's bad alright... bad to the bone... THE FUNNY BONE HAHAHAHAHAHAHEEEHEEEHEE IT'S JOKER TIME!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link
David Edelstein says "it panders to selfish, small-minded feelings of resentment and as such is profoundly boring. It’s a one-joke movie"..."monotonous, unpleasant, and morally blech"..."As Hannah Arendt saw banality in the supposed evil of the Nazi Adolf Eichmann, I see in Joker an attempt to elevate nerdy revenge to the plane of myth."
Glenn Kenny says "Fleck’s alienation in the early scenes evokes Travis Bickle’s, but this movie is too chicken-livered to give Fleck Bickle’s racism"..."As social commentary, “Joker” is pernicious garbage...The final minutes, which will move any sentient viewer to mutter “would you just pick a goddamn ending and stick to it?” are likely an indication of what kind of mess we would have had on our hands had Phillips been left entirely to his own cynical incoherent devices for the entire runtime."
Stephanie Zacharek says "the aggressive and possibly irresponsible idiocy of Joker overall is [Phillips'] alone to answer for. Phillips may want us to think he’s giving us a movie all about the emptiness of our culture, but really, he’s just offering a prime example of it"..."Joker — which was written by Phillips and Scott Silver — doesn’t have a plot; it’s more like a bunch of reaction GIFs strung together"..."Joker is dark only in a stupidly adolescent way, but it wants us to think it’s imparting subtle political or cultural wisdom."
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
oh, I've heard plenty of criticisms. But those reviews, were they entirely negative, or they did they just highlight things they didn't like that?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link
Reading those blurbs I get a sense they didn't like the film.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link
Amid calling it monotonous, unpleasant, boring, aggressively idiotic and stupidly adolescent, they did say that it had some positive aspects, yes. Feel better now?
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link
Critics man, just like those chad finance bros kicking the shit of the poor Joker when he is down on his knees. Can't a film have his dignity.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
I'll be really curious, once all the reviews show up, how the average, well, averages out.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link
did any of them say anything about the movie as opposed to whether they agreed with whatever theyre disagreeing is the point of the movie
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link
― gbx, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link
By some corners you mean the Jordan Peterson subreddit? Yeah I think so too.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link
otm
― gbx, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
how the average, well, averages out.
given that the average American movie critic is a tasteless shithead
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:55 (four years ago) link
from the Uhlich review that Morbs posted:
Fleck is a skeleton-thin jester who works the sidewalks and hospital wards while dreaming of stand-up stardom, and he gets viciously beat up by a group of delinquents in the film’s first scene. As he lays bleeding in a scum-soaked alley, the prop flower on his lapel drips out a pathetic, pissy stream of water. It would be funny if the direction and framing wasn’t so arrogantly humorless. “This is serious,” Phillips seems to be saying, as if he’s prosaically altered the anarchic mantra (“Why so serious?!?”) of Heath Ledger’s Joker in Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight. Fleck, at one of his many low points, does something similar to the “Don’t Forget to Laugh” sign in his workplace, blacking out “Forget to” with a marker so that it now reads “Don’t Laugh.” His action sums up Joker itself, which is made almost entirely out of the preexisting parts of other films, the connections reworked just enough to avoid outright plagiarism, and the results then slathered in a patina of paranoiac solemnity.
“This is serious,” Phillips seems to be saying, as if he’s prosaically altered the anarchic mantra (“Why so serious?!?”) of Heath Ledger’s Joker in Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight. Fleck, at one of his many low points, does something similar to the “Don’t Forget to Laugh” sign in his workplace, blacking out “Forget to” with a marker so that it now reads “Don’t Laugh.” His action sums up Joker itself, which is made almost entirely out of the preexisting parts of other films, the connections reworked just enough to avoid outright plagiarism, and the results then slathered in a patina of paranoiac solemnity.
― groovemaaan, Thursday, 12 September 2019 04:18 (four years ago) link
ya but is it any good I'm just trying to find that out
i get that many people who get paid to write about what they think movies ought to have done or meant seem to have written snippets here and there about what they object to in the message or politics of this effort
but is it any good is it a good movie
just want it sorted yknow
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:31 (four years ago) link
i hear yiz all that its awful that it was made, like.
but i mean some of you didnt even love watchmen ffs
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:37 (four years ago) link
1. Nobody’s seen it2. No
― YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:48 (four years ago) link
i'm holding out for Todd Phillips's's's Story of the Eye
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:50 (four years ago) link
ty wins
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:52 (four years ago) link
Hopefully it will run in a theater at some point that is not too far out of the way for one of us to see and report back.
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 12 September 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link
I got access to the script via a hub thing and yeah fuck ever seeing this
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 September 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
Waiting for the surprise Beyonce soundtrack drop.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 September 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link
Hub thing, looking for big fun
― ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link
I would have much less of a problem if Phoenix's "Joker" was a copycat who used the actual Joker as a conduit for his psychosis.
The first hour and a half depict a sullen and resentful comedian becoming increasingly obsessed with the real Joker. He learns everything he can, starts a youtube channel, starts to mimic his voice and mannerisms, has his channel demonetized, then goes on stage and delivers a Louis CK set as the Joker. Instead of Robert De Niro as Murray Franklin, it's Joe Rogan as Joe Rogan. After appearing on Joe Rogan our comedian decides that he is the Joker and that he's going to turn everyone in Gotham City into little Jokers. Then in the last ten minutes, while out clowning around he encounters the real Joker who kills him and walks away laughing. THE END. Think Single White Female but with more Jokers and no women.
― Françoise, Laurel, and Hardy (K. Rrosé), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link
might want to spoiler that eh
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
That is unironically a much-better sounding synopsis than the actual movie
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
A loser that posts to 4chan and lives with a random old lady he calls mother puts on makeup and starts stabbing people.
Runs for office one year later
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
have we been the victims of a crul joaq
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
lol
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link