Swinging London isn't really hippies is it? Not all youth culture/counterculture in the '60s was hippie culture.
-- Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:50 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
london hippies sort of came after the classic mid-sixties 'swinging london', which was aesthetically very un-hippie, more mod (but not quite real mod). they were sort of a part of it, sort of not. by 1969 david bailey looked like a hippy.
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
basically "was syd barrett a hippy"?
semantic problem. aesthetically, "hippie" tends to denote too much sloppiness.
― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
if you think of swinging london as meaning the opening scene of 'austin powers', then that's not hippie.
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
or cliched tie-ins with more spiritual and natural cultures
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― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
but there's no denying that there's something that still resonant today in those desires
― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Based on the "Summer of Love" exhibit at the Whitney museum, the hippie aesthetic had a lot to do with saturated colors, amoeba-shapes, toplessness, and swirling lights.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link
we had that in london too, kind of independently of what was happening in san francisco (and kind of not).
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Boyle
― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link
I can get behind this "toplessness" aesthetic, most of the time.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link
hippies rule as long as they are bubble puppy
http://www.recordresearch.com/Album_Photos/images/Bubble%20Puppy.jpg
http://home.austin.rr.com/david709/lavinghouse2.jpg
http://home.austin.rr.com/david709/parlament.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
first pic, not hippies
― Ed, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, pls to post a photo of yourself for comparison
― Ed, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/355781246_b869e2a3e4_o.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
AAAAAAAAAAA!
― kenan, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Sorry, you scared me. You can't just sneak up on people like that! I could've had a heart attack!
― kenan, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link
what would you call them in the first pic if you're not calling them hippies?
― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Dandies.
― C. Grisso/McCain, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Fops, psychedelic post-mods
― Ed, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link
i look like a marine now though. a really gay one. i know, are there any other kind? but still...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link
i think there's gray area here
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― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
they just wanted to look spiffy for their album cover! i think they generally just looked like the pictures below the album cover.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't think fops are allowed in texas.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
10s of thousands are currently en route to arkansas's ozark national forest for the annual rainbow family gathering. the towns up there are worried.
― andrew m., Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I move to Asheville, NC on Sunday.
― wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 28 June 2007 01:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I love and miss Asheville. I spent a few months in that area back in '01 and have been aching to get back there since. Mellow Mushroom downtown is a great place for pizza, but there's a restaurant in Black Mountain whose name I've forgotten that rules also.
As an avowed ex-hippie (90s version), I have to say that "it felt good at the time." But last summer I encountered a number of Rainbow types who had migrated to southern California afterward. They impressed me with their hypocrisy about the sort of social issues that hippies are supposed to care about.
The prime example was one of them standing outside of an organic food co-op, whining about Babylon and The Man, then going over to a nearby supermarket chain to buy ground beef and Con-Agra potatoes to make dinner that night.
I'm moving to the Bay Area next week, so I'm really curious about the varieties of hippiness I'll run into.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 28 June 2007 03:02 (sixteen years ago) link
-- scott seward, Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:13 PM
this is true! my short lived fop got stares.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2007 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link
idea of hippies = + actual experience with hippies = -
My girlfriend used to be a hippie, sort of. We went to Schwagstock together a few years, ostensibly for her to do a photo story, and god it SUCKED ASS, all of the time.
― Z S, Thursday, 28 June 2007 03:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm not sure what makes a hippie in 2007, but the originals were never big on philosophical consistancy or staunch adherance to a cause. They were very big on personal freedom. Avoiding hypocrisy, in the sense of whatever they did this minute being inconsistent with whatever idea they may have espoused a half hour ago wasn't seen as all that important. Freedom trumped everything. Freebies were mighty big, too.
― Aimless, Thursday, 28 June 2007 03:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, that's something I realize now. But as a kid in the early 90s immersing himself in the written history of the sixties, it was really easy to conflate the social progress achieved by grassroots groups with the new-agey acid-era crap espoused by Leary, etc.
I'd bet that a good portion of young hippie-types in the 90s were in it for this same reason.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 28 June 2007 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah I've lived in Asheville before, and can't wait to get back. Look forward to seeing the hippies, beats the conservative homogeneity of central TX. But I echo the sentiment so oft expressed here, hippies are better in theory than in practice/personal encounter. They can often seem so thick/hypocritical/smug/downright amoral/evil.
― wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 28 June 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
lol @ "they're not hippies, they're psychedelic post-mods!"
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 28 June 2007 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know if he's trying to compare hippies and beats but I see them as near opposites. I find beatnik rhetoric much more attractive than what I've come to recognize as hippie rhetoric.
― wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 28 June 2007 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link
there was a lot of crossover. the transition in san francisco from beat to hippie was smooth-ish.
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 28 June 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/68448_542354555790049_817769286_n.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
looks like the hippie got killed by some kind of greaser
― wk, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
"The Birth of Sha Na Na"
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link
worst hippie fashion atrocity has to be the across-the-forehead headband, as seen here in olivia newton-john's retro stylings:
Really hate that this is a trendy thing nowadays.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 11 October 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
yes, much hate that
― has important things to say about gangnam style (Hurting 2), Thursday, 11 October 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
Oh for real? That's totally classic.
― borscht and bikinis (how's life), Thursday, 11 October 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cktyTQe_Sv0/TDvnpBc-m5I/AAAAAAAAAYc/cx9CAJ8eQuQ/s640/william-rast-fall-fashion-beauty-hair-model-240sd02182010.jpg
― borscht and bikinis (how's life), Thursday, 11 October 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'm really starting to hate hippies, sorry.
― maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Monday, 16 June 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link
you need to get out of western mass then
― marcos, Monday, 16 June 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link
also i love the across-the-forehead headband
― marcos, Monday, 16 June 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link
Yeah...although this thought also occurred to me a few weeks ago when I was in Cali (Joshua Tree). They're everywhere!
― maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Monday, 16 June 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link
so apparently ken kesey's son is parking his dumb bus outside of my house all weekend :(
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 21 July 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
I'm trying to figure out which parts are figurative and which literal in your post, Jordan
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link
BTW Hippies are classic if only for coming up with the wonderful, mind-blowing yet oddly pragmatic mess that was the Whole Earth Catalog.
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
unfortunately my post is all too literal
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 21 July 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
thank kickstarter, OF COURSEhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/furthur50/furthur-bus-50th-anniversary-trip