I, too, am whooping and hollering
― mh, Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
the obsession with this conspiracy among the right wing is unbelivable to me. I peek in on my insane trump loving family's FB feeds and they're still posting about this every day.
― akm, Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
Lefties are too
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
For diff reasons
― akm, Sunday, November 3, 2019 5:23 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
The funny/sad part is that a good chunk of these people think Trump is secretly fighting the pedo cabal. Real pudding-brain shit
― Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 November 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
I mean, everyone thinking he was whacked thinks it was to keep him silent about sexual exploitation and the dirt he’d have on some sort of cabalwhether he was also a cia asset, not sure if that’s a universally gossiped-about part
― mh, Sunday, 3 November 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
the cia has been involved in so much deeply shady, stupid shit that practically anything you accuse them of doing will have an air of probability. some of their confirmed operations have been completely Poe's Law stuff, beyond self-parody.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 3 November 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
"epstein didn't kill himself" gonna be the new baba booey huh
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
More like the "how is babby formed"
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
how is class solidarity formed
― non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/60jObXF.jpg
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
and there it is
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link
So this just happened live on @MSNBC at the Alabama - LSU game. 😂Reporter: Why do you like the President so much and what policies stand out to you?Student "Parker Savage": Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself. *takes off Trump pin and drops it on ground* pic.twitter.com/xTZtjpMfQ5— Midnite Mogwai (@midnitemogwai) November 9, 2019
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link
I appreciate how this is becoming a new type of rickroll.
― Yerac, Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link
a plurality of ilxors think he was murdered. a clear majority thinks he either was murdered, or was given the means to kill himself.
ILXORS! not a man on the street thing. the cream of the crop.
folks
― treeship., Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link
the only way this shit cld get shadier is if there were video of a shadowy figure creeping away from the scene
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:14 (four years ago) link
that clip is pretty good
― Dan S, Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:14 (four years ago) link
what is shadier than the death is that "sweetheart" deal he got in 08, when he was basically allowed to go home from prison during the day and molest people. and the prosecutor (acosta) said he was told "epstein belongs to intelligence."
it seems absurd we won't get to the bottom of this, when there is so much public awareness
― treeship., Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:20 (four years ago) link
the whole thing cldnt be more insanely "you have got to be joking me"
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
has bernie promised to investigate this shit yet
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
the prosecutor (acosta) said he was told "epstein belongs to intelligence."
holy shit
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link
oh you didn't know this?
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/i-was-told-epstein-belonged-to-intelligence-and-to-leave-it-alone
really insane
― treeship., Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:47 (four years ago) link
huh, somehow i missed that -- and this came out even before his death. i don't even know what to make of that.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 10 November 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link
i don't think it's absurd to speculate he was running a blackmail ring. and that "intelligence" caught wind of it and used it for their purposes--leaning on powerful people they needed favors for.
― treeship., Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
there isn't really a good explanation for why people started letting him manage their money in the first place. he started his fund with the provision that investors needed to put up, at minimum, a billion dollars--this is when he was relatively unknown. and he found investors.
― treeship., Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:02 (four years ago) link
its seems completely reasonable given the known facts of the case
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:02 (four years ago) link
tho i doubt ppl were actual giving him a billion at a time
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:03 (four years ago) link
the details of his business are still really opaque. that's the legend at least.
― treeship., Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:05 (four years ago) link
It feels like there are two versions of the Epstein meme. The serious version that lefties and righties alike are sharing because they want it investigated.
And then the RickRoll version which is apolitical and played for shits and giggles
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
it was his marketing but i bet he was taking in much smaller amounts, not many ppl have a billion dollars just to throw around not even billionaires, tho obvs much smaller amounts than a billion can still be huge piles of money, one theory i read was that given reports that no one really did any deals w him is he was just putting the money in index funds thereby actually generating dece returns for his investors, maybe sort of a soft blackmail, or for a lot of them not really blackmail at all, more of a prostitution ring
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:10 (four years ago) link
tho more than that like he was offering access to a lifestyle that these guys thought they shd be living, hes one of them not some pimp or whatever except hes doing it like in the movies young girls all around him
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:18 (four years ago) link
which is not to say he didnt make tapes or just generally know incriminating things but as long as everyone was cool it was all blase blah
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link
my read
and im sure most of the guys he mingled with never did anything w the girls, but they knew they were available if they wanted
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link
like some of the shit thats come out with bill gates he seemed interested in how epstein was living but i bet hes cautious as heck and prob actually wld never fuck w anything like that but he was still curious to check out the scene
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:28 (four years ago) link
https://nypost.com/2019/11/08/epstein-didnt-kill-himself-printed-on-california-brewerys-beer-cans/
― treeship., Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:51 (four years ago) link
the thing abt this turning into a meme is i think almost everyone joking around about it also believes it to be shady as shit, because it just so obviously is
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link
It seems implausible that Epstein and Maxwell weren’t part of an intelligence operation. There are a number of different rabbit holes around the Maxwell family, not just Robert and Ghislaine.
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link
yeah
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:24 (four years ago) link
epstein did 9/11
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:26 (four years ago) link
the thing about this compared to every conspiracy theory ever it is requires no fake goofy bullshit to glue it together, theres no jet fuel cant melt steel beams or the illuminati required, the screw loose change of epstein is the new york times
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:04 (four years ago) link
theres an extensive public record of bill clinton risking it all for sex w young girls
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link
the thing abt this turning into a meme is i think almost everyone joking around about it also believes it to be shady as shit, because it just so obviously iscosine. the rickrolling is only happening because it's basically all we've got left. Most of the people who believe it was murder don't have any faith that the continuing investigation into the pedo ring will be legit and there's nothing we can do about it. It's just this absurd obvious thing that we'll be told to forget about until we eventually do and the only recourse left is to turn it into a punchline, hoping the meme will catch fire and keep enough spotlight on the case as it unfolds that it'll (maybe?) be harder for Ghislaine to slip on a banana peel in her cell or whatever.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link
it seems to be kinda working lol
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:28 (four years ago) link
My alma mater's town is trying to name a new bridge "Epstein Didn't Kill Himself Bridge" pic.twitter.com/t1mSJFK9Iw— josh (@josh_fbi) November 9, 2019
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:31 (four years ago) link
Jeffrey McEpstein Didn't Kill Himself BridgeFace
― StanM, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:53 (four years ago) link
I have no idea how to evaluate it. I’ve experienced someone killing themselves while on suicide watch in a psychiatric hospital, and prisons are worse at mental health care than that.
So weighing up the odds that a man facing prison for child abuse kills himself against the idea that people in power may have had interests in killing him etc.
I’m not sure that the suicide story doesn’t hold the balance of probabilities.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 10 November 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link
after he’d been sentenced... maybe before sentencing, when he was spending his time out of his cell with ladies that his lawyers were bringing in for him every day... naw
― Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 10 November 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link
If there were things he didn’t want to come out during the trial, things which would be widely reported, I can see why he would kill himself beforehand - especially if he was confident he would be found guilty.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 10 November 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link
The main problem is the weighing the suicide against the unknown - how often do people get killed to keep them quiet. I have no idea, and it may be the case. I just find it odd that people are weighing it so easily.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 10 November 2019 09:27 (four years ago) link