I'm starting to feel left out. Is there something Ontario could get alienated about?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 27 September 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link
i read the platforms and it’s striking how similar they all are, four very cautious centrist parties is an unexpected equilibrium for a parliamentary system. think ill vote for ndp because of the pharmacare proposal. but i would vote for libs if i weren’t in a safe riding, conservatives repealing the carbon tax would be a disaster
― flopson, Friday, 27 September 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link
I was able to download comprehensive platforms (as a single PDF) from the NDP and Greens (and BQ). Do the Conservatives and Liberals have anything like that? I couldn't find one on either party's website, in English or in French.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 28 September 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link
Centrist party platforms are pretty ironic right now considering the rhetoric of so many “regular” people has moved into the land where the fringe is conflated with a full half of the middle. I saw a meme on fb today attacking certain current party leaders as false and disloyal to their roots and damn if that wasn’t the most refreshing thing in ages.
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Sunday, 29 September 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
(I am glad we have centrist platforms)
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Sunday, 29 September 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link
Heard a story on the radio about Liberal candidates in diehard blue ridings in AB. Some interesting things: they leave "Team Trudeau" off their signs there and emphasize that voters would be voting for a local candidate who could represent their riding's concerns in the government, not for Trudeau himself. But most startling to me was that it is apparently a somewhat common belief there that the Liberal government spent $4.5B to buy the TransMountain pipeline because they have a hidden agenda to kill the project and ensure that it never gets built.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
Would love for that to be true lol
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 01:50 (four years ago) link
So the election has been officially called and Parliament will be dissolved tomorrow, although we've basically been enduring a campaign already. I hate that we have fixed election dates now.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
Oh lol, somehow a tweet from September was at the top of my feed. Fixed election dates still terrible though.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
Hm, somehow I missed that we are going ahead with the French university in Ontario after all: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1289247/uof-entente-universite-ontario-francais-francophone
It's still being planned for Toronto?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
Ford confirmed closet francophile.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
Great news!
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
Ha, yeah, Ford strategy seems to be to slash and burn and then recant a little wrt the things where people protest the most (which I think means people with disabilities usually get screwed). Like some weird head game with the public on the provincial scale. I gather the feds stepped in to salvage this one? Interesting to me that Cornwall in Eastern Ontario has also bid to host the university; I could see the case for it.
So apparently they did track Adamson down.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
Turned into the French debate. I'm actually glad they're discussing seniors and long-term care. Trudeau did pretty well there imo. Scheer vs Singh on the economy and environment now.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link
If I'm understanding Scheer, the way to reduce global emissions is to promote the Canadian oil industry and build more pipelines bc Canadian oil is cleaner than those of other countries?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:53 (four years ago) link
Trudeau's strategy seems to be to ideologically contrast his record with Scheer's proposals, emphasizing Scheer's ties to Ford and Kenney; to mostly ignore Singh; and to stress that the BQ won't get anything done in Opposition.
Blanchette is a v good speaker.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link
Scheer's 'Corridor Énergetique' is somewhat reminiscent of, um, a National Energy Program.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:06 (four years ago) link
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, October 2, 2019 9:04 PM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Are you talking about the debate or the past 5 years that’s right political joke getting ready for jfl 2020
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:50 (four years ago) link
Ha.
Trudeau vs Blanchet on Quebec's place in Canada was kind of epic.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link
Was there foreign policy discussion at the debate?
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 October 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
None iirc, though I missed a bit. The topics were immigration and social policy, the environment, the economy, and Quebec/Canada relations iirc. Foreign policy is a scheduled topic for the Oct 7 and Oct 10 debates.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 October 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link
Hm, I never thought about this possible angle before. I do remember we discussed the FIPA when it happened and May was the only leader who brought it up in 2015.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 4 October 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/31/justin-trudeau-kinder-morgan-pipeline-china-did-he-fear-being-sued
Or maybe it’s just good practice to keep promises for foreign companies investing in your country, especially in a context with more authoritarians nations that can claim that the leadership will be the same in the next 10 years so projects don’t carry risk.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 4 October 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link
I wanted to add that just compensating KM for the lost business opportunity would have been enough for me, in that optic. I am still very mad that they are trying to build an actual pipeline.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
French-speakers, this controversy about the BQ leader asking for votes for people who "resemble you" is BS, right?
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
i think spending billions on a pipeline that both shouldn't and more importantly won't be built was cool as hell personally
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
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yes
i mean he could have been dog-whistling but linguistically it doesn't look that way to me
― sean gramophone, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
I have a hard time buying that they would be unaware of the current political climate in Quebec and what such words would represent and trigger in the public discourse.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
Fuck the Bloc, but 'qui vous ressemble(nt)' is pretty banal commercial-speak in French and not necessarily a dog whistle. It can be used for inanimate objects as well as for people, e.g. 'un hôtel qui vous ressemble'.
― pomenitul, Friday, 4 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
Yeah, this is just bad translation. There are many actual things on which the Bloc should be called out on instead of this.
― silverfish, Friday, 4 October 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-quebec-government-moves-to-ban-popular-bilingual-greeting-bonjourhi/
The CAQ's platform boils down to pnwning Montreal, it seems.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 October 2019 07:48 (four years ago) link
In other news, Andrew Scheer is a dual Canadian-American citizen. I kind of assume that to be secretly true for all Conservatives, though?
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 October 2019 07:50 (four years ago) link
The bonjour-hi opposition is so infuriatingly dumb. Besides, I've already noticed it being used a lot less after the last resolution. And ime it's often replaced by "allô"...not exactly a resounding victory for the french language lmao
― rob, Saturday, 5 October 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link
How about just 'lo' as in 'lo and behold!'?
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 October 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link
There's restricting free speech and then there's trying to stop people from saying "hi". This seems a bit like trolling tbh. Crazy that the PLQ seem to be more supportive of it than the PQ?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 October 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
Is it that the PLQ has more to prove in terms of credibility on language issues?
― jmm, Saturday, 5 October 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link
wow your guys' politics are unreal
― j., Saturday, 5 October 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
Can't tell whether that's a good or a bad thing at this point.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 October 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
*cue indignant but toothless response from RoC*
Nationalists: "Ah, more evidence that our values are incompatible. Sovereignty may be our only option."
Wash, rinse, repeat.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 October 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
Tbf, Blanchet made a point of his appreciation of Quebec's anglo minority. Interested to see his response to this.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 October 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
scheer calling out dual US citizens in 2005 is pretty funny: https://web.archive.org/web/20051208133657/http:/andrewscheermp.blogspot.com/
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Saturday, 5 October 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
Sund4r otm
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 5 October 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
"Andrew Scheer: secretly American" is a pretty good twist.
― jmm, Saturday, 5 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
― pomenitul, Saturday, October 5, 2019 3:48 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
they should change it to ‘bonjour, bitch’
― flopson, Saturday, 5 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
Welcome to the QC, bitch
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Saturday, 5 October 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
Sounds pretty bad ass tbh.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 October 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
Fuck a Tory but I don't get the issue with Scheer's dual citizenship (aside from lols @ his 2005 comments)? Not only was a PM as recent as John Turner a dual citizen but there was not even such a thing as Canadian citizenship distinct from British subjecthood prior to 1947, acc. to this: https://thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/citizenship .
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 October 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
Here's andrew coyne's case: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/elections/andrew-coyne-you-cant-be-leader-of-one-country-and-pledge-allegiance-to-another/ar-AAIiWet?ocid=st
but I agree with Sund4r
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
i think Michael Ignatieff lived in canada for like 5% of his adult life or something
― flopson, Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link