like the guy fawkes masks: can't people be more original?
― akm, Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
you know, like in the film
― Graham Kendrick Lamar (cajunsunday), Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link
Cool, can't wait til they imitate the other shit
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
My house didn't need to be not on fire
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
I might be the only one who remembers this but one thousand years ago just before this film came out there was a moral panic about how it was foretold that its release would cause the trenchcoat mafia to rise from their graves and bring about the end times
― YouGov to see it (wins), Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
It did, they all voted for Trump in 16
#trenchant
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/03/world/joker-global-protests-trnd/index.htmlfucking try harder, protestors. jesus, lame.― akm, Sunday, November 3, 2019 1:12 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
fucking try harder, protestors. jesus, lame.
― akm, Sunday, November 3, 2019 1:12 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
solidarity forever, unless the cultural reference is kinda dorky
― gbx, Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
Expected to hate this, and while I did hate a couple of parts, overall it was worth the time. The final sit-down on De Niro's show was ridiculous, and De Niro and the whole subplot around him--I realize that there's an extended King of Comedy tribute going on--should have been ditched. Phoenix's first laughing fit felt unbearably overwrought, but I adjusted as the film went on. The rest I liked. The scene with the Wall St. guys on the subway was tense and unsettling. When Phoenix isn't laughing, he's very good. Has the score been debated much? I thought it was weird and often great--someone else might find it oppressive. The two famous pop songs...I suspect only I would love those scenes or even feel it worth commenting on them.
I have a few extremely basic questions as to how (or if) the story here jibes with the Burton and Nolan films on a timeline, but I'm just a novice, so I'll look up the answers myself.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link
It doesn't
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link
the pop stuff is maybe meant to be jarring but didn’t quite jive for methe score is obviously great, good composer!
― mh, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-men-who-still-love-fight-club
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link
I used to rewatch Fight Club a lot and it’s fine but, overall, worse at gauging it’s audience’s ability to read between the large print lines than anything Scorsese ever did. It’s very pretty. I get the fantasy of looking (but not smelling) like Pitt’s character, and Jared Leto gets beat up. Helena Bonham Carter is attractive. Zeroing out credit debt is cool but doesn’t work like that, although buildings collapsing is shocking. In the end, the fuck-up seems to acknowledge a middle ground, although it’s the last thirty seconds.
― mh, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
The first sign that “Fight Club” might inspire men to do anything other than quote “Fight Club” on their Facebook walls came in the mid-two-thousands...
Can I just
― ☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link
https://www.indiewire.com/video/todd-phillips-cut-zazie-beetz-joker-scene-fate-1202187212/
― I'm scared my but won't fit in it. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link
Recently, when I checked out Palahniuk’s novel from my local library, the librarian, a woman in her thirties, visibly struggled to hide her displeasure
the correct response, shoutout to this librarian
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
you know, I really enjoyed Lullaby but that's mostly because I've long harbored the fantasy of being able to murder people with my mind
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
Palahniuk's not a horrible writer, but he's a one-trick pony and iirc has expressed some alt-right/libertarian leanings, although maybe that's just part of his edginess shtick
― mh, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
"I have a few extremely basic questions as to how (or if) the story here jibes with the Burton and Nolan films on a timeline, but I'm just a novice, so I'll look up the answers myself." Yes it has nothing to do with those films. And I'm hjoping it doesn't have a sequel.
Frankly I kind of like this approach that DC may be taking with their characters; they dont' really need to build a universe, it wasn't working anyway. You can use these characters and do one off movies. It's really ok.
― akm, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link
Fight Club is a fine novel and also a good film. I have to ignore any cult that has sprung up around it because like all of these things, it seems to me that people who do that aren't really getting the point (see: using Joker masks in big protests).
― akm, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link
Can't wait for the Supes movie where he's 48 and doesn't know he has super powers and works as an insurance adjuster with manager Lenny Luthor.
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
sounds like a significant improvement on visionary director zack snyder's take on the character tbf
― Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
― akm, Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:34 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Another way to say it is that DC has moved in this direction not so much as a conscious, strategic choice but because their attempts to ape the MCU model have been inept af.
― I'm scared my but won't fit in it. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link
people wearing Joker masks isn't missing the point, it *is* the point depending on the protest- he only really loses it when he loses his social security
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
A senior White House official confirmed to Yahoo News that Trump screened 'Joker' for guests including “family, friends, and some staff.” The senior official said Trump liked the film https://t.co/w7KEGfQEl4 by @hunterw, @BrettRedacted pic.twitter.com/bQfnnViBoC— Yahoo News (@YahooNews) November 17, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 November 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link
the oval office insider went on to claim that trump's chest pains were 'almost certainly' caused by the movie's twisted take on the iconic character
― actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 November 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
i guess you could say the joker played... THE TRUMP CARD! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHEHHEHEHEHEEE IT'S THE JOKER!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 18 November 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link
There’s no possible way that guy can sit and watch a whole movie
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 18 November 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link
Au contraire, he's had a toilet installed front and center in the WH screening room, so
― Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 November 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
The "toilet" being whichever of his family members he's angry at at that particular moment.
