Impeach Trump Y/N

I had a guy in his early 20s recently ask me "so I've been hearing about democrats and uh what's the other ones? repulicans? yeah. what's the deal with them, what are the differences?". I don't think he's all that unusual in just being totally ignorant wrt politics.

yes that was normal even 30 years ago

meanwhile:

Economist/YouGov Poll:

should House try to impeach Trump?

50% yes
39% no

if House impeaches, should Senate remove Trump from office?

51% yes
39% no

— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) October 4, 2019

NEW: House Democrats seek Ukraine-related documents from VP Pence as part of impeachment inquiry. - @AlexNBCNews pic.twitter.com/crDfEw7TZn

— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 4, 2019

FYI, I have like 6 Gmail addresses and one of them is signed up for Trump emails (as "Bob Dobalina"). Here's the one I got today:

Bob,

I need your help.

I’m working hard to make sure the Democrats and their media lapdogs hold Quid Pro Joe accountable for his LIES and his son’s corrupt actions.

But, the FAKE NEWS MEDIA refuses to tell the truth about Sleepy Joe’s dirty past.

It’s time to take charge. If the FAKE NEWS media won’t report the truth, then WE WILL.

My team just launched an ad to FIGHT BACK against their biased coverage. We need to raise $1,000,000 in the next 24 hours to FLOOD THE AIRWAVES with this ad, so we’re turning to our best supporters for help.

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We can’t let the Left turn the tables on us. They are trying to turn a Biden Scandal into a Trump Scandal by calling for my IMPEACHMENT.

The American People deserve to know the TRUTH about Joe and Hunter Biden, and it’s up to Patriots like YOU to hold them accountable.

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"Quid Pro Joe" and "Sleepy Joe" - two nicknames in two paragraphs! That's some brilliant politickin'!

Been a while since Trump used "hereby" in a tweet, he must not be taking this stuff that seriously.

They are trying to turn this thing I'm trying to turn into a Biden scandal back into a Trump one lol this fuckin guy

can't wait til someone other than Biden gets the nomination

lol at Bob Dobalina

It is of my opinion that the people are impeaching...

if i have a point (i might not) it's this: the chuds are not our misfortune

Breaking via NBC: Weeks before the whistleblower's complaint became public, the CIA's top lawyer made what she considered a criminal referral to the Justice Dept. about the whistleblower's allegations that Trump abused his office in pressuring Ukraine. https://t.co/bVMDEveD79

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 4, 2019

amazing

#derpstate

Rumors being reported of a second CIA whistleblower with even more extensive details than the first.

not following this at all but just wanna vent that all the ppl on my twitter feed who would not stfu about how pelosi was too chicken to do impeachment are all completely silent now that impeachment is actually happening

Quel surprise

i guess i should be happy that they have at least stfu

yup I’ve been enjoying that tbh

Here we go
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/464480-second-intel-official-considering-filing-complaint-over-trump-report

And
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/04/republican-sen-ron-johnson-just-did-trump-no-favors-ukraine/

The 2nd whistleblower has information about Trump’s dealing with Ukraine, right? I want the Trump tax return whistleblowers to come forward and hit him where it hurts. His credulity as a successful billionaire.

errr... credibility

was hoping someone else would post this but since no one has... kinda lol but mostly sad?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-have-long-worried-aides-leaving-some-genuinely-horrified/2019/10/04/537cc7a8-e602-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html

not following this at all but just wanna vent that all the ppl on my twitter feed who would not stfu about how pelosi was too chicken to do impeachment are all completely silent now that impeachment is actually happening

― flopson, Friday, October 4, 2019 8:57 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Quel surprise

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 4, 2019 9:04 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i guess i should be happy that they have at least stfu

― flopson, Friday, October 4, 2019 9:05 PM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yup I’ve been enjoying that tbh

― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, October 4, 2019 9:07 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

reporting live, as a person who stfu about it: i stfu about it because she finally did it because...she finally did it. not sure if i'm supposed to keep urging her to impeach, may consider raising it again

dunno how much credit pelosi should get for lucking into an even more blatant set of reasons to impeach, it being the right thing to do now doesn't mean it was wrong to pursue it then

she deserves a lot of credit for understanding the moment to do it

Y'know, if (IF) any of this manages to stick and/or hurt Trump, one of the more bizarre ironies will be...

Wait. Let me work up to this. The story has already involved Nickelback and Romney as partly good guys, so it's going to take some doing to get the tone here exactly right.

