Lads, it's the Premier League thread - EPL 2019/20

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If only we'd acquired a fast, skillful, goal-scoring attacking midfielder in the summer...

Swapping Eriksen for Lo Celso in the Crvena Zvezda game might make sense.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Monday, 4 November 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

It seems true that Vertonghen and Alderweireld have looked off the pace this season - as against Bayern.

But ... it is only a few months since Vertonghen was fans' player of the year; he was immense last season. Hard to see that both players can have lost it so fast.

Yes, age is a factor, but players also come in and out of form. THFC will have one or more good spells during the rest of this season and will reach the top 6 or so that way. Some players like Vertonghen or even the widely suspected Eriksen will look good again. And if you don't like the Belgians we have one or more other centre-backs.

People say Ndombele is good? Maybe he will show it.

Kane was out ill yesterday, would also have made a difference.

There may be call for careful and judicious upgrades and rejuvenation (even the new GK might be that), but there is no need to panic. Eventually this team will look good again.

the pinefox, Monday, 4 November 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

PS Vertonghen last season: remember him at left-back vs Dortmund at Wembley?

the pinefox, Monday, 4 November 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

We have needed better forward back-up for years - that's not new at all - but at least we now have two top strikers, not 1.5 - as well as Moura who has shown he can be a hero on his day.

Still unsure if a lad from the reserves can come through on that front, as we'd want.

the pinefox, Monday, 4 November 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

Top 4 sounds tough - as well as important.

We're clearly behind LFC, MCFC, and, I'm afraid, CFC.

But ... if I were MUFC, AFC or even, yes, Leicester City, I wouldn't be entirely confident of finishing above us.

I don't think Wolves, Everton, West Ham, Bournemouth will do that either.

We could finish 4th above all that lot.

the pinefox, Monday, 4 November 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

Leicester are really playing like the 3rd best team in the League right now. A couple of injuries could screw them though. I doubt theres much depth in the squad.

The World According To.... (Michael B), Monday, 4 November 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

Said at the start of the season I'll be more than happy if Wolves finish top half, especially if we make the Europa knockouts

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 November 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

Agree with Michael B.

Always thought THFC should sign Maddison from Norwich, before anyone else did -- with the proviso that I don't like doing things that hurt Norwich.

Wolves I would think finish 10th or higher.

the pinefox, Monday, 4 November 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

Leicester never seem to get long-term injuries, particularly to key players. God knows how they manage it.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 November 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

Ah, every Spurs fan's favourite conspiracy theory

imago, Monday, 4 November 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

notwithstanding how good a partnership vertonghen/alderweireld have been in a two, this season from the off the former has looked a lot more than a yard short of pace- quite an alarming decline.

given his quality on the ball and in delivery, left back ahead of rose wouldnt be the worst thing in the world (pace used only to get away from your defensive duties doesnt seem to me any great boon) but unfortunately sanchez has been bumpy of late also, and foyth (as discussed with matt, i think) is more....intriguing....than reliable

none of which, im afraid, suggests to me that vertonghen looks like recovering that pace/reaction time that we so badly beed in our centre halves due to seemingly every attack leaving us one on one at the back.

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

Ah, every Spurs fan's favourite conspiracy theory

IIRC the foremost proponents of that theory round here were Liverpool fans...

Matt DC, Monday, 4 November 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

That's true tbf

imago, Monday, 4 November 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

Yep

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

that was just me in a perm and moustache sorry lads

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

People discussing THFC, including me, are forgetting ...

SESSEGNON.

!!!!!!!!!

the pinefox, Monday, 4 November 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

i wouldn't want any other manager than poch coaching the players poch wont pick

^ my actual position, maybe ^

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

ah I've missed the Spurs thread

Back with a vengeance.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ยฃ5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

thread pochmarked

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

anyways more than a hint of avb about him these days, which is rotten to see

โ€• deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, November 4, 2019 12:56 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

you summoned him here and this is very otm imo. Poch will prob land on his feet better than avb did post-Spurs, but right now he seems infected with the same career killing virus of nihilism (problably not but def boredom of the most irritating kind). Don't know what the incubation time is but best for both Poch and Spurs for him to leave asap imo

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 November 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

don't understand why Chelsea are still contesting the transfer ban when every BBC pundit has already made it clear they are the best football team that has ever existed

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

Really only feel like one Wolves VAR decision was actually wrong tho.i realize the article is just looking at the quantity

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

yeah i can't say i feel particularly aggrieved, the change in interpretation of handball isn't specifically caused by VAR, and most of my objections to it aren't about whether it gets decisions "right" or not. think Villa have been robbed a couple of times tho.

Joe Kulak ๐Ÿ˜Ž (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

Yep

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

kabasele with maybe the actual stupidest red of the season there

imago, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

sloppy, passing from back risky and awful, slow to move the ball, kane not in it

but way better than it has been

green shoots

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

Ah, every Spurs fan's favourite conspiracy theory

โ€• imago, Monday, 4 November 2019 17:17 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

disqualify leicester from the 15/16 season and arsenal pipped spurs to the title on the last day of the season lol

Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 9 November 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

(xp) Does he score?

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 November 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

he might

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

ok its awful since start of second half.

hate to actually say desire but our defence is ambling away from the ball and any tackle

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

cruel on them, that

looked off to me

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

the defender passed it to him

Number None, Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

unbelievable

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

gone to a very tedious var that should never come into it tbh

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link

Wow. This is really stupid. What a dumb rule.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

thats a fucking joke

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

nothing short of theft this

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

a shambles and a disgrace

Number None, Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

can we do the FA for bringing football into disrepute?

Joe Kulak ๐Ÿ˜Ž (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

While Iโ€™m here, itโ€™s also stupid they wonโ€™t stop the clock for reviews and injuries. Technology exists to accurately track time. Pretending itโ€™s the 1800s and you donโ€™t have a digital clock is idiotic.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

keeping dier on is a disrepute charge

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

i've got a fiver on him getting sent off

this game could be salvaged yet

Number None, Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

tbf though, it's pretty similar to Aurier's 'goal' against Leicester where we would have gone two up.

groovypanda, Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

true, im railing against the idiocy, not the karmic distribution

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

horrible horrible horrible defensive system, who the fuck is responsible for the wings

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

poch has to go

hes just not interested in fixing this shit

deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

I'll take that

Number None, Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

finally kids can live out the dream of experiencing down to the centimeter offside calls

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link


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