US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

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Not sure how labeling a very real impeachment inquiry "so-called" is supposed to work in his favor.

White House strategy is to claim they don't have to cooperate with the inquiry because the House has not yet voted to open an inquiry.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

it's almost as if the party that couldn't successfully manage a governing majority in Congress doesn't actually understand how Congress works

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/after-clinton-spectacle-benghazi-panel-goes-back-behind-closed-doors/447768/

let's not forget the time the dems stormed into these closed door sessions

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

Lady Lindsay Demands Decorum!

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Wednesday rebuked the GOP congressman who stormed a closed-door hearing earlier in the day to protest the Democrats' impeachment inquiry protest, calling the act “nuts.”

“That’s not the way to do it,” Graham said of the GOP House members moves, according to a report by The Associated Press.

Dozens of Republican members of the House crashed, including some members of leadership like House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.), barged into the secure hearing room in the Capitol basement delaying the testimony of Laura Cooper, the deputy assistant secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

This is the most pernicious aspect of Trump's presidency imo. Not what he specifically gets away with but the extent to which his unbridled id begins to influence others to wantonly thwart norms like it's all some big goddamn joke.

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

This was interesting. And by interesting I mean terrifying.

A few words on why Gaetz stunt to storm the SCIF to disrupt Laura Cooper's deposition is a VERY serious national security problem.

Note, I worked in that SCIF for HPSCI and handled cybersecurity issues while there.

— Mieke Eoyang (@MiekeEoyang) October 23, 2019

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

no doubt Trump's ability to face no consequence whatsoever for his flagrant lawbreaking has rubbed off on other members of the GOP

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

Reminder: a young Navy sailor was prosecuted and convicted for taking photos in the classified areas of a submarine.@RepAlexMooney tried to livestream his entrance into a SCIF. https://t.co/MC1BuTrlgn

— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) October 23, 2019

REMEMBER SAILOR!!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

doopdedoo how long til this gets to the Supreme Court

The State Department must begin turning over documents related to the Trump administration's dealings with Ukraine within 30 days, a judge ruled Wednesday.

American Oversight, an ethics watchdog organization, filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the State Department in early October in an attempt to gain access to documents related to communications between President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and top State Department officials regarding Ukraine.

The group also requested records related to the recall of Marie Yovanovitch, the former ambassador to Ukraine.

U.S. District Judge Christopher Cooper ruled Wednesday that the records sought were of public importance and that the State Department needed to begin disclosing documents within 30 days, NBC New York reported. Cooper reportedly advised American Oversight to meet with the government to narrow the request.

“Despite the ongoing obstruction of Congress, the Trump administration will now have to start releasing records concerning its dealings with Ukraine," Austin Evers, executive director at American Oversight, said in a statement to The Hill.

"This is an important victory for the American people’s right to know the facts about Ukraine, and it is a major setback for the White House’s stonewalling. The court recognized the importance of these documents and the need for the State Department to rapidly release them, and American Oversight will continue fighting to make sure the truth comes out.”

The State Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

Your regular reminder that national security is a farce and Edward Snowden is a saint

Signed,

Glenn Greenwald (NOT A TRUMP GUY)

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

the very notion of a SCIF was invented by spy agencies - liberals who hold meetings in them are just untrustworthy hypocrites

signed

Matt Taibbi

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

Doug Henwood tweet

Signed

Morbs

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

going back to McConnell's current "defend the president on the process" tactic:

“The transcripts are all going to be released publicly, and there will be public hearings,” Lieu told us. “So all of these stupid process arguments that Republicans are making are going to go away.”

it's almost as if McConnell knows he has a weak hand and is just playing for time

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

oh Hucklepaws

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) walked back his earlier comments that called out a group of House Republicans for storming into a closed-door deposition that is part of the ongoing impeachment inquiry into President Trump on Wednesday.

Graham tweeted a “correction” saying that when he told reporters “that’s nuts” in response to his fellow Republican lawmakers’ actions, he had been misinformed on the nature of the disruption.

“I was initially told House GOP took the SCIF by force – basically like a GOP version of Occupy Wall Street,” Graham tweeted. “Apparently it was a peaceful protest. Big difference. I understand their frustration and they have good reason to be upset.”

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

Yes entering a building screaming while breaking laws = perfectly legal peaceful protest, good one

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link

I wonder if literally sending a squad of goons to disrupt an investigation counts as obstruction of justice? I wonder...

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

Could someone please subpoena Graham's phone records spanning the moments when he publicly veers from the party line until his inevitable retractions (which are in no way precipitated by someone reminding him about those photos that are still in that safe deposit box)?

If we don't someday learn that he has been deeply, deeeeeeply compromised by some foreign entity at least throughout the course Trump's presidency, I will quite literally eat my hat.

