Impeach Trump Y/N

i legit had a great week because of the impeachment energy. bummer that poll is only 50 / 45 in support and yet a majority feels more significant than the numbers themselves suggest, somehow.

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it's been only 48 hours!

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it's also rising quickly. just now i was reading the david brooks opinion piece "Yes, Trump is Guilty, but Impeachment is a Mistake", because i hate myself, and he was citing the quinnipiac poll showing 37% support.

by the way, his second argument is that impeachment is elitist because it puts the decision in the hands of 100 people instead of letting everyone vote on it

xp I don't really see a look on her face tbh, just a blank smile. I actually met her once, in a gay bar in SF when she was visiting her brother, she seemed ok in person at the time, I never would have thought she would become this toxic

If the US Constitution hadn't been written by elitists looking to keep the hoi-polloi well under wraps, there would never have been an electoral college and Trump would never have been elected. You say you want "everyone" voting on who's president, then first you must get rid of the fucking EC. Stupid goddamn David Brooks can eat a bag of dicks.

how can we impeach david brooks?

Stupid goddamn David Brooks can eat a bag of dicks.

OTM

it's crazy. here's the actual text (bold and italics in original)

This is completely elitist. We’re in the middle of an election campaign. If Democrats proceed with the impeachment process, it will happen amid candidate debates, primaries and caucuses. Elections give millions and millions of Americans a voice in selecting the president. This process gives 100 mostly millionaire senators a voice in selecting the president.

As these two processes unfold simultaneously, the contrast will be obvious. People will conclude that Democrats are going ahead with impeachment in an election year because they don’t trust the democratic process to yield the right outcome. Democratic elites to voters: We don’t trust you. Too many of you are racists!

er, i forgot putting that in quote formatting makes every word italic. the original has the last bit ('democratic elites to voters...') in italics.

(i don't know why i'm honing in on the italics, and the proper carryover of the italics to a new format, so much. seems important)

anyway, the wild irony of david brooks saying that supporting impeachment means supporting "democratic elites" sending the message to voters that "too many of you are racists!", in an essay arguing that the current completely racist elitist president should get to serve out the rest of his term

Thanks to the EC the muculent Infowars-hat wearing blob sitting on a porch in Wyoming with a shotgun on his lap gets jest as much a say in who's President than those godless pussies in California!

more of a say

Democrats are going ahead with impeachment in an election year because they don’t trust the democratic process to yield the right outcome.

Impeachment is bill of indictments for presidential crimes against the nation and his oath of office, and it results in a criminal trial by the senate. Does David Brooks understand what it means to have the head of state engaging in "high crimes" against the state, or the consequences of blithely choosing to leave him office for another 15 months?

Brooks' brain has turned to mush.

He is also the dude that said Whitewater was a more substantive scandal than Russiagate.

many people are saying that his brain is actually the direct descendant of mash potatoes and mush

mashed potatoes!
mashed!

goddammit this night's gone to mush

*italian chef kiss*

RIP David Brooks

I love these new rules wrt election years they pull outta their ass. No impeachment! No supreme court nominations! Why? Cause an election will happen in less than 2 years duh it's just common sense.

just trying to get some of my american facts right. impeachment (not removal from office) only requires the majority of the house, which the democrats have, and then the impeachment trial is done in the senate, which the republicans control. is this right? so it makes political sense for the democrats to drag the house portion out for a while.

it’s their way of helping out popcorn farmers hurt by the tariff battles

Except they apparently want to get it done as quickly as possible

are you basing that on the public statements of a politician?

just trying to get some of my american facts right. impeachment (not removal from office) only requires the majority of the house, which the democrats have, and then the impeachment trial is done in the senate, which the republicans control. is this right? so it makes political sense for the democrats to drag the house portion out for a while.

I thought the idea was to do things in as much public view as possible to help the public see the actuality of what had happened not the spin they were used to. So as much of the investigation being able to get out to people as possible through the better instead of speedily rushing it so it was concluded the wrong way.

huh?

The process of impeachment was supposed to be exposing how much wrong had been done so the public were fully aware of things instead of just dismissing them as just another nothing burger was supposed to be as important as getting things done as fast as possible.
So the weight would be the public actually wanting to make sure wrongdoing was punished instead of it being spun so they would see justice as being done if the Republican partisan senate dismissed it as an attack on their beloved President. That all the democratic party were ganging up on because they lost the 2016 election, not because there was an idiotic despot threatening the continued existence of the planet in a daily basis since he was allowed to get into power.

