Netflix Watch Instantly Recommendation Thread

to exapnd slightly, I felt that the filmmakers were perhaps more invested in the beauty of this thing, as a film, than in communicating the story fully.

exactly, there is a lot hinted at about the mother, her rich and famous friends...who the fuck were these people?

re: wanting to know more: did they talk together about the initial experiences with the mother? did they talk about their separate experiences together once the other one had come back from a night away? it left me with many questions.

post-apocalyptic Ferris Bueller got progressively less fun

It's a very traumatic doc. If I had another problem with it, it's that it's, frankly, too stylish, too beautiful to look at etc.

Yes agree about this point. It was distractingly pretty and that felt weird to me. I also wondered who the f mom’s “friends” were. Not because I wanted to hear from them but like friends? Friends don’t want what she was offering.

this is something i have witnessed developing (i'm not saying i'm the only one to have noticed it by any means) (and i have been involved with people who make films and have worked on them) but there are a lot of directors in film and performance who are incredibly technically adept and know how to make something beautiful looking or beautiful feeling but have no idea how to engage with narrative, or specifically with acting/actors (if they are making fictional films). they have no connection or experience with e.g. rehearsal and getting the performance right before you hit go on the project. I know this isn't fictional but i do feel that a film like this is evidence of that, in a weird way. it's a shame to be honest. the film deserved someone who was more interested in the story than the aesthetic. someone who could really drill down into the matter at hand.

it's not like Ken Loach, for example, would care about how lovely his film looked. they can't all be ken loach but shouldn't all NOT BE Ken Loach. For many it's opportunistic: that this story enables me to make the lovely film i want to make.

that's a huge sidetrack

but, basically, I feel that young filmmakers want to make mood pieces and will latch on to subjects than enable them to make them.

well said

Jed otm about tell me who i am. It isn’t so much that I wanted to know more. But the doc felt disjointed (?). The style didn’t mesh with the content (if that makes any sense.)

I didn't find this to be a good-looking doc at all...the reenactments looked to me like they just ran some filters on the same kind of shots A&E or whatever uses for true-crime. The rhythm of the thing was tedious too, just dumb-dumb-dumbing metronomically from one revelation to the next, no sense for the beat

I stopped abt halfway in despite wanting to know what happened!

Only just started it, but the music supervision on The End of the F***ing World is still great anyway

I didn't think season 2 (end of F;ing World) could go anywhere but it really did. I liked it.

I also liked Let It Snow. It was much better than the netflix xmas prince or city person figuring life out in the country movies that are super popular. Kind of a Gilmore Girls/Love Actually vibe. And a Waterboys song features.

My kids were watching that yesterday and the music choices seemed really good. Georgia, Chemical Brothers and Washed Out too.

Jed otm about the apparent current focus on aesthetics over storytelling. On my FB post production related feeds there's always constant swooning over this and that cinematographer being attached to a project or how - yeah, the film wasn't that good but the cinematography "killed". Yeesh.
Is there a correlation between that and the fact that most of these people are very young and seemingly share a pantheon of (not-cinematographers)Kubrick:Tarkovsky:Nolan:Villeneuve?

Also the availability of drones for dramatic swooping aerial shots. That wasn’t possible 20 years ago.

Kubrick:Tarkovsky:Nolan:Villeneuve

one of these things is not like the other

I'd say "none"!

I can definitely see the crossover between Kubrick, Nolan and Villeneuve fanboys

I find it hard to believe they're out there stanning for Mirror though

Yeah it’s weird that the way a film looks and feels is a big part of what people like about this visual medium.

“Storytelling” is fairly far down on the list as far as things I give a shit about in film.

really! it's certainly in my top five! i can deal with non-narrative or fumbly narrative film but if you can't connect the dots to make an interesting story you damn well better sparkle in other ways.