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

shouldn't these idiots' phones be confiscated by now

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link

Major league umpire Rob Drake tweeted “I will be buying an AR-15 tomorrow, because if you impeach MY PRESIDENT this way, YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER CIVAL WAR!!! #MAGA2020”, according to a copy of the tweet obtained by ESPN. MLB says it is aware of it. News: https://t.co/Qf7VMAXEoJ

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) October 23, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

MORAN!

DJI, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link

Get that man on the Supreme Court! It's all just balls 'n' strikes, right?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link

He later complained that his account was "hicked"

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

shouldn't the 2020 slogan be Make America Great Again, Again

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

it should be MAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGA

a la Billy Joel's "Movin' Out"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

An amusing bit:

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/23/trump-impeachment-offensive-conservative-056063

Miller said Republican lawmakers need to do a better job of strategically leaking information to the media from the behind-closed-doors testimony to build Republicans’ nothing-to-see-here argument. He alleges Democrats are leaking tidbits of information every day to drive news cycle favorable to them.

Which could also imply...there's nothing pro-Trump to leak.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

Notably, according to a list provided by Gaetz's office of the Republicans who RSVP'd to join the protest, 12 of them are members of the Oversight or Foreign Affairs committees — including Rep. Jim Jordan, the ranking member on the Oversight Committee — meaning they have been allowed to sit in on all depositions held in the SCIF in recent weeks.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

virtue signallers

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link

Hmm, of course.

Rudy Giuliani is looking for a defense attorney, sources sayhttps://t.co/qp8u1IA9RN

— Mike Warren (@MichaelRWarren) October 24, 2019

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 October 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link

but he's so good he can defend himself, no?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:01 (four years ago) link

Fool for a client etc.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link

He's so good he doesn't even *need* to defend himself.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link

I am not a lawyer but it seems pretty clear to me that if you are the president's lawyer you are allowed to commit crimes because executive privilege, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link

6) Fox is told there was never any chance mbrs who barged into SCIF would be arrested by USCP wBut some mbrs members asked to be arrested. They wanted the optic of being frog marched out of the SCIF in front of TV cameras. That would help w/GOP narrative of Dem process abuse

— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) October 24, 2019

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:44 (four years ago) link

Apparently our man Barry is supposed to speak at Cummings’ service so coverage of this could lead to the heart attack we’ve been hoping for

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 24 October 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link

dummy just said he's building a wall on the Colorado border

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 24 October 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link

It borders Second Mexico

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 October 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link

New Mexico gon' pay!

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 October 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link

2 Mexico

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 October 2019 03:24 (four years ago) link

2 Furious

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 24 October 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link

missed this detail earlier

In fact, Mr. Trump is said to have given them a thumbs-up the day before. On Tuesday, he “met with about 30 House Republicans at the White House to talk about the situation in Syria and the impeachment inquiry,” at which time the members “shared their plans to storm into the secure room,” Bloomberg News reported. Mr. Trump told them he thought it was a good idea.

trump + these thirty are going to be like the alamo only if you weren't sure how to reload the guns

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 24 October 2019 04:43 (four years ago) link

I guess statement you could say with tweet. He made a tweet. The tweet is perfect:

(Kiddingly) We’re building a Wall in Colorado”(then stated, “we’re not building a Wall in Kansas but they get the benefit of the Wall we’re building on the Border”) refered to people in the very packed auditorium, from Colorado & Kansas, getting the benefit of the Border Wall!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 24, 2019

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Thursday, 24 October 2019 06:58 (four years ago) link

*curb your enthusiasm music plays *

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 October 2019 08:20 (four years ago) link

how surprising that his clarification makes less sense than the original statement

akm, Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link

I'm glad he cleared it up for us, he's got my vote back.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link

He said this in Pennsylvania, right? How many people from Colorado and Kansas were there?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

I don't know why it's so hard for us to tell when President Ragestroke is just kidding around. It must be so exhausting for him to have to explain all of his flights of whimsy after the fact.

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link

I know it gets said a lot but just lmao that people are basing their entire personality around this guy and alienating all their friends

frogbs, Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

if they're alienated then they weren't really your friends

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link

growing up in the south, everyone i knew HATED donald trump as the perfect embodiment of what a rich, crass, shitty yankee was; i gotta believe that regional division still burns bright in their heart if someone can just give it a little push
oh that warren had a southern accent

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

semi xpost:

I know he theoretically has 99% support among Republicans, but I wonder if by the end he'll have alienated enough people that next November instead of talking about "Reagan Democrats" political reporters will have to start talking about "Warren [or Biden, or Sanders] Republicans."

Ah, who am I kidding? Political reporters never give up their treasured mythological frameworks. And yes, Morbius, we all know Warren used to be a Republican. Save it.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link


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