Impeach Trump Y/N

It’s so weird to me that impeachment isn’t popular, even among non-Trump supporters. Don’t people want to be delivered from this horrorshow?

As far as I can tell, this "transcript" is nothing of the sort. If it's a transcript, there's a recording, but it's doubtful there is a recording (at least not on the US end). It's gotta be just notes or a summary again or something. And yet ... the whistleblower based their complaint on *something(s)*, so I'm more curious about that.

This is actually a reasonable question. The White House should formally clarify right away whether 1) any recordings of this call exist and 2) if it has authorized/requested that the government of Ukraine provide a tape if they have one. https://t.co/GxloSd9zOs

— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) September 25, 2019

Don’t people want to be delivered from this horrorshow?

― treeship.,

I want him gone ASAP. If this is the best way to deliver it, lets get on it. Otherwise, no point

continuing to do nothing is an implicit approval of his behavior.

this can't be repeated enough, jfc some of you are so goddamn stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hNr8WpVYI0

there are plenty of points, some of which you’ve acknowledged

Again, we don't even need the "transcript" because the president already admitted to what he did after lying about it.

At this point, given what we know, impeachment is both a professional duty and a moral imperative. Anybody who will not vote to impeach is both professionally incompetent and morally unfit to hold office.

so will we have two threads for this now

for now yes, but more are surely on their way

I Love Impeachment should be it's own board. Mods, it is your professional duty and moral imperative.

If this is the best way to deliver it, lets get on it. Otherwise, no point

So you only want Trump ousted in the best way and no other way? Great, let's bog down to paralysis for a few more months trying to determine the "best way." Meanwhile, I vote for "every way possible."

There is no option but to do it. No one can predict how it will go or what impact it will have on the election. But at some point they just have to have integrity and do it.

Like we need to stop gaming this out like we actually have the ability to figure out for certain how to deal with him. If there is a legit basis to impeach they should pursue it. If there isn’t then they should drop it. Period.

and the just-released transcript is even more delicious than we'd hoped

So you only want Trump ousted in the best way and no other way?

I want him ousted in a way that works. but not in a way that doesn't work

I'm not actually anti-impeachment, its completely fine as a tactical exercise if the end goal isn't actually removal

ousted in a way that doesn't work?

A view I don't nec agree with

It’s going to hurt Bernie and elevate Warren. This isn’t his turf. No fast food workers, teachers, or people with crushing medical bills will be at all those hearings or the trial. They will be disappeared. It’s 24/7 TV impeachment drama time now and that’s Harvard Law prof turf.

— Dan Kervick (@DanMKervick) September 24, 2019

Pretty sure there will be fast food workers on hand at a Trump hearing.

Lol the media pretty much erases Bernie and all of those people no matter what.

I dont think the people with crushing medical bills will forget about themselves that easily, even if NBC forgets about them

Pretty sure there will be fast food workers on hand at a Trump hearing.

Definitely fast food eaters.

ousted in a way that doesn't work?

― nashwan,

exactly, if its going to work, we should do it! But i guess there's no harm in doing it regardless if we're realistic about the outcome

I am hoping this Ukraine bungle was just the slip that starts the avalanche. It is a cinch that once the House committees draw up articles of impeachment, there will be a very long list of them. It is in their interests to load the shotgun with as many buckshot as possible, which will force the Senate to vote individually on each article. I don't think McConnell would be brazen enough to not bring the articles to a floor vote.

I don't think McConnell would be brazen enough to not bring the articles to a floor vote.

boy i sure do

i'm pretty sure he would burn the building down first.

he said that sabotaging the merrick garland nomination was his proudest moment in politics. i'm sure he'd be even more proud to sabotage an impeachment vote

when mitch mcconnell was young he took all of his shame and put in a giant suitcase, and hit it under a bed. then he found a bunch of small children who were democrats and locked them in the room, and burned the entire building down

Calls have grown for House Democrats to move forward with impeachment proceedings against President Trump, leading to sharp divisions within the party and the American public. The Onion looks at the pros and cons of impeaching the president. https://t.co/IEqFBD3a36 pic.twitter.com/Bm66797TyR

— The Onion (@TheOnion) September 25, 2019

I Love Impeachment should be it's own board. Mods, it is your professional duty and moral imperative.

― ☮ (peace, man)

it is no such thing

"I'm not actually anti-impeachment, its completely fine as a tactical exercise if the end goal isn't actually removal

― anvil"

can't you just take up warhammer 40k as a hobby or something, christ

it is no such thing

It absolutely is the duty of all the paid mods on this site to collaboratively generate and launch said board. They are profoundly derelict if this has not happened by COB GMT, and should be stricken of their performance bonuses.

there are paid mods on this site? damn. i feel sorry for anybody who's an internet moderator for money, that sounds like a really shit job

i don't speak sarcasm very well these days. could you eli5 the problem with what i said? thanks.

rushomancy, I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I was making fun of you - that's not what my post is about at all. I 100% support the impeachment for exactly the reasons that you laid out! But it is sort of my hobbyhorse these days that I continue to advocate for a separate I Love Politics board. It's almost as much of a thing for me as my belief in the superiority of Weezer's Green album to their Blue one. Definitely wasn't attacking you and again, I'm sorry.

I Love Weezer's Green Album

you are all on drugs

I can't help these feelings.

i can't control my brain

I don't know how to feel about it. A lot of people, myself included, have stopped talking about politics because it doesn't seem like there's a point. What is there to talk about? Do, or do not. My political engagement at this point consists of me going around saying "Hi, I'm trans" to everybody I meet while still presenting as cis. Which has fuck-all to do with impeachment... yes, I've been drinking.

Can anyone here email me the whistleblower report?

I heard it blows.

1/9 For the non-historians out there: I am a historian of US foreign policy who has read more documents like this than I can remember, so a few thoughts on the Trump MemCon.
1) This is not verbatim, as the document states. It is a sort of summary, which is very different.

— Brad Simpson (@bradleyrsimpson) September 25, 2019

you can tell by the pixels

"I'm no treason! You're the treason!"

*Licks lips, shifts eyes*

"No treason!"

GOP people in this hearing notably not defending Trump, kind of going in circles about perceived legal confusion or whatever.

This whole thing is like when you are suddenly added onto a telecon and no one seems to know what you do but they keep asking you the same stupid questions where you have to constantly explain your job.

This might be the first witness I have ever seen, especially under this admin, tell the congressperson that they still have time on the clock.

Rep. Ratcliffe stated that the president was seeking information from Ukraine on an ongoing criminal investigation. Is there a criminal investigation into either Biden or is this just 100% bullshit?

That's precisely the point that MSNBC interrupted yesterday's press conference to dispute (it's bullshit).