It isn’t unnecessary! I’m just thinking about most of my favorite films (like The Mirror mentioned right up there) and a good ripping plot is absolutely not a factor in what makes them great.

it's still good storytelling though

i think the basically similar storytelling template of so many streaming era TV shows (even well-reviewed ones) is probably one reason i responded so strongly to Too Old To Die Young, which was primarily a largely plotless (after the story was set in motion it just drifted off with the current) visually and musically lush 900 minute ode to the seamier and emptier side of L.A. and some vv reprehensible people who occupy it. it was almost pure symbolism and metaphor by the end, so light on plot it could have been told in a midtempo-paced 110 min film.

ulysses, are you locked out of your TVchaos account? If so you have to look for them on facebook and send them a message with your email address and username and they'll give you a new passowrd.

I know it's my own fault but I think whether young filmmakers want to make mood pieces without caring about the subject (and they clearly do and clearly don't) is not a particularly interesting direction for this thread to go in. Where you place narrative or storytelling on a hierarchy is, I'm sure, interesting to someone somewhere but please take it elsewhere.

Feel free to make a thread about it if you want to.

On my FB post production related feeds there's always constant swooning over this and that cinematographer being attached to a project or how - yeah, the film wasn't that good but the cinematography "killed". Yeesh.

This is the least-new phenomenon in film history.

I was going to say, even by the time I got into film-as-film, Christopher Doyle stans were prevalent

The very first film was just images of trains and waves, and it wasn't really because of the narrative that people went back. So yeah, it's the oldest idea in the book.

https://deadline.com/2019/11/netflix-first-look-at-second-season-of-brit-com-sex-education-1202782762/

There's like this whole subset of crime-/murder-centric programming that my gf watches which basically serves as a background soundtrack to me doing other things. I'm as surprised as anyone that the show which increasingly caught my attention to the point where I'm now full-on watching it alongside her (and am now possibly more interested in than her) is How To Get Away With Murder. I mean, it's thoroughly ludicrous but also super addictive? It's basically a comic book, like some early-2000s cult favorite Vertigo crime title. And I'm pretty on board with the general theme of 'absolutely everyone involved in the American criminal justice system is or eventually mutates into an indefensible sociopath'. We've blasted through most of three seasons in no time so I guess I'm in for the long haul.

jed, i AM in fact. they're no longer allowing manual updates according to their new facebook post but maybe they're fixing the issue now?

look at the fb post dated nov 3rd.

yah but this morning's post includes the phrase "I am not doing manual resets ever again!!!!!"

ah i see! ok

3 eps in and really digging season 2 of End of the World but... is it just me or is there just So Much Soundtrack (tbf very well-curated so not mad about it)

I watched the first episode of that Charli XCX show and...well, I will watch the rest of it.

3 eps in and really digging season 2 of End of the World but... is it just me or is there just So Much Soundtrack (tbf very well-curated so not mad about it)

dolemite is my name is awesome. i kept expecting rico to turn up and ask for a slightly bigger cut than the $10 moore gave him in the alley. he would have been justified in asking for it!

s2 of the end of the fucking world is good, love both actors, but i agree, it really is more of a tone poem of cool songs than a coherent series this time around.

very happy to hear the excellent use of Scott Walkers the Sood Mans Back Again.

I haven't heard this version.

It’s great, it’s on Scott Sore.

will check it out! :)

Is Echo in the Canyon any good?

I've heard ... not really. My buddy told me of course there is some good stuff, but there is also a lot of Jakob Dylan or Fiona Apple performing songs of the era, which sounds unnecessary to me.

My buddy's other complaint was that it painted a really incomplete picture of that scene in service of the scene the makers wanted it to be. For example (and my friend is no fan of these two) there is apparently no really mention of Frank Zappa or Jim Morrison, both Canyon mainstays. I'll probably put it on when I'm assembling furniture or something.

no it's disappointing. first off, the covers as performed are across the board quite poor and just make you want to hear the originals. And yeah, it's really incomplete. There's a great story that exists about this period of music and these musicians but this really only brushes the surface.

the best part comes at the end during the credits when Neil Young shows up out of the blue and freaks out on guitar.

Ok, glad I asked, it didn't look great, but I was still intrigued

Felt more like an EPK for Jakob Dylan and his pals than anything.