As it stands today, the institution that is doing the most to insist on the rule of law and call attention to unwarranted abuse of power... is... the CI frickin A?

the implication from most of those posters was she would never do it bc she didn’t have it in her was terrible couldn’t lead etc etc

ditto xxxxp (Jesus Christ, all the fucking posts)

she had no choice

her previous "he wants us to impeach him, so we won't" was dopey even for a 'cover story'

nice to see Pelosi Crew is still intact, maybe you can help her marginalize the Squad when this is over

xxp at least credit her with recognizing that those new charges that she 'lucked into' were of a different quality that could be more easily sold to the public as an abuse of power, allowing a more aggressive response.

LOL

She followed the caucus, which is what she always does

Events pushed a solid majority of the caucus behind impeachment, she took note of this and acted accordingly

xxp sure

agree with Οὖτις

Events pushed a solid majority of the caucus behind impeachment, she took note of this and acted accordingly

sure, this is true. i just don't understand why i'm expected to applaud pelosi for her restraint and timing (as opposed to just stfu about her and impeachment, since she finally did it). as morbs mentioned, she's gone out of her way to paint the squad and their proposals as the fringe, even though a core aspect of their appeal was and is representing the viewpoint of several dozen americans who are like "FUCK, get this guy out of office for once of his uncountable crimes, NOW". and when the rising tide finally forced pelosi to act, she did. great. but i wouldn't exactly call her a leader on, more like another box that was checked off along the way. maybe it will turn out that her strategy on impeachment was so impeccable that there was no other way it could have happened. but i can also spin a tale of the democrats impeaching trump as soon as it was clear that his campaign crime spree had continued on into his administration, which iirc was around late jan 2017

several dozen americans

lol, i meant "several dozen million" but then googled to see how often that had ever been used (45K) and never went back to correct it. rest of the paragraph is rock solid and indisputable though

(if it's not clear i love you all and i enjoy these mini-debates, even if i'm insufferable sometimes)

in this tale i spin, the democrats control the house btw

if it's not clear i love you all and i enjoy these mini-debates, even if i'm insufferable sometimes)

srsly thank y’all for keeping me sane through this shit

s-ing tfu is vastly preferable to ranting "oh NOW she's ready to impeach huh, with multiple communications and confessions on record? well la-di-dah Ms Slowpoke, he could have been in jail two months ago and we'd be living in a socialist utopia by now" or w/e

from her perspective rn, waiting for the tide to turn inside and outside her caucus seems like it was a canny play - it's less than a year since the election! - and doubters can still come back and yell on twitter about her waiting too long if it doesn't pan out. win/win (except for everybody losing bar Putin and Zuckerberg)

Any secret WH lurkers on this thread, read this:

I don't know who needs to hear this, but back in the day, when I was a lawyer, over 30 years, I represented 2 high-functioning narcissistic sociopaths.
So I know how the endgame is going to be played out:
Bail out now, enablers. Quit. Cut your best deal. 1/x pic.twitter.com/zdYxGVz0OY

— Dean Gloster (@deangloster) October 5, 2019

No one knows what will happen tomorrow, let alone next week or next month, but if anything comes of this beyond impeachment (which is a given) it's that he could resign with the possibility of a deal that keeps him out of jail. Obvious or no, my wife called it: if his personal business and fortune is at stake, that's when he'll cut and run. The others in his cohort, his kids, his cabinet, I have no idea what becomes of them. Regardless, in office or not he will continue to comport himself in disgrace, and I could also imagine his life playing out like OJs, a semi-pariah who lucked out of jail but couldn't help themselves and kept fucking up. At the very least he will not stop blurting and tweeting and grabbing the headlines until he is dead.

Re: Pelosi, she's handling it well now, calmly, seriously, but it felt like she was the last domino to fall, not the one marshaling support. I did hear that something like all but eight House Dems support impeachment now. Has that number been shrinking because of her? Or are these the people even she couldn't sway? Who knows, doesn't really matter now.

Yeah Pelosi stepped in shit. Let's not pretend she didn't almost blow this, Dummy just gave her a huge assist.

This is an valuable side discussion, well done

Pelosi is a canny political operator. The idea that a superficial read of her statements reflected her intentions as this built was absurd.

The impeachment case is far stronger now. It’s almost like this woman has reached her position because she knows something about politics.

what is this assumed world some of you live in where people in congress have "no choice" but to do their professional duty

have you looked at a republican lately

"that's like 5 people" xp

Grancy herself said Dems had "no choice"

I guess she has inherited Obama's old 9-dimensional Vulcan chess set

"with friends like these...."

I like the crazy (which is to say, totally plausible) Michael Ian Black prediction:

Crazy prediction: Mike Pence resigns to spend more time with Mother, Trump appoints Nikki Haley before resigning himself in exchange for a pardon and then Haley becomes the 2020 Republican presidential nominee against Warren in a first-ever all female presidential contest.

— Michael Ian Black (@michaelianblack) October 5, 2019