Re: speedy impeachment process

NEW w/ @rachaelmbade -- Dems eye impeachment sprint over coming weeks...
-Intel Cmte takes lead on Ukraine as other cmtes wrap probes
-Few, if any hearings
-No set timeline, but some Dems eyeing floor vote around T'givinghttps://t.co/u95zqb9K1k

— Mike DeBonis (@mikedebonis) September 26, 2019

from David Remnick's new profile of Pelosi:

Earlier this week, Pelosi said, she took a call from Trump, who started out talking about guns. “The President, as you know, is big on what he claims is the charm offensive,” she said. “And some of his charm offensive is very offensive. He was calling me ostensibly to talk about guns, and I have to take him seriously if that is the purpose of the call. I welcome any overture to talk about gun safety. He was telling me progress was being made with his work with Democrats and Republicans. My point was, ‘I don’t know what Democrats you were talking to. We sent you a bipartisan bill over two hundred days ago, and that’s the way to save the most lives.’ ”

That was the first part of the conversation. “Then he somehow segued into what was happening now—that this phone call [with Zelensky] was ‘perfect.’ ‘When you hear this phone call, it was perfect.’ And I said, ‘No, it was wrong. . . . You understand your words weigh a ton. The words of the President of the United States weigh a ton.’ ” Pelosi told me that she doesn’t normally talk about calls with a President—“It’s a historic thing, a call between the President and the Speaker of the House”—but this was different.

When I asked Pelosi if she thought Trump knows, in this instance or any other, the difference between right and wrong, she replied, “He knows the difference between right and wrong, but I don’t know that he really cares. I do think his categorical imperative is what’s good is what is right for him. In the campaign, he told us who he was. He said that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and nobody would care, that his supporters wouldn’t care. Well, he could violate our Constitution, the integrity of our elections, and dishonor his oath of office, as he did in this call, and think that nobody cares.”

I don't know, sounds to me like Rudy has it pretty much figured out. Soros, Hillary, 2016 Ukrainian election interference, Bidens, servers ... Dems should hold off and see where he goes with this, maybe save us all some trouble.

Pelosi on Morning Joe: "It's no use to say 'We'll finish by such-and-such a date,' but the administration is hastening this process by providing these documents."

Here, let me stave off these outrageous claims that I 'robbed a bank' by showing you the multitude of luxury goods I bought with the money. Now can we just drop this nonsense already? Sheesh.

I dont even really understand what they think happened with ukraine and the server to be honest

Here, let me stave off these outrageous claims that I 'robbed a bank' by showing you the multitude of luxury goods I bought with the money. Now can we just drop this nonsense already? Sheesh.

― Steampunk wasn't in my vocapulary 6 days ago. (Old Lunch),

This is, word for word, what the White House has in mind, and I use "mind" losely.

It's pretty clear to me that Hillary Clinton, with the help of George Soros, enlisted Ukraine to help interfere in the 2016 election that she lost.

But, as with Russian collusion, the objective of their crimes was never realized - so it’s more like they got caught in the bank vault and released the security cam footage and are saying “see we never walked out with any money, case dismissed.”

Why did trump say biden was given “millions and millions of dollars” from china after a “one hour meeting”?

They’re working from a whole different narrative

may have to sacrifice Biden here, you guys

Mueller wrote a pretty damning report over the last couple of years which would quite probably have sunk most incumbencies but it was heavily quashed by the Republican party. So a lotof the population aren't aware of the contents still or think its a libtard spin on 'the facts.
I thought the idea of any further moves towards impeachment was to bring as much of the current incumbency's wrongdoing to light as possible in a way that wouldn't be able to be distracted from. & that did bring as many people as possible from the current regime to public scrutiny so that a Republican senate couldn't be allowed to be presented with damning evidence and just dismiss it.
I know there is some time limit to whatever processes are followed, during which t will remain a constant threat to common decency and security for the US and the rest of the globe, but time needed to be taken to ensure all points were established as fully as possible.
Against which there will be a constant attempt at distraction/occlusion whatever by the Republicans who don't want their beloved leader to be taken from his throne.
JUst hoping that what is attempted will stick and this turd will be removed before he can do more permanent damage.

Increasingly clear that the House GOP are sticking with the "so what?" defense, which, tbf, is pretty hard to counter.

Heard a talking head or reporter yesterday who said he had spoken to a bunch of young people, 18 and 19-year-olds, and the element that jumped out at them the most was Trump trying to get dirt on someone, because that was something they definitely understood.

I dont even really understand what they think happened with ukraine and the server to be honest

I don't think Trump does either. afaik it has never even come up as a conspiracy theory before so it's either a joke or he's thinks the internet is like a series of tubes and Clinton may have diverted the trucks that carry the e-mails through the tubes to Dnepropetrovsk.

And since the first option would require for Trump to have a sense of humour, it's definitely the second option.

He absolutely has a sense of humor! Like how he always insists he was joking when he gets called out for saying something which, on the face of it, seems deeply unhinged. It's not his fault that we don't get the joke.

“Rep. Adam Schiff fraudulently read to Congress, with millions of people watching, a version of my conversation with the President of Ukraine that doesn’t exist,” the president said in a tweet.

“He was supposedly reading the exact transcribed version of the call, but he completely changed the words to make it sound horrible, an (sic) me sound guilty,” he wrote.

lol

sorry typo, I meant GODDAMMIT YOU FUCKING INSECT BEGONE FROM MY PRESENCE

In the absence of means to refute or corroborate his claim, I guess we just have to take the president at his word, huh.

DJP we’ve had our differences but harsh

The Democrats are now to be known as the DO NOTHING PARTY!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 27, 2019

...says the leader of our country, who has written eleven tweets already this morning.

Impeachment hearings are doin something