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 November 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link
hope you guys who bought tickets are looking forward to LEX in 2020, Captain Cold in 21 and grim-and-gritty Jonni DC in 22https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joker-sequel-works-as-todd-phillips-eyes-more-dc-origin-movies-1256255
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
Fingers crossed for Crazy Quilt
― Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
Calling it now: minimum of two Oscar nods.
― Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Monday, October 7, 2019 1:06 PM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink
TBH, this power of mine is more curse than blessing.
― Pizza is Really Yummy for Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 January 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
Joaq deserves a nom, BP for sure tooGerwig got robbed for director
― flappy bird, Monday, 13 January 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link
Just saw this. I think it had too many memes & thinkpieces in front of it for it to have any impact. It wasn't bad, in the sense of being badly made, but it seemed pretty pointless and if it was meant to be entertaining the only sense of entertainment I could liken it to is a horror movie where you're just like "ugh oh god ok I guess" the whole time. If it was supposed to be about the Joker, from a Comic Book Guy perspective it was a whiff since this Joker wasn't clever or even mischievous, just a witless psychopath from beginning to end. Really repetitive and no ending to speak of. Had I not been trying to see all the Oscar nominees I would have been fine to give this a miss.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:13 (four years ago) link
It wasn't directed.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link
Yeah it's the usual reading things that Phillips wasn't actually intelligent enough to willfully put in there.
they seemed to want to use a TV-length character arc in a two hour feature film which just doesn't work. even in the train scene, he quickly pivots from killing a guy in what might questionably be self-defense, before immediately committing murder, including pursuing a guy at Usain Bolt speeds and shooting him in the back. Might have been a little more effective if he'd only killed one guy, in self defense, as that's quite a leap.
the movement also made no sense. yes, movements sprout up all the time, but a bunch of clowns assembled and grew in numbers and began holding demonstrations due to what they could only *assume* were Arthur's motives. it was some Life of Brian shit. usually those type of movements need some form of charismatic leadership to grow at the rate the Clowns in Training did in a short time. it quickly goes from a handful of doofuses in masks to hundreds of people basically rioting in downtown Gotham.
he's a demagogue who hasn't even addressed his congregation until he goes on TV and blows DeNiro's face off and suddenly it's war in the streets.
xpost lol
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link
With some time to process it, I pretty much agree with you Sparkle Motion, but I had a more negative opinion right after watching it given every one of my friends raved about it
― Vinnie, Monday, 10 February 2020 01:30 (four years ago) link
the only real themes in the movie were "people are nasty to each other, including me, and that's why I snapped", which is...not very interesting, nor did it make sense, since fairly obviously, it wasn't society's cruelty, it was his own neglectful/abusive mother and her equally abusive boyfriend who were more to blame for his plight. his entire neurological condition came from a beating he suffered at their hands!
this is just a comic book movie, so no it doesn't require these heavy themes, but if yr gonna pretend you're 'transcending' the genre, you might wanna put on a harness first.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:30 (four years ago) link
I was in the Philippines where it was a half day ahead so I got to see it before all of my friends, which I was glad to do.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:31 (four years ago) link
in retrospect it may not have been written either
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:31 (four years ago) link
it is getting the defense that the shitty Zombie Halloween got - "it's a character study". Sure...a bad one.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:32 (four years ago) link
I didn't even hate the movie either, but I could barely stomach the ending. not with what's going on now across the globe.
I finally got around to watching this, I had very low expectations but eh it was ok, a solid 6/10, slightly better than Fight Club.
Surprised that it reminded me of Requiem For A Dream in a few ways.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
for all the Taxi Driver comparisons (I saw the latter a couple weeks ago for the first time in awhile), Joker is just a movie that doesn't hit any of the same notes except that it's a psychotic dude in a run-down NYC (-type) city. the creeping paranoia and dread and single-minded focus and the way in which Travis talks *around* his troubles w/other people and doesn't explain them overtly, just hints at them and occasionally lashes out briefly before collecting himself...it all seems very real, in the sense that despite his journey to the end of the film, it also reads like a consistently inconsistent way of life without an easy narrative. Even considering the heightened comic book drama of this type of film it just reads as false and also a fairly unsympathetic reading of mental illness.
― omar little, Monday, 10 February 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
not a fan of misery porn but this was fine as a heavy duty pastiche of the lone wolf psycho genesis using our guy
why it had to be the joker idk
didnt deserve any of the weight either the director or the thinkpieces demand of it
phoenix is good
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
otm
― mh, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link
I watched it expecting it to be terrible, was pleasantly surprised. my wife watched it expecting it to be good, was disappointed.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link
that seems fair!
the scorsese ripoff stuff does nobody much justice, but i saw as much shyamalan in the actual direction as i did anything
interesting little effort and i hope that the writer/director hear me say it and are outraged tbh
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link
i laughed real hard at the funny parts and i feel like nobody focuses on those in their thinkpieces
― Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link
thinkpieces dont believe anyone can laugh anymore u monster
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link